double vs. single entry

2002-06-27 Thread Bryan Caplan

What exactly is the advantage of double-entry accounting over
single-entry accounting?
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Re: double vs. single entry

2002-06-27 Thread Alex Tabarrok

Double entry accounting makes it very difficult to hide losses and
massively inflate your profits...wait, that can't be right, scratch
that.  I don't know.

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Re: double vs. single entry

2002-06-27 Thread fabio guillermo rojas


Double entry means that you have one column for money going out
of an account and one column for money going into an account. Thus, 
it very easy to keep track of cash inflow and outflow (just add up
the columns). With single entry, there is more error because you
mistakenly count a debit as a credit. The advantage is huge 
when you have to do things by hand. It also helps you track errors
more quickly. Fabio 

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Bryan Caplan wrote:

 What exactly is the advantage of double-entry accounting over
 single-entry accounting?
 -- 
 Prof. Bryan Caplan
Department of Economics  George Mason University
 http://www.bcaplan.com  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   He wrote a letter, but did not post it because he felt that no one 
would have understood what he wanted to say, and besides it was not 
necessary that anyone but himself should understand it. 
Leo Tolstoy, *The Cossacks*
 





Re: double vs. single entry

2002-06-27 Thread Asa Janney

Bryan:

 What exactly is the advantage of double-entry accounting over
 single-entry accounting?

Two advantages come to mind:  One is the automatic error prevention of
having a built-in redundancy.  The other is that every economic exchange
by definition involves two quantities.  A merchant trades silk for
ducats.  By making a credit to cash on hand and a debit to silk in
inventory, he can keep a running account of the balances in each.

All the best,
Asa

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Re: double vs. single entry

2002-06-27 Thread Bryan Caplan

fabio guillermo rojas wrote:
 
 Double entry means that you have one column for money going out
 of an account and one column for money going into an account. Thus,
 it very easy to keep track of cash inflow and outflow (just add up
 the columns). With single entry, there is more error because you
 mistakenly count a debit as a credit. The advantage is huge
 when you have to do things by hand. It also helps you track errors
 more quickly. 

What's wrong with negative numbers?!

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   Department of Economics  George Mason University
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undisplayable prices

2002-06-27 Thread Wei Dai

Why do some Internet merchants refuse to display prices on some items
until you put the affected items in your online shopping cart? I first
noticed this at BestBuy.com, but now Amazon.com and CircuitCity.com have
also picked up this practice.

Here's Amazon.com's explanation, which doesn't explain anything at all:

Price Too Low to Display Explained

The too low to display message indicates an additional discount is in 
effect, and this discount is calculated in the Shopping Cart. You can see 
this price by clicking the product name and then selecting the Add to Cart 
button on the product information page. Please be assured that simply 
adding an item to your cart does not obligate you to buy it--you can 
always delete the item from your cart if you decide not to purchase it.

So what's the real explanation? How do these stores benefit by making it 
slightly harder for shoppers to compare prices?




Re: double vs. single entry

2002-06-27 Thread William Dickens

Does anyone answering here know any accounting or are people just guessing? I pulled 
out an accounting text I keep as a reference and looked up double entry and single 
entry and they weren't there. 

My understanding is that the the invention of double entry accounting refers to the 
invention of the balance sheet. My vague memory on this is that prior to that 
invention all people had in the way of accounting was ledgers showing transactions and 
rather haphazard listings of firm's assets and liabilities. If my memory serves me 
here the invention of the balance sheet allowed quick and easy insight into the book 
value of the firm which was not a well defined concept before this. Those who are 
familiar with accounting principles will recognize this as a big change. You could say 
that the invention of the balance sheet is the beginning of modern accounting. You 
could go further and say that there is virtually no useful accounting without the 
balance sheet and that nearly every other modern accounting concept (income statements 
and cash flow) are linked to the balance sheet.   - - Bill






Re: double vs. single entry

2002-06-27 Thread markjohn™

After journalizing transactions, and later posting it to its ledger 
accounts, a worksheet is made to detect errors in computation. Such is the 
case when the bookkeeper forgets to maintain a double entry in all 
journalizing or posting, the total amount of the accounts would not be 
equal to zero.

