Re: [Apple-Crop] Soil Anchors

[George Greene]

David and All:

I remember someone burying 5 foot pieces of telephone poles, cross-wise, 
perhaps 3-5 feet deep at the end of a row.  Most of the trellises I built in 
Biglerville PA survived.

I did have a Geneva Double-Curtin grape trellis fail when, after a big wind 
storm flipped up one side of the Double-Curtin grape trellis, the terrific 
imbalance caused the posts to snap off.

Come on where are all of the experts like Jon Clements or others who are the 
experts.  I thought that one (or by now several) states had Extension Bulletins 
on this subject.

Be well, George

> On Mar 31, 2017, at 2:04 PM, David Kollas  wrote:
> 
>   Kurt and Mo:
> 
>   Thank you for your comments.
> 
>   If pull-out is the reason for discarding the Duckbill anchoring 
> method, I wonder if a larger model would
> overcome that.  The largest Duckbill model is about 12 inches long.  A second 
> line of “duckbills”, also by Foresight 
> Products, is called Manta Ray, and is made for increased resistance, 
> installed with hydraulic jackhammer.  There 
> are also options for stoney soils  (ductile iron, hot-dipped in zinc, rather 
> than the standard aluminum).  However,
> searches of company websites, and telephone contacts, have been short on 
> pertinent,applicable value in my recent 
> efforts.
>   
>The thought of trying to put auger-type anchors in my stony land 
> does not appeal to me, and driving
> posts has never attracted me either.  Channel iron does seem worth  trying, 
> but I am hoping to find something
> I could get really excited about.
> 
> David
> Kollas Orchard, CT
> 
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Re: [Apple-Crop] Soil Anchors

[Hugh Thomas]

David,
I use these, and they work great. I have no idea how they would work in
your situation:
http://www.wilsonirr.com/ecommerce/trellis/anchoring/screw-anc-36-hvy-8-disc-hv-rod.php


You screw them into the ground using a tool that mounts on a 3 point auger
rig:
http://www.wilsonirr.com/ecommerce/trellis/anchoring/anchor-insert-tool-2-3-4-x-5-3.php

On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:04 PM, David Kollas  wrote:

> Kurt and Mo:
>
> Thank you for your comments.
>
> If pull-out is the reason for discarding the Duckbill
> anchoring method, I wonder if a larger model would
> overcome that.  The largest Duckbill model is about 12 inches long.  A
> second line of “duckbills”, also by Foresight
> Products, is called Manta Ray, and is made for increased resistance,
> installed with hydraulic jackhammer.  There
> are also options for stoney soils  (ductile iron, hot-dipped in zinc,
> rather than the standard aluminum).  However,
> searches of company websites, and telephone contacts, have been short on
> pertinent,applicable value in my recent
> efforts.
>
>  The thought of trying to put auger-type anchors in my stony
> land does not appeal to me, and driving
> posts has never attracted me either.  Channel iron does seem worth
> trying, but I am hoping to find something
> I could get really excited about.
>
> David
> Kollas Orchard, CT
>
>
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[Apple-Crop] Serenade

[Arthur Kelly]

Does anyone have any experience with Serenade for brown rot?

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Re: [Apple-Crop] Soil Anchors

[David Gleason]

This year at the Washington Hort Meetings and at the IFTA, Mark De Kleine gave 
presentations on trellis building and structural integrity for support systems.
Check out this article: 
http://www.growingproduce.com/fruits/apples-pears/dont-underestimate-the-importance-of-a-solid-foundation-in-your-orchard/

Dave Gleason
Superfreshgrowers.com
Yakima, WA


On March 31, 2017, at 11:05 AM, David Kollas  wrote:

Kurt and Mo:

Thank you for your comments.

If pull-out is the reason for discarding the Duckbill anchoring 
method, I wonder if a larger model would
overcome that.  The largest Duckbill model is about 12 inches long.  A second 
line of “duckbills”, also by Foresight 
Products, is called Manta Ray, and is made for increased resistance, installed 
with hydraulic jackhammer.  There 
are also options for stoney soils  (ductile iron, hot-dipped in zinc, rather 
than the standard aluminum).  However,
searches of company websites, and telephone contacts, have been short on 
pertinent,applicable value in my recent 
efforts.

 The thought of trying to put auger-type anchors in my stony land 
does not appeal to me, and driving
posts has never attracted me either.  Channel iron does seem worth  trying, but 
I am hoping to find something
I could get really excited about.

David
Kollas Orchard, CT


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