Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-05 Thread Tony Mountifield
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tilghman Lesher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 04 October 2007 07:07:47 Barzilai Spinak wrote: All this discussion is pointless. As pointless as the discussion of assembly versus high-level languages decades ago. As one of the main architects, I don't

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-05 Thread Steve Murphy
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 09:17 +, Tony Mountifield wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tilghman Lesher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 04 October 2007 07:07:47 Barzilai Spinak wrote: All this discussion is pointless. As pointless as the discussion of assembly versus high-level

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-05 Thread Michael Collins
I just got the 2nd edition Asterisk book from O'Reilly, and was surprised to find nothing in there about AEL, except a mention of extensions.ael on page 471. This is too bad. A preliminary chapter, an intro into AEL, why it's valuable, etc. would have been very welcome. Even an appendix of

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-05 Thread Stephen Bosch
Michael Collins wrote: I just got the 2nd edition Asterisk book from O'Reilly, and was surprised to find nothing in there about AEL, except a mention of extensions.ael on page 471. This is too bad. A preliminary chapter, an intro into AEL, why it's valuable, etc. would have been very

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-05 Thread Jared Smith
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 09:17 +, Tony Mountifield wrote: I just got the 2nd edition Asterisk book from O'Reilly, and was surprised to find nothing in there about AEL, except a mention of extensions.ael on page 471. That's because we were rushed on the book, and none of the authors has

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-05 Thread Jared Smith
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 08:40 -0700, Michael Collins wrote: This is too bad. A preliminary chapter, an intro into AEL, why it's valuable, etc. would have been very welcome. Even an appendix of a few pages with examples and references to on-line documentation would have been helpful. I don't

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-05 Thread Michael Collins
You know, you don't have to wait for the 3rd edition... you could always write something yourself and post it on the web, or join the (mostly dormant, unfortunately) Asterisk Documentation Project. :-) -Jared Well, I could, if I _could_! :) I was hoping to learn AEL from the new book... my

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-04 Thread Barzilai Spinak
All this discussion is pointless. As pointless as the discussion of assembly versus high-level languages decades ago. Except most people rooting for extension.conf don't even have the technical and conceptual amplitude to understand what they are talking about... they just want some telephony

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-04 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Thursday 04 October 2007 07:07:47 Barzilai Spinak wrote: All this discussion is pointless. As pointless as the discussion of assembly versus high-level languages decades ago. As one of the main architects, I don't find this discussion pointless. My personal opinion of AEL is that it's

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-03 Thread Brian West
In my opinion the dialplan isn't where that logic belongs. /b On Oct 3, 2007, at 12:32 AM, Yehavi Bourvine +972-8-9489444 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I see that most people are using the extensions.conf syntax (most of the examples and questions here use that syntax). recently

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-03 Thread Garth van Sittert
Where would you suggest all the logic goes Brian? Garth Garth van Sittert BSc (Physics Computer Science) - Main: 08600 BITCO Phone: +27 (0)11 875 6900 Fax:+27 (0)11 875 6901 Mobile: +27 (0)83 791 6662 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-03 Thread Brian West
You have various scripting languages things like that can go in! /b On Oct 3, 2007, at 4:12 AM, Garth van Sittert wrote: Where would you suggest all the logic goes Brian? Garth Garth van Sittert BSc (Physics Computer Science) - Main: 08600 BITCO Phone: +27 (0)11 875

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-03 Thread Lee Jenkins
Yehavi Bourvine +972-8-9489444 wrote: Hello, I see that most people are using the extensions.conf syntax (most of the examples and questions here use that syntax). recently I've translated all my dial plan to AEL syntax and I find it much easier, especially when you need IFs. Why

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-03 Thread Anthony Francis
Lee Jenkins wrote: Yehavi Bourvine +972-8-9489444 wrote: Hello, I see that most people are using the extensions.conf syntax (most of the examples and questions here use that syntax). recently I've translated all my dial plan to AEL syntax and I find it much easier, especially when

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-03 Thread Jon Schøpzinsky
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian West Sent: 3. oktober 2007 15:18 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL You have various scripting languages things like that can go

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-03 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling
Let us not forget that AEL cannot be stored in a database therefore rendering you unable to utilize realtime. AEL converted into standard extensions.conf syntax in the dialplan. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com--

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-03 Thread Brian West
On Oct 3, 2007, at 9:39 AM, Jon Schøpzinsky wrote: Wouldnt that take a very large portion of datapower, to startup the parsers and such, instead of having the whole dialplan natively in Asterisk. We always try to do as much as possible in dialplan, so that we are not reliant on external

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-03 Thread Doug Lytle
Lee Jenkins wrote: Why most people don't use it? Am I missing something? I think it looks too much like C. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-03 Thread Anthony Francis
Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote: Let us not forget that AEL cannot be stored in a database therefore rendering you unable to utilize realtime. AEL converted into standard extensions.conf syntax in the dialplan. Doesn't this render having used AEL pointless? -- Thank you and have a

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-03 Thread Brian West
Its just a different way to express the same thing in a more fluid way. /b On Oct 3, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Anthony Francis wrote: Doesn't this render having used AEL pointless? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com--

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-03 Thread Steve Totaro
To each his own. I like the flat files personally, they are more fluid to me. Thanks, Steve Brian West wrote: Its just a different way to express the same thing in a more fluid way. /b On Oct 3, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Anthony Francis wrote: Doesn't this render having used AEL pointless?

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-03 Thread Brian West
I'm growing fond of XML. /b On Oct 3, 2007, at 10:39 AM, Steve Totaro wrote: To each his own. I like the flat files personally, they are more fluid to me. Thanks, Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com--

Re: [asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-03 Thread Steve Murphy
On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 09:33 -0600, Anthony Francis wrote: Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote: Let us not forget that AEL cannot be stored in a database therefore rendering you unable to utilize realtime. AEL converted into standard extensions.conf syntax in the dialplan.

[asterisk-users] extensions.conf vs. AEL

2007-10-02 Thread Yehavi Bourvine +972-8-9489444
Hello, I see that most people are using the extensions.conf syntax (most of the examples and questions here use that syntax). recently I've translated all my dial plan to AEL syntax and I find it much easier, especially when you need IFs. Why most people don't use it? Am I missing