Re: [Asterisk-Users] Do you need a licence to connect a Ciscohardphone to Asterisk ?

2006-07-09 Thread Florian Overkamp
Michiel van Baak wrote: If you buy a model without the spare in it's name, you have the license to use them right ? To use them with a CCM or CCME, yes :-) How about secondhand phones you get from ebay ? Is my cisco smartnet account enough to run the phone legally ? It's not a spare model

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Do you need a licence to connect a Ciscohardphone to Asterisk ?

2006-07-09 Thread Rich Adamson
Florian Overkamp wrote: Michiel van Baak wrote: If you buy a model without the spare in it's name, you have the license to use them right ? To use them with a CCM or CCME, yes :-) How about secondhand phones you get from ebay ? Is my cisco smartnet account enough to run the phone legally ?

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Do you need a licence to connect a Ciscohardphone to Asterisk ?

2006-07-09 Thread Martin Joseph
snip Another side issue... the Cisco phones have no way to remove the installed firmware. Therefore, there is no way to legally sell a used Cisco phone, period. As a non Cisco user this whole discussion is enough to steer me away from there VOIP products for good. I hate the idea that

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Do you need a licence to connect a Ciscohardphone to Asterisk ?

2006-07-09 Thread Jay Milk
Good idea. Let's write some open-source firmware for Cisco phones. What will you be contributing? Martin Joseph wrote: snip Another side issue... the Cisco phones have no way to remove the installed firmware. Therefore, there is no way to legally sell a used Cisco phone, period. As a

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Do you need a licence to connect a Ciscohardphone to Asterisk ?

2006-07-09 Thread Martin Joseph
On Jul 9, 2006, at 12:11 PM, Jay Milk wrote: Good idea. Let's write some open-source firmware for Cisco phones. What will you be contributing? Well, it looks like I already contributed the idea didn't I ;~) I don't have any Cisco phones, so if you want to send be a couple I'll take a

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Do you need a licence to connect a Ciscohardphone to Asterisk ?

2006-07-08 Thread Cory Andrews
r To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 6:33 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Do you need a licence to connect a Ciscohardphone to Asterisk ? 2006/7/7, Florian Overkamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Olivier wrote: Do you n

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Do you need a licence to connect a Ciscohardphone to Asterisk ?

2006-07-08 Thread Florian Overkamp
Cory Andrews wrote: In my interpretation of the oft confusing Cisco licensing structure for phones, the license was originally created to function much like a COA with a piece of Microsoft software. When adding a client phone to a CallManager or CallManager Express network, the user is

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Do you need a licence to connect a Ciscohardphone to Asterisk ?

2006-07-08 Thread Michiel van Baak
On 16:44, Sat 08 Jul 06, Florian Overkamp wrote: Point is, you do not really need a CH1 or CCME license, you are free to combine the Spare phone with a separate SIP license - the price is identical. It is NOT OK however to use a Spare phone without any license, as far as I am aware. Thanks

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Do you need a licence to connect a Ciscohardphone to Asterisk ?

2006-07-08 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling
Michiel van Baak wrote: On 16:44, Sat 08 Jul 06, Florian Overkamp wrote: Point is, you do not really need a CH1 or CCME license, you are free to combine the Spare phone with a separate SIP license - the price is identical. It is NOT OK however to use a Spare phone without any license, as far