RE: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-12-01 Thread Edwin Silva
Silva WW Works Inc. 3060 Mainway Dr. Unit 104 Burlington, ON L7M 1A3 -Original Message- From: Mark Spencer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 12:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again) I am

RE: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-12-01 Thread Scott Stingel
http://www.evtmedia.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Silva Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 4:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-25 Thread Sri
unsubscribe Robert G. Werner wrote: The problem with -newbies (or even some PC name for it) is that people won't use it. Rarely do people self select themselves as more ignorant than they really are. I'm afraid the noob problem just can't be resolved with any structural changes.

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-23 Thread Richard Lyman
i believe the more accepted term is 'basics' as in asterisk-basics Grzegorz Nosek wrote: On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:54:15 -, Linus Surguy wrote So far it seems like the proposed candidates for new lists are: asterisk-newbies (perhaps a better word?) Maybe asterisk-install ?

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-22 Thread Olle E. Johansson
The amount of mail on asterisk-users is more than even *I* can read in a day, and my job is 100% asterisk. There probably is a justification for a new list, but I think it is less the -biz list as much as much as the -newbies. Keeping a business discussion on -users is probably quite useful

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-22 Thread Grzegorz Nosek
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:54:15 -, Linus Surguy wrote So far it seems like the proposed candidates for new lists are: asterisk-newbies (perhaps a better word?) Maybe asterisk-install ? asterisk-starters ? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list

Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread Mark Spencer
Amen! While -dev and -users may be a little too sparse, perhaps adding a -business list would be beneficial for discussing those types of issues. However business-related issues are not so common at this point, so perhaps a list devoted to NONTECHNICAL discussion (-nontech?) would be

RE: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread David Gomillion
who puts in the time to assist their friends. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Spencer Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 8:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread Linus Surguy
So far it seems like the proposed candidates for new lists are: asterisk-newbies (perhaps a better word?) Maybe asterisk-install ? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread WipeOut
Mark Spencer wrote: Amen! While -dev and -users may be a little too sparse, perhaps adding a -business list would be beneficial for discussing those types of issues. However business-related issues are not so common at this point, so perhaps a list devoted to NONTECHNICAL discussion (-nontech?)

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
So far it seems like the proposed candidates for new lists are: asterisk-newbies (perhaps a better word?) asterisk-nontech asterisk-biz The amount of mail on asterisk-users is more than even *I* can read in a day, and my job is 100% asterisk. There probably is a justification for a new

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread Ken Godee
Mark Spencer wrote: Amen! While -dev and -users may be a little too sparse, perhaps adding a -business list would be beneficial for discussing those types of issues. However business-related issues are not so common at this point, so perhaps a list devoted to NONTECHNICAL discussion (-nontech?)

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread Philipp von Klitzing
Hi! So far it seems like the proposed candidates for new lists are: asterisk-newbies (perhaps a better word?) asterisk-nontech asterisk-biz Hm... who will answer the newbie questions then? Newbies? Not sure the -biz part will make sense, but I guess it won't hurt much to have it and then

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread John Todd
So far it seems like the proposed candidates for new lists are: asterisk-newbies (perhaps a better word?) asterisk-nontech asterisk-biz The amount of mail on asterisk-users is more than even *I* can read in a day, and my job is 100% asterisk. There probably is a justification for a new

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread Rich Adamson
So far it seems like the proposed candidates for new lists are: asterisk-newbies (perhaps a better word?) asterisk-nontech asterisk-biz Any others as well? If we were to add another list, I *believe* we could automatically subscribe everyone in -users to -whatever to help seed it a

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 09:01, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: So far it seems like the proposed candidates for new lists are: asterisk-newbies (perhaps a better word?) asterisk-nontech asterisk-biz The amount of mail on asterisk-users is more than even *I* can read in a day, and my job is

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Thursday 20 November 2003 08:53, David Gomillion wrote: Would a -softphone and -hardphone be too granular? Sometimes I just don't have the energy to sift through hundreds of messages... I would applaud such a move, but be sure to note that hardphone refers to VoIP phones, differentiating

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread Robert G. Werner
The problem with -newbies (or even some PC name for it) is that people won't use it. Rarely do people self select themselves as more ignorant than they really are. I'm afraid the noob problem just can't be resolved with any structural changes. Personally, I don't try to read the whole

RE: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread Andy Hester
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again) So far it seems like the proposed candidates for new lists are: asterisk-newbies (perhaps a better word?) asterisk-nontech

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread Chris Albertson
As soon as you have more then one list people will ask What list do I post this to. Many will cross post. One idea is to make up a small example set of questions that should go to each list. You might also name the lists after the questions that are alowed in each. Such as -configuration

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread Chris Albertson
Add to the list or lists I proposed one more asterisk-anounce This one would be low volume and would be used mostly by the people at Digium I think but also others you have developed some new feature or fixed a bug or fund a security hole. there would be no discussion on this list. currently

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
Looking at the current traffice on -users it might make more sense to create - asterisk-zaptel - asterisk-sip - asterisk-iax and leave whatever remains to asterisk-users. I'd disagree with this -- You'd have a lot of crossposting because people won't know where the problem lies... i.e. a

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread asterisk
On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 09:49:10AM -0600, Rich Adamson wrote: What's the problem that we're trying to fix? (Fragmenting the lists into more so we don't have to look at one or more lists, or, is it reducing the number of repetitive newbie postings?) I think it was keeping commercials,

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread asterisk
On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 10:57:08AM -0600, Steven Critchfield wrote: While I seem to be deemed the newbie basher, I have already expressed similar sentiment to Mark once before. I think newbies are better served in -users as there are people here who will answer the question, even if it is to

RE: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread Steven Critchfield
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Todd Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again) So far it seems like the proposed candidates for new lists

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 12:43, Chris Albertson wrote: Add to the list or lists I proposed one more asterisk-anounce This one would be low volume and would be used mostly by the people at Digium I think but also others you have developed some new feature or fixed a bug or fund a security

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread Sean P. Robertson
- Original Message - From: Andy Hester [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 1:06 PM Subject: RE: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again) I agree, seperate digium list is best. Mainly because it will help build

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 12:48, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: Looking at the current traffice on -users it might make more sense to create - asterisk-zaptel - asterisk-sip - asterisk-iax and leave whatever remains to asterisk-users. I'd disagree with this -- You'd have a lot of crossposting

RE: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread daryl
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Albertson Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 1:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again) [...] Some problems

Re: Asterisk Lists (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Business discussion again)

2003-11-20 Thread Mark Spencer
I am not sure a newbies list would help all that much, all that would happen is that they would cross post to both lists and we would get everything twice.. What may be better would be either a better way to search the list archive or a new users FAQ, of course the FAQ option requires that