Re: Competition vs. Profits in the NBA

2003-07-10 Thread Robin Hanson
At 01:31 PM 7/10/2003 -0500, Fabio wrote:
... But a lot people inside sports
seem to resent big market teams (Yankees, LA Lakers) consistently
dominating the play-offs, although audiences seem to want dynasties from
big cities.
Is there an inherent problem here? Is it inevitable that there is a
conflict between people inside sports who want to see some diversity among
the winners? Is big league team sports inherently biased towards the
dynasty model? Are there viable business models for team sports that could
produce a wider range of winners?
The conflict you describe is that some people want more of a fair fight, and
others put more weight on wanting my team to win.  Of course the second
group doesn't want to win via too easy or obvious an advantage.  They may want
the rough appearance of fairness, but in fact want enough unfairness for them
to win.
Does a similar phenomena occur in other areas of life?  Do university alumni
want an appearance of fair evaluation of applicants, but really want their
kids to have an advantage?  Do businesses want an appearance that local media
are fair and impartial, but really want to be able to buy them off to prefer
their side of the story?  Are there other examples?
Can we model this behavior as resulting from rational agents, or is some
irrationality required to make such a story work?
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Re: Competition vs. Profits in the NBA

2003-07-10 Thread fabio guillermo rojas

Robin said:

 The conflict you describe is that some people want more of a fair fight, and
 others put more weight on wanting my team to win.  Of course the second
 group doesn't want to win via too easy or obvious an advantage.  They may want
 the rough appearance of fairness, but in fact want enough unfairness for them
 to win.

 Can we model this behavior as resulting from rational agents, or is some
 irrationality required to make such a story work?

It doesn't seem to require any irrationality. Say insisting on an unfair
game brings you benefits but has the cost that people may complain. It
seems natural to assume that the costs created by complaint will increase
as the unfairness of the game increases. If the complaint-unfairness
curve crosses the unfairness-advantage curve, then people will be more
more fair. Dictators, for example, have pushed the complain-unfairness
curve down by ruthlessly hurting dissidents. In democratic societies, the
costs imposed by complaints can be high enough to force people back to the
crossing point of the curve. Now that you put it this way, I'd say it's a
nice econ 101 problem.

Fabio 




RE: Competition vs. Profits in the NBA

2003-07-10 Thread Mike Cardwell
In truth, the major pro sports (at least in the US and Canada)have very
different buisness models that to different degrees skew the system to
big and small market teams.  

First and formost, every league has different revenue sharing agreements
between its membership.  To my recollection, the NFL teams put a
relatively large amount of revenue into a common pot and then divide it
equally.  This, of course, gives a boost to smaller market teams.  The
last six Super Bowl winners have been Tampa, New England, Baltimore, St.
Louis, Denver (twice) and Green Bay.  All relatively large markets.
Couple this with rigid standards on player salaries (in the form of a
collective bargaining agreement with the players union that defines a
maximum amount each team can spend on players), and small market and big
market teams are on a relatively even playing field.

At the other end of the spectrum, Major League Baseball teams share
relatively little revenue and have (until last year... And the rules are
still pretty loose) no real curbs on how much a team can spend on
players).  Teams from Southern California or New York have appeared in
and won 5 of the last six World Series.

Why do relatively similar endeavors have such different business models?




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Playoffs between small market teams get low ratings, like the New Jersey
Nets/San Antonio Spurs championship game. But a lot people inside sports
seem to resent big market teams (Yankees, LA Lakers) consistently
dominating the play-offs, although audiences seem to want dynasties from
big cities.

Is there an inherent problem here? Is it inevitable that there is a
conflict between people inside sports who want to see some diversity
among the winners? Is big league team sports inherently biased towards
the dynasty model? Are there viable business models for team sports that
could produce a wider range of winners?

Fabio








Family Businesses and Licensing

2003-07-10 Thread John Perich
In my informal experience, fathers and sons tend to work together full-time only in professions with strict licensing or training requirements. Electricians, lawyers, realtors and even CPAs - I've found more father/son teams here than in any other type of job. All of those jobs have fairlyrigid prerequisites (electricians have to pass journeyman and master-level tests;lawyers have the bar and law school, etc). Why is that?
Also - why is it more often "father/son," and not "mother/daughter" or "mother/son"? Or "father/daughter"?
-JP
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