Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014: Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI (Ben Klang)

2014-10-30 Thread Paul Albrecht
On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Ben Klang bkl...@mojolingo.com wrote: On 10/28/2014 06:03 PM, Ben Langfeld wrote: On 28 October 2014 19:47, Derek Andrew derek.and...@usask.ca wrote: What is the alternative to the dial plan? Is everyone talking about getting rid of the statements like: exten

Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014: Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI(Ben Klang)

2014-10-30 Thread Paul Albrecht
On Oct 29, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Matthew Jordan mjor...@digium.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Paul Albrecht palbre...@glccom.com wrote: On Oct 28, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Ben Langfeld b...@langfeld.me wrote: On 28 October 2014 19:47, Derek Andrew derek.and...@usask.ca wrote: What is

Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014: Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI (Ben Klang)

2014-10-29 Thread Paul Albrecht
On Oct 28, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Ben Langfeld b...@langfeld.me wrote: On 28 October 2014 19:47, Derek Andrew derek.and...@usask.ca wrote: What is the alternative to the dial plan? Is everyone talking about getting rid of the statements like: exten = s,1, what is the alternative? Remote

Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014: Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI (Ben Klang)

2014-10-28 Thread Paul Albrecht
Not asking for unqualified promises about the future of Asterisk. Simply asking for an acknowledgment of the obvious, that is, Asterisk without the dial plan wouldn’t be Asterisk. The fact that one is not forthcoming raises a red flag with respect to the future of Asterisk. Furthermore, adding

Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014:Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI (Ben Klang)

2014-10-27 Thread Paul Albrecht
The reason the dial plan can never be deprecated is because Asterisk wouldn’t be Asterisk without the dial plan. Sure, you could re-engineer Asterisk so that it would be “better for a small select group of users at the expense of the majority of community that use the product as designed for

Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014:Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI(Ben Klang)

2014-10-24 Thread Paul Albrecht
On Oct 23, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Kevin Larsen kevin.lar...@pioneerballoon.com wrote: From: Paul Albrecht palbre...@glccom.com Seems like now is as good a time as any to raise these issues, in fact, sooner is better than later because once developers start down a path it’s very difficult

Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014:Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI(Ben Klang)

2014-10-23 Thread Paul Albrecht
On Oct 22, 2014, at 3:27 PM, Kevin Larsen kevin.lar...@pioneerballoon.com wrote: From: Paul Albrecht palbre...@glccom.com Here’s a link to the minutes: https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/ display/AST/AstriDevCon+2014 It has you saying: Leif: we're in a transition, moving from dialplan

Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014: Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI(Ben Klang)

2014-10-23 Thread Paul Albrecht
On Oct 22, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Jordan mjor...@digium.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Paul Albrecht palbre...@glccom.com wrote: On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:31 AM, Matthew Jordan mjor...@digium.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Paul Albrecht palbre...@glccom.com

Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014: Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI(Ben Klang)

2014-10-23 Thread Paul Albrecht
On Oct 23, 2014, at 1:55 AM, Olle E Johansson o...@edvina.net wrote: It is critical that a group of developers ask themself questions along these lines - what if??? - What if we removed AGi and AMI? - What if we made a pluggable PBX? - What if we restarted working on a SIP channel? -

Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014:Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI(Ben Klang)

2014-10-23 Thread Kevin Larsen
From: Paul Albrecht palbre...@glccom.com Seems like now is as good a time as any to raise these issues, in fact, sooner is better than later because once developers start down a path it’s very difficult to get them change their minds no matter how much sense it makes. The fact that

Re: [asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014: Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI(Ben Klang)

2014-10-23 Thread Matthew Jordan
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Paul Albrecht palbre...@glccom.com wrote: On Oct 23, 2014, at 1:55 AM, Olle E Johansson o...@edvina.net wrote: It is critical that a group of developers ask themself questions along these lines - what if??? - What if we removed AGi and AMI? - What if

[asterisk-users] AstriDevCon 2014: Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI (Ben Klang)

2014-10-22 Thread Paul Albrecht
Really? Shouldn’t something this major affecting the entire Asterisk community get discussed on the lists? Any idea what Leif is talking about when he says the community is in transition, moving from dial plan model to external control? Here’s a link to the notes posted on the Asterisk wiki: