Re: [apple-crop] Southwest Injury

2014-03-17 Thread Arthur Kelly
Years ago we pruned some Red Del in December with similar injury that
followed on larger trees.  We stapled the bark tight on both sides and the
trees recovered but with a permanent seam where the bark had split.  The
trees were about 12 in diameter.

Art Kelly
Kelly Orchards
Acton, ME


On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Peck, Greg greg.p...@vt.edu wrote:

 Apple-Crop participants,

 Like everyone else in the Eastern half of the US, we've had a particularly
 cold and snowy winter in Virginia. Not surprisingly, I am starting to hear
 reports about Southwest injury to young trees. While there is a lot of
 information available on how to prevent southwest injury, I have not been
 able to find much information on how to deal with the trunks after the
 damage has been done. Typically, growers in Virginia have do not paint
 trunks with latex paint, but many will probably reconsider that decision in
 future years.

 Many trees are probably not going to make it, but I'm wondering if anyone
 has experience trying to save some of the less severely injured trees with
 bridge-grafts. How about wrapping the bark with grafting tape to try to get
 the wounds to heal? (I'm guessing that this will have a low success rate
 because the tissue has already dried out.) Depending upon how far into the
 rootstock the split extends and the age of the tree, we might also try
 cutting off the scion and hoping an advantageous bud breaks dormancy.

 Any other suggestions from those who have to deal with Southwest Injury on
 a more annual basis?

 Thanks,
 Greg
 
 Gregory Michael Peck, Ph.D.
 Assistant Professor of Horticulture
 Virginia Tech
 Alson H. Smith, Jr. Agricultural Research and Extension Center
 595 Laurel Grove Road
 Winchester, VA 22602 USA
 540/869-2560 ext 19
 greg.p...@vt.edu
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 www.anr.ext.vt.edu/tree-fruit/
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Re: [apple-crop] Southwest Injury

2014-03-17 Thread Deborah I. Breth
Greg,
 You could use the rule of thumb for canker surgery and if more than a 1/3 of 
the circumference is interrupted, likely nothing you can do.  But if less than 
1/3, try to cut the dead bark away using a straight linoleum  cut so there is 
no shelter (under the split bark) that will attract and support the borers.  
The callus will be more uniform and  heal that part of the trunk.  There will 
always be the unknown with wood rotting fungi invading the exposed heart wood.  
Good luck.

Deborah I. Breth
Cornell Cooperative Extension - Lake Ontario Fruit Program
Team Leader and IPM Specialist in Tree Fruit and Berries
12690 Rt. 31
Albion, NY   14411

mobile:  585.747.6039
phone: 585.798.4265 x 36
fax:  585.798.5191

email: d...@cornell.edu
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kuffelcr...@kuffelcreek.com
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:30 PM
To: Apple-crop discussion list
Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Southwest Injury

Greg;

We get the same damage here in Southern California, but from sunburn, not 
Southwest Injury.  But the damage is the same, dead cambium layer and sunken 
bark.  Besides robbing vigor from the tree, here it also attracts borers who 
take advantage of the tree's inability to sap out the maggot, and exploit the 
edges of the injury.  The wounds will not heal; they may eventually be covered 
by cambium growing from either side, like a pruning stump is covered over.

Bridge grafting is easier on shorter injuries like vole and rabbit damage; the 
problem with SWI is that the wounds are long and narrow. Cutting the tree off 
and letting a latent bud sprout may be a viable option depending on the damage, 
but you will have to weigh the loss of productivity against how long it would 
take if you just pruned the tree hard and let it try to heal the SWI.  

Painting trunks white, especially with an airless sprayer, seems way less 
trouble than any of this.  

Kevin Hauser
Kuffel Creek Apple Nursery
Riverside, California
Nakifuma, Uganda, East Africa

 On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 10:42:00 -0400, Peck, Greg greg.p...@vt.edu
wrote:
 Apple-Crop participants,
 
 Like everyone else in the Eastern half of the US, we've had a
particularly
 cold and snowy winter in Virginia. Not surprisingly, I am starting to
hear
 reports about Southwest injury to young trees. While there is a lot of 
 information available on how to prevent southwest injury, I have not
been
 able to find much information on how to deal with the trunks after the 
 damage has been done. Typically, growers in Virginia have do not paint 
 trunks with latex paint, but many will probably reconsider that 
 decision
in
 future years.
 
 Many trees are probably not going to make it, but I'm wondering if
anyone
 has experience trying to save some of the less severely injured trees
with
 bridge-grafts. How about wrapping the bark with grafting tape to try 
 to
get
 the wounds to heal? (I'm guessing that this will have a low success 
 rate because the tissue has already dried out.) Depending upon how far 
 into
the
 rootstock the split extends and the age of the tree, we might also try 
 cutting off the scion and hoping an advantageous bud breaks dormancy.
 
