Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-11 Thread Sebastian Nielsen
Its just that it seems so unrealistic.. WHAT do you need 1M DID’s for? Give each stone in your company driveway a own phone number? 1M DID’s = Thats 10% of the population of the country I live in. (sweden) 1M DID’s is also three times more than the amount of customers the phone operator

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-11 Thread Sebastian Nielsen
1: 1M DID’s? Then I would go straight out and say you are a phone operator, and then getting your own STIR/SHAKEN certificate shouldn’t be a problem at all. Thats a massive amount of numbers, unrealistically many numbers for any company ever except for those that are a phone operator. 2:

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-11 Thread John Millican
Sebastian, There are many reasons why someone would want the DIDs provided by one provider and outbound calls to go out via 1,2 3, or more providers. In one of my installs I have a situation where local calls are placed via a local telco switch but LD calls go out via a voip provider.  The

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-11 Thread Sebastian Nielsen
I reallt don’t understand why people simply use the same operator to terminate your calls, which also provide DIDs for you. Then you don’t need to touch this at all, your carrier will do all the STIR/SHAKEN handling for you, you are just a PBX customer. And then the operator then simply

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-11 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere
The "inbound piece" is "what do I do with the tag information"? Should I find a way to present the fact that a call has an A rating? Should I offer to block calls with a C rating? It would be great to see asterisk be able to unpack this stuff and have it available as a dialplan variable and

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-11 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere
To be honest, that is the logic we ended up with, and are dumping our LCR.  The savings aren't worth the headache.  We don't have 1M numbers, but we have a significant number.  We can't quite get down to one carrier (and don't really want to), but we can keep outbound calls on the carrier that

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-11 Thread dk
You said it in your first post when you said “I reallt don’t understand.” You don’t understand the business that these people are in. A few people showed you a few examples of why it’s important to use more than one carrier--and there are other reasons that stir/shaken is a big deal for some of

Re: [asterisk-users] CallerID presentation - presentation prohibited but still passing number

2021-03-11 Thread Naveen Albert
On 3/11/2021 2:50 PM, Mike wrote: Thank you for taking the time. I believe you misunderstood my question. Callerid presence is passed perfectly already, as shown through Verbose commands on both sides of the SIP call. I should have mentioned before that the scenario I mentioned was with IAX2

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-11 Thread Joel Serrano
Hi, I wanted to add some comments to Sebastian's response: 1- When you have a lot of DIDs, you can't just "port" them over from company1 to company2. Try to have 1M or so DIDs and ask if you can just port them. No no, not that simple. There is a process that a lot of times is not worth the

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-11 Thread Telium Technical Support
If you operate a small PBX for a business your approach is fine. If you operate a large PBX, or just have lots of high toll rate calls, the price difference between carriers can add up to a lot money every day. These operators will route their calls to whomever offers the best rate for that

Re: [asterisk-users] CallerID presentation - presentation prohibited but still passing number

2021-03-11 Thread phreak
I've been able to pass presentation status between tandems without needing to do anything explicitly. This seems to be part of the Caller ID that is transmitted without explicit intervention. Have you tested without using the u option? I've never used the u option and not had issues with

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-11 Thread Alexander Perkins
Hi Jeff. What exactly do you mean by the 'inbound piece'? I've spent quite a lot of time with the folks at TILTX understanding the framework; but I am not exactly sure what you mean by the 'inbound piece. Greg/Doug, like many folks here, we use LCR. So, the terminating carrier is not

Re: [asterisk-users] CallerID presentation - presentation prohibited but still passing number

2021-03-11 Thread Mike
THANK YOU! Case closed, that was indeed the problem. Michael From: asterisk-users On Behalf Of Joshua C. Colp Sent: March 11, 2021 15:52 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] CallerID presentation - presentation prohibited but still

Re: [asterisk-users] CallerID presentation - presentation prohibited but still passing number

2021-03-11 Thread Joshua C. Colp
On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 4:50 PM Mike wrote: > Thank you for taking the time. I believe you misunderstood my question. > Callerid presence is passed perfectly already, as shown through Verbose > commands on both sides of the SIP call. The CALLERID name and numbers > aren't passed properly ONLY

Re: [asterisk-users] CallerID presentation - presentation prohibited but still passing number

2021-03-11 Thread Mike
Thank you for taking the time. I believe you misunderstood my question. Callerid presence is passed perfectly already, as shown through Verbose commands on both sides of the SIP call. The CALLERID name and numbers aren't passed properly ONLY when presence is "hidden". As if Asterisk decided that

[asterisk-users] CallerID presentation - presentation prohibited but still passing number

2021-03-11 Thread Mike
Hi, Using Asterisk 13.36.0 I have a bit of a technical issue with hidden caller IDs. My setup, at the moment, is composed of two Asterisk boxes. In some instance, calls arrive on Asterisk A, and are then sent to Asterisk B for further processing. The link between them is SIP (both on the

[asterisk-users] SIP Realtime peers

2021-03-11 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. I'm using MariaDB (via ODBC) to store realtime SIP peers with Asterisk 13 and 16. In general it's all working fine, however there's something that puzzles me: If I connect to the Asterisk console and use the command "sip show peers" I get a list of the peers including the last qualify