Re: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIP

2006-02-20 Thread Lee Howard
Phil Blundell wrote: I suspect that the datapath through our regular network switches is probably close enough to lossless for this purpose as well. You could be surprised. I know that I have been suprised by how easy it is for a UDP packet to get dropped or lost. I've had a few customers

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIP

2006-02-20 Thread Jerry Jones
Losing an audio packet here or there wouldn't normally be so bad for fax. Normally I would expect the fax protocol, especially ECM protocol, to be able to recover from it. However, Asterisk seems to not work in an ideal fashion for this purpose. Whenever Asterisk encounters a lost

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIP

2006-02-20 Thread Lee Howard
Jerry Jones wrote: Turning ECM seems to cause most of my issues with FAX. Most newer machines have this on by default. However if there is any packet loss, then when ECM tries to resend and there is additional loss, then it gets in a loop and everything just fails. Whereas with ECM off,

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIP

2006-02-19 Thread tim panton
On 19 Feb 2006, at 06:04, Lee Howard wrote:J Poz wrote: Using an analog line is not an option for my service. My application runs on a ROOT SERVER of an ASP. So I can do anything I want to the server but I can't connect to or get external analog lines. So my options are doing faxing via the

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIP

2006-02-19 Thread Phil Blundell
On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 22:04 -0800, Lee Howard wrote: Traditional faxing (not T.38) pretty much requires a lossless audio channel. Normally the best way to get this is with PSTN channels/lines through a Zap device. That said, VoIP channels can be configured such that they are also

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIP

2006-02-19 Thread Rich Adamson
Traditional faxing (not T.38) pretty much requires a lossless audio channel. Normally the best way to get this is with PSTN channels/lines through a Zap device. That said, VoIP channels can be configured such that they are also lossless. IAXmodem, for example, functions on the

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIP

2006-02-19 Thread Technical Support
Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; Philip EdelbrockSubject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIP MD, Using an analog line is not an option for my service. My application runs on a ROOT SERVER of an ASP. So I can do anything I want to the server but I can't connect

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIP

2006-02-19 Thread J Poz
EdelbrockSubject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIPMD,Using an analog line is not an option for my service. My application runs on a ROOT SERVER of an ASP. So I can do anything I want to the server but I can't connect to or get external analog lines. So my options are doing

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIP

2006-02-19 Thread Lee Howard
Phil Blundell wrote: 1. Connect the fax machine to an ATA and have it speak SIP or IAX to * This will work provided that you can create a near-lossless communication path between the ATA and the PSTN gateway (which is the Asterisk box, I assume). One way of creating that, I would

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIP

2006-02-19 Thread Phil Blundell
On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 07:36 -0800, Lee Howard wrote: This will work provided that you can create a near-lossless communication path between the ATA and the PSTN gateway (which is the Asterisk box, I assume). One way of creating that, I would expect, would be to add another ethernet card

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIP

2006-02-19 Thread Sanjay Arora
My 2 cents worth: I really think that a suggestion that someone in this thread gave regarding asterisk not being the right medium for this is correct. Check out http://www.tpc.int/ which implements a email2fax gateway, one you can implement for yourself, instead of providing to the public.

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIP

2006-02-19 Thread Craig Guy
modem to work at all on Linksys. Craig - Original Message - From: Phil Blundell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using

[Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIP

2006-02-18 Thread J Poz
I have a specific business problem that I'm hoping someone has ideas and/or has already worked out a solution.My application needs to be able to automatically create and issue faxes to many different fax machines. The volume is going to be very high. And it is only about sending faxes and not

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIP

2006-02-18 Thread Philip Edelbrock
On Feb 18, 2006, at 11:35 AM, J Poz wrote: I have a specific business problem that I'm hoping someone has ideas and/or has already worked out a solution. My application needs to be able to automatically create and issue faxes to many different fax machines. The volume is going to be

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIP

2006-02-18 Thread Peer Oliver Schmidt
J Poz schrieb: I have a specific business problem that I'm hoping someone has ideas and/or has already worked out a solution. My application needs to be able to automatically create and issue faxes to many different fax machines. The volume is going to be very high. And it is only about

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIP

2006-02-18 Thread J Poz
Thanks for the information. I prefer to try to develop/configure something myself versus using an external provider. I currently use one (have tried another) and there are no guarantees on reliability, timelines, etc. I'm in need of as close to real-time response as possible (assuming the fax

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIP

2006-02-18 Thread Technical Support
sionCc: J PozSubject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIP Thanks for the information. I prefer to try to develop/configure something myself versus using an external provider. I currently use one (have tried another) and there are no guarantees on reliability, timelines, etc. I

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIP

2006-02-18 Thread J Poz
erimenting with an analog line connected to your asterisk box.MD From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J PozSent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 4:17 PMTo: Philip Edelbrock; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial DiscussionCc: J PozSubject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Applicat

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Application Faxing using SIP

2006-02-18 Thread Lee Howard
J Poz wrote: Using an analog line is not an option for my service. My application runs on a ROOT SERVER of an ASP. So I can do anything I want to the server but I can't connect to or get external analog lines. So my options are doing faxing via the Internet (VOIP/SIP) or use a faxing