Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-27 Thread Jerry
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 12:34:30PM +, Tim Panton wrote: Unless you are monitoring calls, want full CDR etc, then that's what you want anyway. CDR are not affected by how the audio flows. While technically true, I believe (it may have changed in 1.4) that if you allow reinvites, the

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-27 Thread Brad Templeton
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 01:55:31PM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 12:34:30PM +, Tim Panton wrote: Unless you are monitoring calls, want full CDR etc, then that's what you want anyway. CDR are not affected by how the audio flows. While technically true, I believe

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-26 Thread Tim Panton
On 25 Jan 2007, at 06:57, Brad Templeton wrote: On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:59:06AM +, Tim Panton wrote: In the meanwhile, use IAX, which understands about NAT pretty well. If you have multiple SIP phones on a LAN behind a NATing router, just put a small asterisk box on the LAN. It can

RE: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-26 Thread Ken Williams
, January 25, 2007 11:19 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions From: Brad Templeton [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a really dumb question. It appears that Yahoo, MSN, AIM, you name them, they don't have a NAT problem, and some use SIP. I don't think

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-26 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Yuan LIU wrote: Thanks for this information. Does this mean two IAX boxes can talk behind their respective NAT's (without any server sitting in voice path)? I'm imagining this: Asterisk1 -- NAT1 --- { Internet } --- NAT2 -- Asterisk2 Using IAX, yes. It's quite

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-26 Thread Julio Arruda
Gordon Henderson wrote: On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Yuan LIU wrote: Thanks for this information. Does this mean two IAX boxes can talk behind their respective NAT's (without any server sitting in voice path)? I'm imagining this: Asterisk1 -- NAT1 --- { Internet } --- NAT2 -- Asterisk2 Using

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-26 Thread Tim Panton
On 26 Jan 2007, at 06:19, Yuan LIU wrote: From: Brad Templeton [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a really dumb question. It appears that Yahoo, MSN, AIM, you name them, they don't have a NAT problem, and some use SIP. I don't think they all stay in voice path, either. What takes? When you

RE: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-26 Thread Yuan LIU
From:"Ken Williams" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Asterisk1 -- NAT1 --- { Internet } --- NAT2 -- Asterisk2 is one ofthe easiest configs to put together.Works extremely well and requiresopening a single port on each NAT. Now I realize that I took the wrong assumption that all NAT traversal is blind traversal.

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-26 Thread Brad Templeton
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 10:19:06PM -0800, Yuan LIU wrote: Asterisk1 -- NAT1 --- { Internet } --- NAT2 -- Asterisk2 If Asterisk1 can talk to Asterisk2 at trunk level, I'll be happy. While I'm not sure of what tricks * plays at all levels, you can certainly make this work if you have control of

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-26 Thread Brad Templeton
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 12:34:30PM +, Tim Panton wrote: For a remote phone, not on the same network as the Asterisk box (in which event the NAT worries are different) you definitely want to use the same protocol for the phone as for your term/orig provider. Otherwise you will be forced

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-25 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Yuan LIU wrote: I have a really dumb question. It appears that Yahoo, MSN, AIM, you name them, they don't have a NAT problem, and some use SIP. I don't think they all stay in voice path, either. What takes? Their SIP servers aren't behind NAT firewalls, so the problem

RE: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-25 Thread Robert Jenkins
-Original Message- Gordon Henderson Sent: 25 January 2007 08:17 On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Yuan LIU wrote: I have a really dumb question. It appears that Yahoo, MSN, AIM, you name them, they don't have a NAT problem, and some use SIP. I don't think they all stay in voice

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-25 Thread Brad Templeton
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 11:09:21PM -0800, Yuan LIU wrote: From: Brad Templeton [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:59:06AM +, Tim Panton wrote: In the meanwhile, use IAX, which understands about NAT pretty well. If you have multiple SIP phones on a LAN behind a NATing router,

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-25 Thread Yuan LIU
From: Brad Templeton [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a really dumb question. It appears that Yahoo, MSN, AIM, you name them, they don't have a NAT problem, and some use SIP. I don't think they all stay in voice path, either. What takes? When you control both ends of the path, you can eliminate

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-24 Thread Brad Templeton
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:59:06AM +, Tim Panton wrote: In the meanwhile, use IAX, which understands about NAT pretty well. If you have multiple SIP phones on a LAN behind a NATing router, just put a small asterisk box on the LAN. It can manage your hairpin calls internally, save you

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-24 Thread Yuan LIU
From: Brad Templeton [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:59:06AM +, Tim Panton wrote: In the meanwhile, use IAX, which understands about NAT pretty well. If you have multiple SIP phones on a LAN behind a NATing router, just put a small asterisk box on the LAN. It can manage your

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-22 Thread Tim Panton
On 21 Jan 2007, at 07:55, Brad Templeton wrote: Some NAT problems you can solve, some you never will. Many modern phones have NAT support in them, via STUN, or a static external IP address. Most NATs also offer port forwarding, so you can open a hole for the SIP port in the NAT so all

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-20 Thread Brad Templeton
Some NAT problems you can solve, some you never will. Many modern phones have NAT support in them, via STUN, or a static external IP address. Most NATs also offer port forwarding, so you can open a hole for the SIP port in the NAT so all outside can reach it. (With port forwarding, you need a

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-19 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Voip Asterisk wrote: I know that NAT is something no one really likes to talk about, but does anyone know how work with it elegantly? There are many providers which deal with it on a daily basis in fact they cater to it, is this possible to do with asterisk or does it

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-19 Thread Bernardo Vieira
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gordon Henderson wrote: If you only have one * box behind the NAT gateway then I don't really see a big issue with it to be honest. Port-forward on the firewall/router device (5060 and 1 through 2) to the * device, and use STUN on the

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-19 Thread Bob Chiodini
Bernardo Vieira wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gordon Henderson wrote: If you only have one * box behind the NAT gateway then I don't really see a big issue with it to be honest. Port-forward on the firewall/router device (5060 and 1 through 2) to the *

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-19 Thread Bernardo Vieira
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bernardo, Just a thought: Try using a different SIP port for one of the extensions, if possible. Bob... Bob, Tanks for the tip. I had actually done that before, as a matte of fact that's the solution I have in place now. The thing is, even

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-19 Thread Bob Chiodini
Bernardo Vieira wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bernardo, Just a thought: Try using a different SIP port for one of the extensions, if possible. Bob... Bob, Tanks for the tip. I had actually done that before, as a matte of fact that's the solution I have in

[asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-18 Thread Voip Asterisk
I know that NAT is something no one really likes to talk about, but does anyone know how work with it elegantly? There are many providers which deal with it on a daily basis in fact they cater to it, is this possible to do with asterisk or does it require other exotic setups? I even know of a

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-18 Thread Leo Ann Boon
Voip Asterisk wrote: I know that NAT is something no one really likes to talk about, but does anyone know how work with it elegantly? There are many providers which deal with it on a daily basis in fact they cater to it, is this possible to do with asterisk or does it require other exotic

Re: [asterisk-users] NAT solutions

2007-01-18 Thread Voip Asterisk
What about open sip stack: http://www.opensipstack.org/ ? Use a far end nat traversal appliance. Acmepacket , kagoor and Jasomi are some examples. Leo ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To