At 04:10 PM 6/27/2002 -0400, you wrote:

Double entry accounting recognizes that every transaction must affect at
least two different accounts. It is a mathematical consequence of the more
primal accounting identity assets=liabilities+owners' equity, or
equivalently investment=claims against investments. One of its more
attractive qualities (at least to accountants) is that it is easy to audit
and track errors. I have never heard of single entry accounting, so I don't
completely know how to answer the question as it is posed.

As an aside, I have read that the use of debits and credits in the double
entry system was a response to the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church in
medieval times that negative numbers were instruments of the devil. With
debits and credits, a negative number is never used in double entry
accounting. (the double entry system was invented by a 14th century Italien
monk and mathematician).

At 01:13 PM 6/27/2002 -0400, you wrote:
 What exactly is the advantage of double-entry accounting over
 single-entry accounting?
 --
 Prof. Bryan Caplan
Department of Economics  George Mason University
 http://www.bcaplan.com  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   He wrote a letter, but did not post it because he felt that no one
would have understood what he wanted to say, and besides it was not
necessary that anyone but himself should understand it.
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Re: high school economics

2002-06-27 Thread markjohn™



Judging from the market for texts, I am probably alone in believing that 
most micro texts have it wrong. At the principles level we do not need to 
be producing students who have a tenuous understanding of what Ph.D. 
economics students learn. Instead, we should be teaching students how to 
think like economists. Opportunity cost, gains from trade, how markets 
work, substitution possiblities in consumption and increasing opportunity 
cost in production, efficiency, market power and lack thereof, market 
failure etc. (The intermediate level is a whole different story.)
It would be hard to teach high school students to think like economists 
since there is a time constraint. A year's course in economics can give you 
the basics but it not transform them to homo economicus-es.



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Re: undisplayable prices

2002-06-27 Thread William Sjostrom

Carl Shapiro and Hal Varian's Information Rules has a good discussion on
this point.  If price comparisons are easy, then every seller's output is an
excellent substitute for every other seller's output.
Bill Sjostrom

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From: Wei Dai [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 9:06 PM
Subject: undisplayable prices


 Why do some Internet merchants refuse to display prices on some items
 until you put the affected items in your online shopping cart? I first
 noticed this at BestBuy.com, but now Amazon.com and CircuitCity.com have
 also picked up this practice.

 Here's Amazon.com's explanation, which doesn't explain anything at all:

 Price Too Low to Display Explained

 The too low to display message indicates an additional discount is in
 effect, and this discount is calculated in the Shopping Cart. You can see
 this price by clicking the product name and then selecting the Add to Cart
 button on the product information page. Please be assured that simply
 adding an item to your cart does not obligate you to buy it--you can
 always delete the item from your cart if you decide not to purchase it.

 So what's the real explanation? How do these stores benefit by making it
 slightly harder for shoppers to compare prices?








Re: double vs. single entry

2002-06-27 Thread fabio guillermo rojas

 What's wrong with negative numbers?!
 Prof. Bryan Caplan

Bryan - it's not mathematical. It's book keeping. Keeping the two
columns separate is simply easier for finding mistakes. With spreadsheets
its easy, but if its teh 13th century and all is done by hand, then
it makes a big difference. F





SV: double vs. single entry

2002-06-27 Thread Chresten Anderson

The advantage to whom? (If I may be allowed to ask a somewhat simple
question? - the accountants? The government? The owner(s)?)

Sincerely yours

Chresten Anderson

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What exactly is the advantage of double-entry accounting over
single-entry accounting?
--
Prof. Bryan Caplan
   Department of Economics  George Mason University
http://www.bcaplan.com  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  He wrote a letter, but did not post it because he felt that no one
   would have understood what he wanted to say, and besides it was not
   necessary that anyone but himself should understand it.
   Leo Tolstoy, *The Cossacks*





Re: high school economics

2002-06-27 Thread Anton Sherwood

markjohn™ wrote:
 . . . A year's course in economics can give you
 the basics but it not transform them to homo economicus-es.

Homines economici, in case anyone wanted to know.

-- 
Anton Sherwood, http://www.ogre.nu/




Re: double vs. single entry

2002-06-27 Thread fabio guillermo rojas



On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, William Dickens wrote:

 Does anyone answering here know any accounting or are people just guessing?

Just enter double entry accounting into google and you can easily
find some answers. It hard for us modern people to understand, but
simply accounting techniques can make a world of difference
of semi-literate people like medieval Europeans. Bryan asked
about negative numbers, and as any historian can tell you, it
took a long time for negative numbers to become widespread.

Fabio