On 6/3/05, Karl J. Vesterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's clear this up once and for all...
Yeah it was cleared of before, you fucking idiot liar, politician, go
sun bath with your Nazi friend Kennedy and don't bore us with your
lies and rantings. Cry baby.
FIRST OFF:
It was
On Sunday 05 June 2005 15:34, C F wrote:
On 6/3/05, Karl J. Vesterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's clear this up once and for all...
Yeah it was cleared of before, you fucking idiot liar, politician, go
sun bath with your Nazi friend Kennedy and don't bore us with your
lies and
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Subject: E911 Legislation (was) Re:
[Asterisk-Users] VoiPSupply Dot Com
E911 legislation has no business being applied to
VOIP... That gets the FCC involved, and is a foot i
On Friday 03 June 2005 17:04, Karl J. Vesterling wrote:
Let's clear this up once and for all...
FUCK OFF ALREADY. Jesus Christ.
They fucked up. They apologized. You continue to nitpick. They nitpick
back.
DROP THE FUCKING THREAD ALREADY
BUT! If you're a business, and you want to deal
On 5/18/05, Wilson Pickett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The turnaround on email support was almost immediate.
The RMA request, once that decision was made, was easy.
I'll come back in a few days with the end of the story :)
The phone went to a test area for a day or two, the decision was
Karl J. Vesterling wrote:
I'm amazed that this thread keeps going...
About the claim of Ship-To being on file with bank...
CDW doesn't have a problem with it... Ingram Micro doesn't have a
problem with it. Merisel doesn't have a problem with it. Digi-Key
doesn't have a problem with
Let's clear this up once and for all...
FIRST OFF:
It was *NOT* a credit card purchase, so that argument is
totally invalid.
Company check, delivered in person on Monday, and they do clear
next-day.
Federal Law mandates that a check clear within 24 hours in-state or out
of state. Should your
E911 legislation has no business being applied to VOIP...
That gets the FCC involved, and is a foot in the door to legislating the
internet itself.
Nope... I'll have none of that...
Get a junk cell phone and keep it handy if you want E911 service.
It doesn't even have to be active on anyones
He is right Karl. Without the ship-to being on file with the bank..
the company can be held responsible for fraudulant purchases.
On 5/31/05, Karl J. Vesterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm amazed that this thread keeps going...
About the claim of Ship-To being on file with bank...
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To: C F; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] VoiPSupply Dot Com
I'm amazed that this thread keeps going...
About the claim of Ship-To being on file with bank...
CDW doesn't have a problem with it... Ingram Micro doesn't
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] VoiPSupply Dot Com
He is right Karl. Without the ship-to being on file with the bank..
the company can be held responsible for fraudulant purchases.
On 5/31
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] VoiPSupply Dot Com
He is right Karl. Without the ship-to being on file with the bank..
the company can be held responsible for fraudulant purchases.
On 5/31/05, Karl J. Vesterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm amazed that this thread keeps going
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Karl has already stated more that once that this was NOT a credit card
purchase. If a credit card
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Karl has already stated more that once
On May 31, 2005, at 4:30 PM, Karl J. Vesterling wrote:
Garrett, evidently there is some verbage to that effect on the site.
But just to let you know, no other business that we've done business
with requires anything like that. Not a one.
Also worthy of note is that the purchase was
: [Asterisk-Users]
VoiPSupply Dot Com
Interesting... Seems the first portion of the message of the previous
post got chopped...
Garrett, evidently there is some verbage to that effect on the site. But
just to let you know, no other business that we've done business with requires
anything like
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] VoiPSupply Dot Com
I'm amazed that this thread keeps going...
About the claim of Ship-To being on file with bank...
CDW doesn't have a problem with it... Ingram Micro doesn't have a problem
with it. Merisel doesn't
I'm amazed that this thread keeps going...
About the claim of Ship-To being on file with bank...
CDW doesn't have a problem with it... Ingram Micro doesn't have a
problem with it. Merisel doesn't have a problem with it.
Digi-Key doesn't have a problem with it... Why would
Voip-Supply???
We
On 5/31/05, Karl J. Vesterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm amazed that this thread keeps going...
So am I, but you keep it up :)
About the claim of Ship-To being on file with bank...
