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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:25 AM
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Thanks for a very wise advice ... we are actually looking into it, we
had a bridged system
On 1 Feb 2008, at 14:33, Andy Davidson wrote:
So how did you solve the duplexity issues of Wireless, and
what they does to high-demand voip ?
Andy, most of the wireless providers have bet the farm on being able
to cover their ears and sing, 'la la la, I can't hear you' when
customers ask
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 18:51 +, Alice Stamping wrote:
On 1 Feb 2008, at 14:33, Andy Davidson wrote:
So how did you solve the duplexity issues of Wireless, and
what they does to high-demand voip ?
Andy, most of the wireless providers have bet the farm on being able
to cover their
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not sure what more you want.
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Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 12:51 PM
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On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 14:52 -0600, Mike Hammett wrote:
So basically you're saying that the company just has to engineer their
network properly for maximum performance? Isn't it the same with EVERY
network? You put in some putz, you get crap out. You put in someone that
knows what
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So basically you're saying that the company just has to engineer their
network properly
, 2008 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Starting a VOIP Business
On 1 Feb 2008, at 14:33, Andy Davidson wrote:
So how did you solve the duplexity issues of Wireless, and
what they does to high-demand voip ?
Andy, most of the wireless providers have bet the farm on being
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 13:41 -0800, Gondar Monn wrote:
Just came across this book : Voice over 802.11 by Ohrtman Frank
published by Artech House in 2004, looks really interesting and
addresses most of the concerns mentioned in the different posts.
According to him, Vo802.11 is the future
Let say : they are from the same family ... :-)
Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 13:41 -0800, Gondar Monn wrote:
Just came across this book : Voice over 802.11 by Ohrtman Frank
published by Artech House in 2004, looks really interesting and
addresses most of the
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On Sun, 2008-02
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 18:59 -0600, Mike Hammett wrote:
What do you want to know about the contention rates?
There's not usually any reason to discuss contention or duplex as the person
on the other side off the fence won't understand or will falsely think there
is an issue when there is
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On Sun, 2008-02
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 18:32 -0600, Mike Hammett wrote:
802.16 is better than 802.11 for wide area networks, but only marginally
better than existing wide area wireless network gear. The main advantage is
interoperability among vendors. 802.11 holds the ticket for local area
networks.
On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 14:33 +, Andy Davidson wrote:
On 31 Jan 2008, at 16:54, Mike Hammett wrote:
As a WISP and VoIP operator myself I agree that those things cause
issues,
but not all WISPs are operated in that fashion. What percentage, I
cannot
say, but my network has less
On 1 Feb 2008, at 14:47, Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 14:33 +, Andy Davidson wrote:
So how did you solve the duplexity issues of Wireless, and what
they does to high-demand voip ?
there was a group a couple years ago that did linux drivers
specifically to
On 31 Jan 2008, at 16:54, Mike Hammett wrote:
As a WISP and VoIP operator myself I agree that those things cause
issues,
but not all WISPs are operated in that fashion. What percentage, I
cannot
say, but my network has less than 0.1% packet loss and end-end
latency is
almost always
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On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 14:33 +, Andy Davidson wrote:
On 31 Jan 2008, at 16:54, Mike Hammett wrote:
As a WISP and VoIP operator myself I agree that those
: [asterisk-biz] Starting a VOIP Business
I was thinking the exact same thing. My experience (as a user) with
WISPs has been basically lost packets, intermittent service issues,
etc. VoIP is fragile as it is, so there is no way you could deliver
VoIP reliably with these issues...
If you DON'T
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Starting a VOIP Business
On 31 Jan 2008, at 16:54, Mike Hammett wrote:
As a WISP and VoIP operator myself I agree that those things cause
issues,
but not all WISPs are operated in that fashion. What percentage, I
cannot
say, but my network has less than 0.1
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Thanks for a very wise advice
--- Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wireless + VoIP is really the only way to be an ISP or an ITSP.
Any other combination results in too much dependence on someone
else and not enough profit.
Dunno about that... as a WISP with VoIP you're pretty much restricted
to your WISP user
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Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 2:25 PM
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--- Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Gondar,
You might want to look at our solution. We have 2 main offerings that
you can see here http://flatplanetphone.com/wordpress/?p=459
But we are flexible. In fact we have actually just installed a full
system for a WISP.
Please contact me if you need more details
Moshe Maeir
Chief
Just a word of advise make sure the network is ready for the voip
traffic, at my ofice we had a very poor experience with a WISP with VOIP
because the network was not ready well managed
John
Gondar Monn wrote:
Thanks for your willingness to help ..
@ Pilosov, we got the PRI lines + the
I was thinking the exact same thing. My experience (as a user) with
WISPs has been basically lost packets, intermittent service issues,
etc. VoIP is fragile as it is, so there is no way you could deliver
VoIP reliably with these issues...
If you DON'T have lost packet issues (rare for a WISP I
: [asterisk-biz] Starting a VOIP Business
I was thinking the exact same thing. My experience (as a user) with
WISPs has been basically lost packets, intermittent service issues,
etc. VoIP is fragile as it is, so there is no way you could deliver
VoIP reliably with these issues...
If you DON'T have
I second the concerns regarding the stability of a WISP network. However, it can be done correctly in a fashion that works. I'm currently a customer of a WISP and I use voip all the time without quality issues. We're using Canopy equipment and I go Office - Tower 1 - Tower 2 - Tower 3 - Wireless
Thanks for a very wise advice ... we are actually looking into it, we
had a bridged system and are redesigning it to be fully routed +
implementing QoS + switching bandwidth providers to get a better
backbone
Thanks again
Gondar
Nitzan Kon wrote:
I was thinking the exact same thing. My
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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Starting a VOIP Business
I was thinking the exact same thing. My experience (as a user) with
WISPs has been basically lost packets, intermittent service issues,
etc. VoIP
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Thanks Senad ! Looks like your maxirack solution will be a good start .
I saw on the picture that no card is provided ... Does it have a PCI
express port ? (the TE420 is PCI express).
I am downloading the vmware image to take a peek
Thanks
Gondar
Can we talk off-list ?
Senad Jordanovic
Gondar Monn wrote:
Thanks Senad ! Looks like your maxirack solution will be a good start .
I saw on the picture that no card is provided ... Does it have a PCI
express port ? (the TE420 is PCI express).
sure.. it has 6 PCI slots, 3xPCIe, 3xPCIx
I am downloading the vmware image to take a
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Gondar Monn wrote:
Have some PRI connections from a dying dialup business, would like to
put them to good use... Just got a Digium TE420 and looking for a server
that would do the job, and leave some room for more cards if needed.
Initially bought a PowerEdge 2950 but
Thanks for your willingness to help ..
@ Pilosov, we got the PRI lines + the TE420. We are now looking for the
best machine that could handle the supposedly 120 calls and maybe more
... + the hosted PBX
@Balashov, we are a WISP and provide internet access to remote areas, we
want to offer
Gondar Monn wrote:
Thanks for your willingness to help ..
@ Pilosov, we got the PRI lines + the TE420. We are now looking for the
best machine that could handle the supposedly 120 calls and maybe more
+ the hosted PBX
@Balashov, we are a WISP and provide internet access to remote
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