IL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]CC: assam@assamnet.orgSubject: Re: [Assam] beef-eating in india -myth of Jesus, Muhhamad, Moses etcDate: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:30:36 -0500
And if there is a God, would he be bothered by the action of the earthly people?
You must be kidding!!
The very theory of G
AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] beef-eating in india
-myth of Jesus, Muhhamad, Moses etc
You must be
kidding!!
OK, I must have been then - if Ihad to view it from your viewpoint,
that is.
The very theory of God
postulate that He is influenced by the action of man, He watch
: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] beef-eating in indiaI think people forget Indian history soon. What about partition of India fueled by riots in Kolkata etc in 1947? Muslims have always been minority in India and have ruled India for thousand years
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<ASSAM@ASSAMNET.ORG>Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 7:47 PMSubject: Re: [Assam] beef-eating in india -myth of Jesus, Muhhamad, Moses etc --- umesh s
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From: umesh sharma
To: Ram Sarangapani ; xourov pathok
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Subject: Re: [Assam] beef-eating in india
I think people forget Indian history soon. What about partition of India fueled by riots in Kolkata etc in 1947? Muslims have always
: [Assam] beef-eating in india -myth of Jesus, Muhhamad, Moses etcDate: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:12:16 +0100 (BST) well I agree to that.I need God's help again.after eating Chinese dish -which did not mention what was in it (i avoided seafood -since my last attack in Jan-for same reasons perhaps
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC: assam@assamnet.orgSubject: Re: [Assam] beef-eating in india -myth of Jesus, Muhhamad, Moses etcDate: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:55:54 -0500
Umesh:
Frankly speaking, I doubt if God will help you.
If Rama and Krishna were genuine incarnati
affluence be eternal peace or a step closer to God? From: "Rajen Barua" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC: assam@assamnet.orgSubject: Re:
[Assam] beef-eating in india -myth of Jesus, Muhhamad, Moses etcDate: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:55:54 -050
: Re: [Assam] beef-eating in india
-myth of Jesus, Muhhamad, Moses etc
Doeshaving more critics make a religion more favorable to God, if
there is a God? And if there is a God, would he be bothered by the action of
the earthly people?
How is God being partial?Can affluence
: [Assam] beef-eating in india
-myth of Jesus, Muhhamad, Moses etc
Rajen-da,
God has always helped me -is helping me.
But your remarks tell us what you think about God's existence, religions
etc.
Why do you think Ram or Krishna have to take up a matter against some
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well I agree to that.
I need God's help again.
after eating Chinese
Sarangapani
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Hehehe!
There is absolutely no way to prove or disprove
in the Rig Veda is actually an atheist?
RB
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I think most Hindus in the whole world are really concerned that History books term their religious heroes and actions as myths -as mentioned in their numerous texts- even while quoting from these very texts on other non-isses .UmeshRam Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:i am not sure
that Ambedkar was
right. Don't you agree?RB
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From:
umesh
sharma
To: xourov pathok ; Ram Sarangapani
Cc: assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 12:25
AM
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Pl comment
--- umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think most Hindus in the whole world are really
concerned that History books term their religious
heroes and actions as myths -as mentioned in their
numerous texts- even while quoting from these very
texts on other non-isses .
they are mentioned
Xourov,
talking about the past and the record of beef-eating in hinduism is a means to difusing the situation.
I agree. These communal riots take place because most involved are either egged on by some politician or religious bigot.
The fact that there are more incidents of Hindus attacking
I think people forget Indian history soon. What about partition of India fueled by riots in Kolkata etc in 1947? Muslims have always been minority in India and have ruled India for thousand years.*The fact that there are more incidents of Hindus attacking Muslims in India is because Hindus
an answer.Dilip- Original Message From: xourov pathok [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: assam@assamnet.orgSent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 8:45:20
AMSubject: Re: [Assam] beef-eating in india --- Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I am saying is that some
Sarangapani Cc: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] beef-eating in india: History is from Hindu texts?
Pl comment on the following:Pl. see what Ambedkar quotes from Hindu texts. Given that he was educated in the West - Columbia Univ, London Sch
an answer.Dilip- Original Message From: xourov pathok [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: assam@assamnet.orgSent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 8:45:20 AMSubject: Re: [Assam] beef-eating in india --- Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I am saying
Any comments about Mythical nature of Jesus, Moses or Muhammad? There is NO historical proof that any of the above did any miraculous work to render them divine --like resurrection of Christ, parting the waves crossing theRed sea by Moses etc--yet despite the stories circulating around them which
--- umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any comments about Mythical nature of Jesus, Moses
or Muhammad?