 Any other suggestions from those who have to deal with Southwest 
 Injury
on
 a more annual basis?
 
 Thanks,
 Greg
 
 Gregory Michael Peck, Ph.D.
 Assistant Professor of Horticulture
 Virginia Tech
 Alson H. Smith, Jr. Agricultural Research and Extension Center
 595 Laurel Grove Road
 Winchester, VA 22602 USA
 540/869-2560 ext 19
 greg.p...@vt.edumailto:greg.p...@vt.edu
 arec.vaes.vt.edu/alson-h-smith
 www.anr.ext.vt.edu/tree-fruit/http://www.anr.ext.vt.edu/tree-fruit/

blogs.ext.vt.edu/tree-fruit-horticulturehttp://blogs.ext.vt.edu/tree-fruit-horticulture
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Re: [apple-crop] Southwest Injury

2014-03-17 Thread Huffman, Leslie (OMAFRA)
I would think apples and pears have a better chance of recovering than peaches 
or other tender fruit. It depends on how deep the split goes as well. In severe 
cold I have seen trees split deep into the heartwood, but its more common to 
see the only the bark to the cambium.

Before trunk painting became commonplace (as well as milder winters), we used 
to tack the bark down - which excludes some insects and diseases. I was always 
surprised to see how much the split was able to join together. With some good 
TLC this season, the tree will be set back but can heal quite well.  At one 
time, we used to say trees need to be 5+ years, but with nursery trees in short 
supply, it might be worthwhile to try to save younger trees.

As Dave says, if you plan on grafting, the wood needs to be collected and 
stored soon. Don't throw it in an apple storage - ethylene is very damaging. 
Also, the grafting wax is very important to get a good seal. I'm  not sure what 
is available on the market, so you should source that now too.

Here are some old factsheets we have on grafting and repairs. Funny that we 
were  musing if these are worth keeping :)
Orchard Grafting Methods
http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/crops/facts/98-005.htm
Repair Grafting
http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/crops/facts/98-003.htm
I'm also wondering how much vole damage we will see when the snow melts.

Leslie
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Leslie Huffman
519-738-1256
leslie.huff...@ontario.camailto:519-738-1256leslie.huff...@ontario.ca

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[mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of David A. Rosenberger
Sent: March-16-14 10:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Southwest Injury

Hi, Greg -
I'm really curious to hear what others suggest.  Old-timers in northern NY 
would sometimes use shingle nails to nail the loose bark back to the trunks of 
big old winter-injured trees when the bark split away from the trunks due to 
cold injury during winter.  I'm not certain if it did any good, but it might 
have helped to reduce further desiccation of the loose bark if it was not 
already killed all the way back to the point of attachment.  Obviously, there 
is no value in nailing back dead bark.

So long as there is still live bark on one side of the trees, you might be 
surprised to see how well the trees recover on their own if you can avoid crop 
load stress and drought stress for the next year.  The damaged trees will never 
be quite the same, but my bet is that those trees that are not completely 
girdled will recover if they can be defruited or at least over-thinned this 
year.

Concerning bridge grafting, it's pretty labor intensive, but I've seen it used 
effectively.  Unless you have ideally placed root suckers already growing at 
the base of affected trees, you would need to gather the grafting wood 
immediately and refrigerate it so as to have dormant wood for grafting when the 
bark begins to slip a bit later in spring.  Grafting will be more feasible if 
you had enough snow cover to keep some bark alive above the soil line.  If bark 
is killed all the way to the soil line, you might instead consider inarch 
grafting with rootstock liners (if you can find any for spring delivery).  
These can be inserted next to the trunks with a needle-nose spade, stomped to 
backfill the spade slot, and grafted into the trunks above the damaged area 
sometime near petal fall after the liners have begun to grow.  We did this 
successfully with some Delicious/MM.106 trees that were dying from union 
necrosis (ToRSV) back in the early 80s.  In that case, we needed several 
liners/tree because the union was dying all the way around the tree.  A single 
liner/tree might work OK if you still have live bark on one side.  But as noted 
above, the tree may recover on its own if it is still alive on one side.

As noted above, grafting is labor intensive, especially if it will be required 
for many trees/A as in high-density plantings.  In addition to the labor 
required for grafting, additional attention is required to remove buds that 
will sprout on the inarch pieces and special care will be required to avoid 
hitting those tender graft pieces when applying contact herbicides.

On Mar 16, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Peck, Greg 
greg.p...@vt.edumailto:greg.p...@vt.edu wrote:


Apple-Crop participants,

Like everyone else in the Eastern half of the US, we've had a particularly cold 
and snowy winter in Virginia. Not surprisingly, I am starting to hear reports 
about Southwest injury to young trees. While there is a lot of information 
available on how to prevent southwest injury, I have not been able to find much 
information on how to deal with the trunks after the damage has been done. 
Typically, growers in Virginia have do not paint trunks with latex paint, but 
many will probably reconsider that decision in future years.