CDW doesn't have a problem with it... Ingram Micro doesn't have a problem
with it. Merisel
Karl J. Vesterling wrote:
I'm amazed that this thread keeps going...
All of us are amazed, too: Karl is going to get the last word in here,
no matter what.
I would recommend you move on; this is a pissing contest and I am
relatively certain I speak for others in saying that you are
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users]
VoiPSupply Dot Com
I'm amazed that this thread keeps going...
About the claim of Ship
On Tue, 31 May 2005, Garrett Smith wrote:
**PLEASE NOTE** If your billing address and shipping address are different
you should call your credit card company and have your shipping address
added as a valid address. If you do not do this your order may be delayed or
possibly cancelled.
any more time on
this issue and drop it.
Cheers,
Wiley
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Capouch
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] VoiPSupply Dot Com
I'm amazed that this thread keeps going...
About the claim of Ship-To being on file with bank...
CDW doesn't have a problem with it... Ingram Micro doesn't have a problem with it. Merisel doesn't have a problem with it. Digi-Key doesn't have a problem with it... Why would Voip
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On Behalf Of Karl J. Vesterling
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 12:30 PM
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Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] VoiPSupply Dot Com
I'm
See below...
At 07:29 PM 5/26/2005, you wrote:
It's
not the licenses, that's like 10% of the problem. One can always
buy licenses... But the 16 man hours I wasted waiting for the
across-town overnight shipment vastly outweighed the cost of the
licenses.
To mitigate risk, why didn't you ask to
On May 27, 2005 08:15 am, Karl J. Vesterling wrote:
It's cheaper to pay the $85.00 to send the equipment than it is to pull
someone off the assembly line at KTE to act as the gopher.
Fair enough.
Yup... Had that... Got the tracking number when I got on the flight, but
it didn't scan in
At 08:59 AM 5/27/2005, you wrote:
[ snip for brevity ]
I just wanted to clarify ... this isn't a voipsupply.com problem at all,
but
rather a courier screwup... which happens anywhere and at anytime...
right?
TWO screw ups in the shipment.
1.) It was shipped to the Bill-To address. Since there
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Karl
On 5/27/05, Karl J. Vesterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 08:59 AM 5/27/2005, you wrote:
[ snip for brevity ]
I just wanted to clarify ... this isn't a voipsupply.com problem at all,
but
rather a courier screwup... which happens anywhere and at anytime... right?
TWO screw ups in
I promise this will be the last chapter in the story, at least from my
end. If we could only get George Lucas to say the same thing about the
godawful new Star Wars movies he keeps cranking out.
I did some research this morning, interviewed the involved parties on
our end, and have come
LOL - You mean he actually 'met' Newt Gingrich? How dare you not extend
him credit!!!
I mean seriously... For such a distinguished individual...
Hey, not only have I met the heads of several multi-billion dollar
corps, I have gotten absolutely blasted drunk with them.
So I should get credit, a
-Users] VoiPSupply Dot Com: Epilogue
LOL - You mean he actually 'met' Newt Gingrich? How dare you not extend
him credit!!!
I mean seriously... For such a distinguished individual...
Hey, not only have I met the heads of several multi-billion dollar
corps, I have gotten absolutely blasted drunk
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Wolfe
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 4:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] VoiPSupply Dot Com: Epilogue
Maybe I should my pictures in with me
Only if you have your clothes on and they don't... ;-)
I should _hope_ they don't have your clothes on :)
Andrew
--
Linux supports the notion of a command line or a shell for the same
reason that only children read books with only pictures in them.
Language, be it English or something else,
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Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] VoiPSupply Dot Com
VoIPSupply has given me some of the best customer service I've
:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] VoiPSupply Dot
Com
We just bought (a couple weeks ago) Qty 6 Cisco Phones from
them.There was no licenses with the phones... Go figure... So,
evidently they're supposed to be new, and one would expect they come with the
license, but alas no license.We
! Explains
his whole email.
Heh...
Greg
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Karl J. Vesterling
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:29 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] VoiPSupply Dot Com
We
It's not the licenses, that's like 10% of the problem. One can always buy licenses... But the 16 man hours I wasted waiting for the across-town overnight shipment vastly outweighed the cost of the licenses.
To mitigate risk, why didn't you ask to pick up the product in person?
The main gripe
Karl,
first off I apologize for any inconvenience on your recent order. I will
take a look at your transaction to see where things may have gone awry. We
do make mistakes, but we strive to not make the same mistake more than
once. Secondly, I apologize to the list moderator for the
Fellow Canadians:
Please excuse this brief bit of self-promotion but in my defence it does
pertain to this thread.
Being in Canada it makes it very difficult to find companies that will
ship COD from the US. If I was to order I would only order COD from
now on from VoipSupply.
We are in
Being in Canada it makes it very difficult to find companies that will
ship COD from the US. If I was to order I would only order COD from
now on from VoipSupply.
We are in Canada; we are authorised Digium, Grandstream, Sipura, and
Snom resellers; and we ship COD (within Canada).
I have
I feel I need to stand behind voipsupply.com here as well.We have
ordered several ATAs as we are starting up our VoIP business, and just
recently became a reseller with them.. so far we've had nothing but
success with them and love them.
___
I buy stuff from VoipSupply online, and will continue, they all were
smooth transactions.
Not need to flame them here. Canadian setup?
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We just bought (a couple weeks ago) Qty 6 Cisco Phones from them.
There was no licenses with the phones... Go figure... So,
evidently they're supposed to be new, and one would expect they come with
the license, but alas no license.
We discovered this during our initial purchase of a few Sipura
Perhaps your first issue was getting CISCO phones.. Why anyone would
give money to Cisco for phones is beyond me.. try some Sipura stuff..
Cisco just wants licenses for this.. licenses for that.. sorry.. no
support without license.. $15,000 for a 7200 VXR?!?!
On 5/25/05, Karl J. Vesterling [EMAIL
I have followed this thread but didn't say anything until I read this
one, since I think that the problems he had with VoipSupply.com were
the writers fault and not voipsupply.coms.
So here I start, I have purchased from voipsupply.com over 120 phones
(Polycom, Cisco, Sipura, Uniden) the last few
VoipSupply tech support is awesome... I'll second that
observation.
At 06:51 PM 5/25/2005, you wrote:
I have followed this thread but
didn't say anything until I read this
one, since I think that the problems he had with VoipSupply.com
were
the writers fault and not voipsupply.coms.
So here I
VoIPSupply has given me some of the best customer service I've ever
received ANYWHERE. period. I called their 800 number and spoke with
Dave (David?) and he advised me on purchases and hooked me up with
everything I wanted/needed!
Thanks VoIPSupply!
--
Tom Hayden
On 5/25/05, Karl J. Vesterling
All:
First let me thank everyone for the good words. It is much appreciated by
all of us at VoIPSupply.com. All of our numbers are up and working. There
are instances from time to time, when T's or PRI go down and we are
without phones services for a few minutes, but this is always kept to a
Lastly, we do charge for technical support. We are hear to help, but the
low margins on ATA's etc certainly does not leave us room to give away
free support. All of you that are ITSP's know exactly what I am talking
about.
If you order something, and you can't get it to work, you can pay
Being around the internet for a quite a long time this gives me an
uneasy feeling. I have seen companys start to go under and pull the
plug when they get into financial trouble(not being able to pay the
bills) and run with the customers money. I have had this happen to me
on 2
. Snip
It is sad to hear that you will not be purchasing from us. I do not
understand though, why we owe you an explanation for our toll free number
being down.
^^
You are right you don't owe any explanation at all for your numbers being
down. It was your Toll Free and
As I predicated there would be
someone posting a something to the effect about how is VoipSupply to deal
with then followed by people saying that the service is reliable ... etc.
As it happens, I just ordered from them a few weeks ago.
Sales, calling the tollfree, was helpful (duh, that *is*
I tried calling their toll free number and toll number last
week in the morning and afternoon and was handed a recording saying this number
is no longer in service. The web site was up but there was no message on
the site as to why the phone numbers were not working.
I just called the
mr. barker wrote:
I tried calling their toll free number and toll number last week in
the morning and afternoon and was handed a recording saying this
number is no longer in service. The web site was up but there was no
message on the site as to why the phone numbers were not working.
I just
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