RE: [Asterisk-Users] Router with QoS recommendations

2005-04-04 Thread Shaoul Jacobson - TELLINK
Hi, QoS is nice (and important) but only works within a FULLY controlled end to end link. Inside a BIG enterprise LAN, on leased lines its OK. Using end to end MPLS should also be ok Mind that some provider sell MPLS but it is not their own MPLS end to end. Going from one provider on MPLS to

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Router with QoS recommendations

2005-04-04 Thread tim panton
On 4 Apr 2005, at 09:25, Shaoul Jacobson - TELLINK wrote: Hi, QoS is nice (and important) but only works within a FULLY controlled end to end link. Inside a BIG enterprise LAN, on leased lines its OK. Using end to end MPLS should also be ok Mind that some provider sell MPLS but it is not their

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Router with QoS recommendations

2005-04-04 Thread Shaoul Jacobson - TELLINK
Hi, I'm not sure I totally agree. Good, we do agree on some :) I also agree with some of your remarks (no flame war) It is also useful if you control the narrowest pipe. I agree. But I disagree about the definition of the narrowest pipe. A well configured router there will slow outgoing

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Router with QoS recommendations

2005-04-04 Thread Bruno Hertz
tim panton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 4 Apr 2005, at 09:25, Shaoul Jacobson - TELLINK wrote: Hi, QoS is nice (and important) but only works within a FULLY controlled end to end link. Inside a BIG enterprise LAN, on leased lines its OK. Using end to end MPLS should also be ok Mind that

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Router with QoS recommendations

2005-04-04 Thread David McNett
On 03-Apr-2005, Tim Pushor wrote: I prefer PF's approach to security first, convenience second, and I *really* like the fact that PF has a real parser. As the requements get more complex, having everything in one file, and very readable and structured is a huge plus. Also, the integration

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Router with QoS recommendations

2005-04-04 Thread Tim Pushor
I'm not sure about QoS, but I do run ATLQ on FreeBSD/PF. In a SOHO environment where there is likely to be DSL or cable, I find it very useful (on the upload side at least, which is usually a problem on asyncrhonous connections). I can max out my pipe and hear no effect of it on the phone.

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Router with QoS recommendations

2005-04-04 Thread Arnaud PIGNARD
At 15:36 04/04/2005, you wrote: On 03-Apr-2005, Tim Pushor wrote: I prefer PF's approach to security first, convenience second, and I *really* like the fact that PF has a real parser. As the requements get more complex, having everything in one file, and very readable and structured is a huge

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Router with QoS recommendations

2005-04-04 Thread James H. Thompson
-Commercial Discussion Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 3:57 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Router with QoS recommendations At 15:36 04/04/2005, you wrote:On 03-Apr-2005, Tim Pushor wrote: I prefer PF's approach to security first, convenience second, and I *really* like the fact

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Router with QoS recommendations

2005-04-04 Thread Tim Pushor
I'd be willing to write something up on integrating pf with * behind a NAT using ALTQ for traffic shaping if anyone is interested. It'd probably take me a couple weeks though .. Tim James H. Thompson wrote: Any FreeBSD/OpenBSD solutions we should add to the list at the bottom of this page?

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Router with QoS recommendations

2005-04-04 Thread Cameron Beattie
, April 05, 2005 3:38 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Router with QoS recommendations I'd be willing to write something up on integrating pf with * behind a NAT using ALTQ for traffic shaping if anyone is interested. It'd probably take me a couple weeks though .. Tim James H. Thompson wrote: Any

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Router with QoS recommendations

2005-04-03 Thread Philipp von Klitzing
Hi! As I have a Cisco PIX 515, with NO QoS functionality, and I™m looking for a router that does outgoing QoS to put in front of my PIX. Problem is that I™m using my 768/8096Kbit ADSL for both data and VoIP, and as soon as data is being sent to the internet the sound quality drops to

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Router with QoS recommendations

2005-04-03 Thread NVC List Manager
On Sunday 03 April 2005 06:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List As I have a Cisco PIX 515, with NO QoS functionality, and I'm looking for a router that does outgoing QoS to put in front of my PIX. Problem is that I'm using my 768/8096Kbit ADSL for both data and VoIP, and as soon as data is

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Router with QoS recommendations

2005-04-03 Thread Tim Pushor
NVC List Manager wrote: As usual there's nothing that will beat OpenBSD. Takes 15 minutes to build following the instructions on the CD cover. To someone who has never installed OpenBSD (or FreeBSD + pf for that matter) the learning curve is going to be much much higher than 15 minutes,

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Router with QoS recommendations

2005-04-03 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On April 3, 2005 08:13 am, Tim Pushor wrote: To someone who has never installed OpenBSD (or FreeBSD + pf for that matter) the learning curve is going to be much much higher than 15 minutes, although one you learn PF you will never go back! I've never seen the great advantage to pf over ip and

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Router with QoS recommendations

2005-04-03 Thread Irakli Natsvlishvili
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 3:33 AM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Router with QoS recommendations As I have a Cisco PIX 515, with NO QoS functionality, and I'm looking for a router that does outgoing QoS to put in front of my PIX. PixOS

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Router with QoS recommendations

2005-04-03 Thread Tim Pushor
iptables looks very powerful, thats for sure. I prefer PF's approach to security first, convenience second, and I *really* like the fact that PF has a real parser. As the requements get more complex, having everything in one file, and very readable and structured is a huge plus. Also, the