Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Shielding of T1/E1 cables WAS RE: Pinouts for T1/E1 crossover

2006-04-24 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Monday 24 April 2006 11:42, Ken Godee wrote: cat5 is NOT T1 cable and if any telco/vendor tried to install it in my location I'd have them pull it and put in the proper cabling. T1 cable is generally Cat3 is it not? That's certainly how the old T1s loops were run between the CO and the

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Shielding of T1/E1 cables WAS RE: Pinouts for T1/E1 crossover

2006-04-24 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: Insulation (especially such thin insulation) does not prevent crosstalk. Distance, shielding and tighter twists do. Ever looked at the underground cable in the street outside your building? If it's more than 20 years old, it's probably paper-insulated gel-filled

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Shielding of T1/E1 cables WAS RE: Pinouts for T1/E1 crossover

2006-04-24 Thread Rich Adamson
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Monday 24 April 2006 11:42, Ken Godee wrote: cat5 is NOT T1 cable and if any telco/vendor tried to install it in my location I'd have them pull it and put in the proper cabling. T1 cable is generally Cat3 is it not? That's certainly how the old T1s loops were run

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Shielding of T1/E1 cables WAS RE: Pinouts for T1/E1 crossover

2006-04-24 Thread Steve Underwood
Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: Insulation (especially such thin insulation) does not prevent crosstalk. Distance, shielding and tighter twists do. Ever looked at the underground cable in the street outside your building? If it's more than 20 years old, it's

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Shielding of T1/E1 cables WAS RE: Pinouts for T1/E1 crossover

2006-04-24 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Monday 24 April 2006 12:42, Rich Adamson wrote: The T1/E1 interface spec's are typically 75 ohm balanced (BNC, E1), 100 ohm balanced, etc. Ahh yes, this is true. Is that a typical spec for even POTS lines? I've never bothered to check to see if cat5 cables use the appropriate mating

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Shielding of T1/E1 cables WAS RE: Pinouts for T1/E1 crossover

2006-04-24 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Rich Adamson wrote: I've never bothered to check to see if cat5 cables use the appropriate mating twisted pairs or not. Since the pinouts are different for cat5 vs T1 cables, I'd have to guess a single strand is used from two different twisted pair groups. That wouldn't be cool, but in short

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Shielding of T1/E1 cables WAS RE: Pinouts for T1/E1 crossover

2006-04-24 Thread Don Pobanz
Rich Adamson wrote: I've never bothered to check to see if cat5 cables use the appropriate mating twisted pairs or not. Since the pinouts are different for cat5 vs T1 cables, I'd have to guess a single strand is used from two different twisted pair groups. That wouldn't be cool, but in short