Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith

2005-06-12 Thread Dave Cotton
On Sat, 2005-06-11 at 23:16 -0400, C F wrote: On 6/10/05, Dave Cotton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 16:00 -0400, list wrote: according to RFC's your required to have reverse lookups on ur mail server, so blocking based on this is perfectly legitimate. Really? Which

Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith - Seriously OT

2005-06-12 Thread Mark Musone
it is NOT required that reverse DNS is setup. get your facts straight. On 6/10/05, Neal Walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, June 10, 2005 3:16 AM, Andrew Kohlsmith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 10 June 2005 04:08, Terry H. Gilsenan wrote: Received: from source

Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith

2005-06-12 Thread C F
Sorry. On 6/12/05, Dave Cotton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2005-06-11 at 23:16 -0400, C F wrote: On 6/10/05, Dave Cotton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 16:00 -0400, list wrote: according to RFC's your required to have reverse lookups on ur mail server, so

RE: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith - Seriously OT

2005-06-12 Thread Terry H. Gilsenan
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Musone Sent: Monday, 13 June 2005 5:40 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith - Seriously OT it is NOT required

Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith

2005-06-11 Thread Bob Goddard
to not being registered in the DNS at all. Please do not top post. should != must - it is not illegal. - Original Message - From: Mark Musone To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith

Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith

2005-06-11 Thread Tracy Phillips
should != must - it is not illegal. True. However, RFC's are in place to make sure we all play by the same rules. If we all play by the same rules things on the internet tend to work as expected. I like things to work as expected, don't you? The reason most people (myself included) block mail

RE: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith

2005-06-11 Thread Dean Collins
, 11 June 2005 9:57 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith should != must - it is not illegal. True. However, RFC's are in place to make sure we all play by the same rules. If we all play by the same rules things

Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith

2005-06-11 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Saturday 11 June 2005 09:56, Tracy Phillips wrote: True. However, RFC's are in place to make sure we all play by the same rules. If we all play by the same rules things on the internet tend to work as expected. I like things to work as expected, don't you? That is *precisely* why the RFC is

Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith

2005-06-11 Thread Tracy Phillips
I am just glad everyone doesn't have that attitude about RFCs. --Tracy On 6/11/05, Andrew Kohlsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 11 June 2005 09:56, Tracy Phillips wrote: True. However, RFC's are in place to make sure we all play by the same rules. If we all play by the same rules

Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith

2005-06-11 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Saturday 11 June 2005 11:35, Tracy Phillips wrote: That is *precisely* why the RFC is worded should -- it is optional. If the RFC said must then it is required. RFCs are worded very carefully as a general rule. I am just glad everyone doesn't have that attitude about RFCs. I'm not

RE: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith

2005-06-11 Thread Robert Webb
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Kohlsmith Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 11:58 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith On Saturday 11 June 2005 11:35, Tracy Phillips wrote

RE: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith (way OT)

2005-06-11 Thread Jay Milk
I think you're looking for RFC 2119 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt -Original Message- From: Andrew Kohlsmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not sure I understand -- I'm not making this up, RFCs use must and should very carefully. The latter is a guideline, and the former

Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith

2005-06-11 Thread Bob Goddard
On Saturday 11 Jun 2005 14:56, Tracy Phillips wrote: [...] I wonder if there is an RFC from top posting? I doubt it... seems the rest of the world can get along fine reading top posts... rfc1855 details the netiquette guidelines. From paragraph 3.1.1 If you are sending a reply to a message

Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith

2005-06-11 Thread Mr. James W. Laferriere
Hello All , RFC = Request For Comments . STD = Standards Track Document(s) . Hth , JimL On Sat, 11 Jun 2005, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Saturday 11 June 2005 11:35, Tracy Phillips wrote: That is *precisely* why the RFC is worded should -- it is

Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith

2005-06-11 Thread C F
On 6/10/05, Dave Cotton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 16:00 -0400, list wrote: according to RFC's your required to have reverse lookups on ur mail server, so blocking based on this is perfectly legitimate. Really? Which one? required? Can you please include a link to this

Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith

2005-06-10 Thread Dave Cotton
On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 16:00 -0400, list wrote: according to RFC's your required to have reverse lookups on ur mail server, so blocking based on this is perfectly legitimate. My ISP has the option of reverse lookups, I still get blocked by some other ISPs :( -- Dave Cotton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith - Seriously OT

2005-06-10 Thread Terry H. Gilsenan
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Cotton Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 5:29 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 16:00 -0400, list

Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith - Seriously OT

2005-06-10 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Friday 10 June 2005 04:08, Terry H. Gilsenan wrote: Received: from source ([81.56.129.44]) by exprod5mx8.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 00:29:16 PDT Your MTA claimed it was called SOURCE but rDNS tells the recipient MX that it is called: mail.linuxautrement.com I

RE: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith - Seriously OT

2005-06-10 Thread Terry H. Gilsenan
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Kohlsmith Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 8:16 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith - Seriously OT On Friday 10 June 2005 04:08, Terry H. Gilsenan

Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith - Seriously OT

2005-06-10 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Friday 10 June 2005 07:34, Terry H. Gilsenan wrote: Your server your rules, however in this day of increasing trojan SMTP engined boxes, you should expect to get les and less deliverability. I fail to see how a reverse pointer that == forward record means a more reliable message. How many

RE: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith - Seriously OT

2005-06-10 Thread Neal Walton
On Friday, June 10, 2005 3:16 AM, Andrew Kohlsmith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 10 June 2005 04:08, Terry H. Gilsenan wrote: Received: from source ([81.56.129.44]) by exprod5mx8.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 00:29:16 PDT Your MTA claimed it was

Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith

2005-06-10 Thread Sean Kennedy
] To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith Matt wrote: I apologize for sending this to the list. Keith from Hazleton... your mail server is rejecting mail I'm sending you from my mail servers, as well as from gmail... you

Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith

2005-06-10 Thread Mark Musone
on this is perfectly legitimate. -jon - Original Message - From: Sean Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: KeithMatt wrote: I apologize for sending this to the list. Keith from

Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith

2005-06-10 Thread list
stered in the DNS at all." - Original Message - From: Mark Musone To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith exactly what RFC is this???rfc2821 specifical

Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith

2005-06-09 Thread Sean Kennedy
Matt wrote: I apologize for sending this to the list. Keith from Hazleton... your mail server is rejecting mail I'm sending you from my mail servers, as well as from gmail... you may really want to consider using a different blacklist.. the on you are using now is going to block almost

RE: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith

2005-06-09 Thread Dean Collins
: Thursday, 9 June 2005 2:29 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith Matt wrote: I apologize for sending this to the list. Keith from Hazleton... your mail server is rejecting mail I'm sending you from my mail servers, as well as from gmail... you may

Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith

2005-06-09 Thread list
: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith Matt wrote: I apologize for sending this to the list. Keith from Hazleton... your mail server is rejecting mail I'm sending you from my mail servers, as well as from gmail... you may really want to consider using a different blacklist.. the on you are using now is going

RE: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith

2005-06-09 Thread Huddleston, Robert
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of list Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:01 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ATTN: Keith according to RFC's your required to have reverse lookups