Many trees are probably not going to make it, but I'm 

Re: [apple-crop] Southwest Injury

2014-03-17 Thread Peck, Greg
Thanks to all those who responded to my email. Yes, for SWI (and most things in 
orchard systems),  an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. For those 
who missed it, there was a long discussion on trunk painting last year: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/apple-crop@virtualorchard.net/msg02242.html

From reading all the responses, and considering the lack of tree availability 
for replanting this spring, it seems to me that it might be worth trying the 
salvage some of less damaged trunks by closing up the split bark. Debbie's 
rule-of-thumb sounds reasonable and would give growers some idea as to when to 
just move on.

As Debbie also pointed out, the wounds could be an entry site for borers. The 
wound sites might also be a location for WAA colonies, which seem to have 
gotten worse under our BMSB-focused insecticide programs. I guess the exposed 
tissue could also be an entry point for herbicides.

While bridge grafting is probably technically feasible, I'm getting the sense 
that it may not be worth the time. It's up to each grower to make that 
decision, but I'd be hesitant to say it's an economically feasible choice for 
large blocks of high-density trees unless you have a talented grafter on-staff.

Greg

Gregory Michael Peck, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor of Horticulture
Virginia Tech
Alson H. Smith, Jr. Agricultural Research and Extension Center
595 Laurel Grove Road
Winchester, VA 22602 USA
540/869-2560 ext 19
greg.p...@vt.edumailto:greg.p...@vt.edu
arec.vaes.vt.edu/alson-h-smith
www.anr.ext.vt.edu/tree-fruit/http://www.anr.ext.vt.edu/tree-fruit/
blogs.ext.vt.edu/tree-fruit-horticulturehttp://blogs.ext.vt.edu/tree-fruit-horticulture
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On Mar 17, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Deborah I. Breth 
d...@cornell.edumailto:d...@cornell.edu wrote:

Greg,
You could use the rule of thumb for canker surgery and if more than a 1/3 of 
the circumference is interrupted, likely nothing you can do.  But if less than 
1/3, try to cut the dead bark away using a straight linoleum  cut so there is 
no shelter (under the split bark) that will attract and support the borers.  
The callus will be more uniform and  heal that part of the trunk.  There will 
always be the unknown with wood rotting fungi invading the exposed heart wood.
Good luck.

Deborah I. Breth
Cornell Cooperative Extension - Lake Ontario Fruit Program
Team Leader and IPM Specialist in Tree Fruit and Berries
12690 Rt. 31
Albion, NY   14411

mobile:  585.747.6039
phone: 585.798.4265 x 36
fax:  585.798.5191

email: d...@cornell.edumailto:d...@cornell.edu
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Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:30 PM
To: Apple-crop discussion list
Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Southwest Injury

Greg;

We get the same damage here in Southern California, but from sunburn, not 
Southwest Injury.  But the damage is the same, dead cambium layer and sunken 
bark.  Besides robbing vigor from the tree, here it also attracts borers who 
take advantage of the tree's inability to sap out the maggot, and exploit the 
edges of the injury.  The wounds will not heal; they may eventually be covered 
by cambium growing from either side, like a pruning stump is covered over.

Bridge grafting is easier on shorter injuries like vole and rabbit damage; the 
problem with SWI is that the wounds are long and narrow. Cutting the tree off 
and letting a latent bud sprout may be a viable option depending on the damage, 
but you will have to weigh the loss of productivity against how long it would 
take if you just pruned the tree hard and let it try to heal the SWI.

Painting trunks white, especially with an airless sprayer, seems way less 
trouble than any of this.

Kevin Hauser
Kuffel Creek Apple Nursery
Riverside, California
Nakifuma, Uganda, East Africa

On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 10:42:00 -0400, Peck, Greg 
greg.p...@vt.edumailto:greg.p...@vt.edu
wrote:
Apple-Crop participants,

Like everyone else in the Eastern half of the US, we've had a
particularly
cold and snowy winter in Virginia. Not surprisingly, I am starting to
hear
reports about Southwest injury to young trees. While there is a lot of
information available on how to prevent southwest injury, I have not
been
able to find much information on how to deal with the trunks after the
damage has been done. Typically, growers in Virginia have do not paint
trunks with latex paint, but many will probably reconsider that
decision
in
future years.

Many trees are probably not going to make it, but I'm wondering if
anyone
has experience trying to save some of the less severely injured trees
with
bridge-grafts. How about wrapping the bark with grafting tape to try
to
get
the wounds to heal? (I'm guessing that