There is NO historical proof that any of the above
did any miraculous work to render them divine --like
resurrection of Christ, parting the waves crossing
the Red sea by Moses etc
Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any comments about Mythical nature of Jesus, Moses
or Muhammad
That Rig Veda says that cow is not to be killed
simply means that cow was killed at one time.
RB
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umesh
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Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] beef
By reading all the quotes.
RB
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From:
umesh
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To: Barua25 ; xourov pathok ; Ram Sarangapani
Cc: assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] beef-eating in
india: History is from Hindu texts?
How did
i am under acute attack of shripm allergy so will respond later. Swollen eyelids and skin allergy etchttp://www.allergyclinic.co.nz/guides/51.htmlUmeshxourov pathok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Any comments about Mythical nature of Jesus, Moses or
Ram Sarangapani wrote:
+ I really don't think mainstream Hindus have
+ any problem in this. Many Hindus recognize that
+ ancient Hindus supposedly did eat beef. Who is
+ trying
+ to hide this fact? Most Hindus don't care one way
+ or
+ the other about this. The fact that some in the
+
even Xourav-da's article quotes only Hindu religious texts --where is the historical info -- which is not in religious tests. Why don't you believe Hindu texts when they say that Mahabharat war took place and Ram and Krishna etc were heroes born and bred in India. Why do you declare them to be
--- Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Beef-eating could be a big issue in India today. But
that was not the issue
we were discussing here.
What I said was most mainstream Hindus don't really
care if ancient Hindus
ate beef, and if this was touted to be true in
today's textbooks.
, June 17, 2006 1:21
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Subject: Re: [Assam] beef-eating in
india
Beef-eating could be a big issue in India today. But that was not the
issue we were discussing here.
What I said was most mainstream Hindus don't really care if ancient
Hindus ate beef, and if this was touted
how do you prove that Hindus ate beef in ancient India? By quoting Hindu texts? Or do you have some historically valid facts etc?Umeshxourov pathok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Beef-eating could be a big issue in India today. But that was not the
--- umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
even Xourav-da's article quotes only Hindu religious
texts --where is the historical info -- which is not
in religious tests. Why don't you believe Hindu
texts when they say that Mahabharat war took place
and Ram and Krishna etc were heroes born
Iraq war took place as did WW2 -we have some evidence of it now. What is the certainty that this evidence would remain after 5,000 years -when all the damaged aircrafts, guns , cannon and warships are melted and used to make some other tools: When the buildings are remade to house new tenants.
--- umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Iraq war took place as did WW2 -we have some
evidence of it now. What is the certainty that this
evidence would remain after 5,000 years -when all
the damaged aircrafts, guns , cannon and warships
are melted and used to make some other tools: When
You are wrong there. I have read while in India (I have brought the book with me here as well) the passage in Rig Ved which mentions beef eating. It says " Beef eating is not good --try to reduce beef eating" --while speaking to some devotee.Xourav-da wrote: "for a lay person, what is
--- umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are wrong there. I have read while in India (I
have brought the book with me here as well) the
passage in Rig Ved which mentions beef eating. It
says Beef eating is not good --try to reduce beef
eating --while speaking to some devotee.
there
Pl comment on the Ambedkar's quotes of cow killing -in my other post.Umeshxourov pathok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: You are wrong there. I have read while in India (I have brought the book with me here as well) the passage in Rig Ved which mentions beef
--- umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pl comment on the Ambedkar's quotes of cow killing
-in my other post.
i could not find ambedkar's quotes in your other
mails, but i presume you mean the comments made here:
http://www.countercurrents.org/dalit-ambekarbeef050703.htm
do you want
Pl comment on the following:Pl. see what Ambedkar quotes from Hindu texts. Given that he was educated in the West - Columbia Univ, London Sch. of Economics etc , Germany etc -we can believe that his quotes are not fabricated (any questions about tis assumption?) . His quotes from Rig Ved show
--- umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pl comment on the following:
Pl. see what Ambedkar quotes from Hindu texts.
Given that he was educated in the West - Columbia
Univ, London Sch. of Economics etc , Germany etc -we
can believe that his quotes are not fabricated (any
questions
i am not sure what you are trying to say.who areindulging in trivialities?
That would be the BJP and others who think that this is a big issue ie:
that they would need to change text books to reflect that ancient Hindus never ate beef.
All I am saying is that some small segment like the BJP or
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