Re: [Assp-user] PHP tool to view and Sort your Spam/Notspam

2006-10-06 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Charles Marcus wrote:
 This is very interesting, Michael, because I agree, Bayesian based 
 systems definitely have always seemed to have problems in my experience 
 (start out pretty good, then go downhill from there), and maybe what you 
 are describing is the precise reason for it. It would be awesome if you 
 could find the time to write up a little how-to for this and put it up 
 on the wiki (or have you done so already?), complete with some example 
 regex's that you have found to help.

 Anyway, thanks already for everything you've described up to now.

You're welcome.  I only hope its useful information to the minority of 
us that have experienced this problem.  I count 8-10 people so far that 
are in agreement with my off-line of the list, but I know there are 
countless more that use other Bayesian-based products.

I don't like to bring this issue up, because as Fritz *rightfully* 
points out, this is not the way the Bayesian filtering is meant to 
function.  But, perhaps that needs to be re-thought, because in some 
organizations Bayesian functionality begins to spiral degrade after a 
few months of normal use.

I have thought about writing something up for the Wiki specifically in 
regards to this issue, but this is still more of a personal hypothesis 
than a fact - and I don't want to add needless confusion to any new or 
existing users until there is more of a consensus that this is indeed a 
problem and viable solution.

When I get to writing an article explaining the reRe, I will also add 
some of my basic Regular Expressions as I did with the bombRe and 
scriptRe article - but I won't be adding everything that I use to avoid 
pollution, as it would not be applicable to all users.


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Re: [Assp-user] PHP tool to view and Sort your Spam/Notspam

2006-10-06 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy
assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net schreibt:

I don't like to bring this issue up, because as Fritz *rightfully* 
points out, this is not the way the Bayesian filtering is meant to 
function.  But, perhaps that needs to be re-thought, because in some 
organizations Bayesian functionality begins to spiral degrade after a 
few months of normal use.

It *is* already rethought and we have built in lots of stuff to have
the database not degrading. And it is working *automatically*. Your
approach is the same as I see with people who loves to tune their
harddisk (compressing, moving, whatver). After some time they really
need all the work again and again. You see my different approach: I
never tuned a HD in 30 years. 


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