We are not overly windy. We recently did experience some 50-60 mph winds
with no canopy as yet. We also get the occasional hurricane with the high
winds associated with the storm. Our exposure is not great. We have about
25 acres in the orchard and are surrounded by woods so we miss the strongest
of the winds. The key seems to be to get the stakes closer than a more
substantial wood post and to keep the large limbs out of the tops of the
trees. I would space the stakes no further than 30'. They are more likely
to bend than pull out. We drive the 10' stakes 2' into the ground.
Art Kelly
Kelly Orchards
Acton, Me 04001
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:47 PM, deird...@mindspring.com
deird...@mindspring.com wrote:
I'd like to pick up on the Jan. post about the use of Best Angle tree
stakes in a trellis system below.
What are the wind conditions in this application below? Are they more
susceptible to being pulled over in a cross wind than wooden stakes.
-Deirdre
Deirdre Birmingham
Regan Creek Orchard
Mineral Point, WI 53565
[Original Message]
From: Jill Kelly kelly...@metrocast.net
To: Apple-Crop apple-crop@virtualorchard.net
Date: 1/31/2010 7:32:37 PM
Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: posts for organic orchard
I have some rows that are 375 ft long supported by Best Angle stakes that
are in their 14th year. A Vert Axe system on M9 at 5X15. I have been
very
careful to keep large limbs out of the tops. The Best Angle stakes are
the
largest ones, 10' long and about every 30'. So far so good. We used the
same system in 2002 on more 375' rows. So far so good on those as well.
The end anchors are either buried wheel rims or those helix anchors.
Art Kelly
Kelly Orchards
Acton, ME
- Original Message -
From: Jon Clements jmcext...@gmail.com
To: Apple-Crop apple-crop@virtualorchard.net
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: posts for organic orchard
I am intrigued by the option of using metal stakes (best angle?) for
smaller plantings (several acres) and with very hi-density systems
(tall-spindle or super spindle, 3 ft or 2 ft between trees
respectively) on, for example, B.9 rootstock. But I have been told
they will not hold up? I am thinking row lengths of several hundred
feet, placing the stakes every 10 meters (30 feet) or so, 10 ft. tall
stakes driven 2.5 feet into ground puts the top wire at 7.5 feet.
Seems cost-effective, easy to run wires through holes, easy to drive
(compared to wood) and should be OK for organic. Need to figure out
the end-support I suppose. What am I missing?
Jon
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Gary Mount
gbmo...@alumni.princeton.edu wrote:
I will be planting an orchard for organic production this year and am
looking for a solution to obtaining posts. As far as I know, treated
posts
are not acceptable in the NOP (I would love to stand corrected on this
one)
and I don,t like metal posts very much. I saw some really nice concrete
posts at Fruit Logistica last winter in Berlin, but don't know of any
in
the
USA. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
-
Gary Mount
Terhune Orchards
330 Cold Soil Rd
Princeton, NJ 08540
609-924-2310
609-924-8569 fx
609-462-9672 cell
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