--- Richard Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Asterisk was being used for TDM based PSTN switching before if even
supported SIP. There is therefore nothing strange about it using
hardware based timing. I don't see the relevance of VoIP transmission
to
the discussion. Sure you can squirt it
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 11:34, Chris Albertson wrote:
--- Richard Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Asterisk was being used for TDM based PSTN switching before if even
supported SIP. There is therefore nothing strange about it using
hardware based timing. I don't see the relevance of VoIP
How many examples of VOIP music systems that don't use
a hardware timmer card do you need?
I think my point then was that Asterisk isn't a VoIP music system.
It is a PBX which initially supported TDM based telephony. It now does
have some support for VoIP and there are certainly other ways of
Now can this waste of a thread die, or does someone have to invoke
Godwins law directly.
1. It's not a waste of a thread. This is good stuff to discuss but I agree
that it's been beaten to death.
2. You can't invoke Goodwin's law to purposely kill a thread. I forget the
corollary's name
rnc Info Lists wrote:
Its a free world and everyone is entitled to their opinion. Here's mine
on this topic. The cards aren't so expensive (99.95 USD). If they have
their own hardware then they don't have to depend on the target system
having a particular configuration. Example: right
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 23:50, Chris Albertson wrote:
If the software needs a specialcard to keep time then the
software is broken or poorly designed.
Don't complain so loudly unless you're willing to contribute the
fixes. Opinions are like assholes, and you know where that's going.
Takes
Adam Hart wrote:
From: Anton Tinchev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 1:06 PM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Digium should develop and sell just Dummy card.
For timing...
I'm first to buy 5 pack. Even for $30.
Doesn't ztdummy already do
If the software needs a specialcard to keep time then the
software is broken or poorly designed.
Don't complain so loudly unless you're willing to contribute the
fixes. Opinions are like assholes, and you know where that's going.
Takes something else entirely to fix a perceived problem.
rnc Info Lists wrote:
Its a free world and everyone is entitled to their opinion. Here's mine
on this topic. The cards aren't so expensive (99.95 USD). If they have
their own hardware then they don't have to depend on the target system
having a particular configuration. Example: right now I
Its a free world and everyone is entitled to their opinion. Here's mine
on this topic. The cards aren't so expensive (99.95 USD). If they have
their own hardware then they don't have to depend on the target system
having a particular configuration. Example: right now I am running * on
a
The only thing that is wrong is that there seems to be some expectation of
Digium that they have to tell things... The source code is available. If
someone isn't happy with the Digium methods then they should find a
solution and post it to the list and/or one of the several Asterisk Wiki's
that
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 09:17, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
Its a free world and everyone is entitled to their opinion. Here's mine
on this topic. The cards aren't so expensive (99.95 USD). If they have
their own hardware then they don't have to depend on the target system
having a particular
Are there USB PCI cards that use the chip that's compatible with
ztdummy?
So now you're using a $50 USB PCI card, or a $100 FXO/FXS card... you're
adding stuff to the system either way. :-)
Personally I really like the RTC dummy driver. It just locks the alarm at
1024Hz and calls the
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 11:56, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
Some one else here has mentioned the quality of software design due to
the need for hardware timing. This should be addressed by the fact that
many tools are using hardware timing. Mp3 players use the sound device
as a timing source.
Was I that particular poster? Maybe. But yes! there is
absolutly no need for specialized hardware to meter an 8Ksps
stream out of a PC.
Your example of a MP3 player depending on the hardware is valid but
what about a video player? What does it use to keep a constant
30FPS rate?
Now
Steven,
Good comments but remember good enginerring starts with reading
the requirements and desiging to those requirements.
in the case of SIP at least these is an RFC. What is the
timming requirement on media packets? How is the stream
synchronized? I'll read it in the next few days but
Why make additional hardware whose driver needs be ported to other
systems when you can make similar dummy interfaces? What happens to the
systems that don't have PCI buses. I can think of some older MAC
hardware that can run linux, but not PCI cards. Not that I would bother
my self with one
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 12:50, Chris Albertson wrote:
Steven,
Good comments but remember good enginerring starts with reading
the requirements and desiging to those requirements.
in the case of SIP at least these is an RFC. What is the
timming requirement on media packets? How is the
Andrew,
I am running it rather well on a original Pentium 100 Mhz, 32 MB RAM, no
USB adapter. I agree with you this would not be an ideal setup for a
business but in a home it will work rather well. I think it'll handle 2 CO
analog lines fine.
Yes, my wife thinks its overkill. Probably is, but
Chris,
Good point. As I understand it, the Asterisk software requirement was to
be a PBX between normal telephone lines and VoIP. Maybe even it was just
to replace the expensive PBXs. As such seems to me that it clearly met
and exceeded its design requirements since it utilizes the hardware
Lets see if I understand this logic. I'll restate it:
1) Asterisk's MOH is only broken if you attempt to build a
VOIP-only system
2) Asterisk is not intended for such use. It is a PSTN
oriented PBX that just happens to handle VOIP.
3) Therefore Asterisk is not broken
OK. If you believe
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 13:57, Chris Albertson wrote:
Lets see if I understand this logic. I'll restate it:
1) Asterisk's MOH is only broken if you attempt to build a
VOIP-only system
Supposedly this was fixed recently. As I don't use MOH, nor am I ever in
a VoIP only system I can't
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 13:57, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
Are there USB PCI cards that use the chip that's compatible with
ztdummy?
So now you're using a $50 USB PCI card, or a $100 FXO/FXS card... you're
adding stuff to the system either way. :-)
Personally I really like the RTC dummy
I'm first to buy 5 pack. Even for $30.
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If the software needs a specialcard to keep time then the
software is broken or poorly designed.
I've written software to control a kind of video camera.
(actualy TDI or drift scan that takes still pictures of
moving abojects.)
that worked at the very low level and in software ganerated
the
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