Re: Siberia and Canada
Yes - evidence: the population of Canada is highly clustered around the border. I have hunch they would bolt the second the border was opened. Fabio On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Bryan Caplan wrote: Question: If there were free migration between the U.S. and Canada, would Canada lose a lot of population to California, Florida, and other more desirable locations? Prof. Bryan Caplan
Re: Siberia and Canada
Check out: http://atlas.gc.cas/site/english/maps/peopleandsociety/population/density It's a map of Canadian population density. Highest density around the great lake and the west coast. Otherwise, just a bunch of wawas up there. Fabio On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Bryan Caplan wrote: Can any Canada experts weigh in? That includes all Canadians. Eric? fabio guillermo rojas wrote: Yes - evidence: the population of Canada is highly clustered around the border. I have hunch they would bolt the second the border was opened. Fabio On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Bryan Caplan wrote: Question: If there were free migration between the U.S. and Canada, would Canada lose a lot of population to California, Florida, and other more desirable locations? Prof. Bryan Caplan -- Prof. Bryan Caplan Department of Economics George Mason University http://www.bcaplan.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope this has taught you kids a lesson: kids never learn. --Chief Wiggum, *The Simpsons*
Re: Siberia and Canada
Maybe look at migration of the Northern tier US states and put in a climate variable. Except for those getting out of the concentration camps and leaving the economically unsustainable post-communist communities, I wonder how strong the climate variable is in Russian migration. Casual conversation with some Russians suggest it might not be that great. Rodney Weiher Bryan Caplan wrote: With the collapse of internal migration restrictions, Russians are leaving Siberia for warmer locales in the south and big cities. No big surprise there. Question: If there were free migration between the U.S. and Canada, would Canada lose a lot of population to California, Florida, and other more desirable locations? -- Prof. Bryan Caplan Department of Economics George Mason University http://www.bcaplan.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope this has taught you kids a lesson: kids never learn. --Chief Wiggum, *The Simpsons*
Re: Siberia and Canada
Can any Canada experts weigh in? That includes all Canadians. Eric? fabio guillermo rojas wrote: Yes - evidence: the population of Canada is highly clustered around the border. I have hunch they would bolt the second the border was opened. Fabio On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Bryan Caplan wrote: Question: If there were free migration between the U.S. and Canada, would Canada lose a lot of population to California, Florida, and other more desirable locations? Prof. Bryan Caplan -- Prof. Bryan Caplan Department of Economics George Mason University http://www.bcaplan.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope this has taught you kids a lesson: kids never learn. --Chief Wiggum, *The Simpsons*
Re: Siberia and Canada
Well, for professionals under NAFTA there already is more or less free migration. My casual impression is that most migration which does actually occur is retirement to certain areas in the southern US (snowbirds). Further immigration leniency would be unlikely to have large effects. Recall that for _most_ Canadians the climate is similar to New York or Washington state. That said, if you're at a research university in mid or northern California and are itchin' to hire an empirical health economist Cheers, Chris Auld Department of Economics University of Calgary [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Bryan Caplan wrote: With the collapse of internal migration restrictions, Russians are leaving Siberia for warmer locales in the south and big cities. No big surprise there. Question: If there were free migration between the U.S. and Canada, would Canada lose a lot of population to California, Florida, and other more desirable locations? -- Prof. Bryan Caplan Department of Economics George Mason University http://www.bcaplan.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope this has taught you kids a lesson: kids never learn. --Chief Wiggum, *The Simpsons*
Re: Siberia and Canada
Mass migration would be incredibly unlikely in the short term. Too much Canadian nationalism. Longer term, though, increasing migration would put pressure on the Canadian govt to adopt more sensible policies to reduce outflow. At least that would be my guess. There are huge regional differences within Canada in income, and interregional migration just isn't all that strong. Migration is just massively sticky. Otherwise, Newfoundland would be empty by now. Income differences between Newfoundland and Alberta are about as big as between Canada and the US... On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Bryan Caplan wrote: Can any Canada experts weigh in? That includes all Canadians. Eric? fabio guillermo rojas wrote: Yes - evidence: the population of Canada is highly clustered around the border. I have hunch they would bolt the second the border was opened. Fabio On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Bryan Caplan wrote: Question: If there were free migration between the U.S. and Canada, would Canada lose a lot of population to California, Florida, and other more desirable locations? Prof. Bryan Caplan -- Prof. Bryan Caplan Department of Economics George Mason University http://www.bcaplan.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope this has taught you kids a lesson: kids never learn. --Chief Wiggum, *The Simpsons*
Re: Siberia and Canada
In a message dated 4/8/2004 3:34:39 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Question: If there were free migration between the U.S. and Canada,would Canada lose a lot of population to California, Florida, and othermore desirable locations?In fact we might expand the rationale to something I once asked: in theevent totally free economy ever came about, and transportation continuedto get cheaper, would the total populus of the Earth eventually live ina narrow band centered on the equator? Alternatively, if the center ofthis band was too hot or the tilt of the Earth with respect to its orbitaround the Sun required some correction, would we witness some othercircular concentration of population, or perhaps two separate bandscentered on a great (perhaps tilted) circle around the planet? It doesn't seem likely. Even if people's preferences were uniform with respect to climate (which I doubt they are; I have a perverse friend who simply revels in Chicago winter), they would not be uniform with respect to population density. I'm a Florida native,so I like warm weather as much as the next man; but if you crowded six billion people into a narrow band around the globe, then I (and like-minded others) would say "enough of this, I'm going somewhere where there's enough space for me toown a house." In the world of uniform climate preferences and perfect mobility, I suspect people would quickly distributethemselves across the globe according to willingness to put up with population density. My two cents. --Brian Economics Undergraduate, University of Chicago
Re: Siberia and Canada
On 2004-04-08, Bryan Caplan uttered: Question: If there were free migration between the U.S. and Canada, would Canada lose a lot of population to California, Florida, and other more desirable locations? In fact we might expand the rationale to something I once asked: in the event totally free economy ever came about, and transportation continued to get cheaper, would the total populus of the Earth eventually live in a narrow band centered on the equator? Alternatively, if the center of this band was too hot or the tilt of the Earth with respect to its orbit around the Sun required some correction, would we witness some other circular concentration of population, or perhaps two separate bands centered on a great (perhaps tilted) circle around the planet? -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], tel:+358-50-5756111 student/math+cs/helsinki university, http://www.iki.fi/~decoy/front openpgp: 050985C2/025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2
