Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-18 Thread Drew Gibson
David fire wrote: you are soamming my mail box whit this useless discution the solution is doble posting (top and bottom) 2008/12/17 Andrew Kohlsmith (lists) akli...@mixdown.ca mailto:akli...@mixdown.ca On December 17, 2008 05:03:00 pm Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote: To me top

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-17 Thread Bill Andersen
- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Gergo Csibra Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 8:41 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-17 Thread Barry L. Kline
Bill Andersen wrote: In the order in which people normally read text they don't repeat the entire conversation from the beginning each time a question is asked either... Bottom posting is just as bad! ./bill Not when you take the time to properly trim your reply it's not. BK

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-17 Thread David fire
2008/12/17 Barry L. Kline blkl...@attglobal.net Bill Andersen wrote: In the order in which people normally read text they don't repeat the entire conversation from the beginning each time a question is asked either... Bottom posting is just as bad! ./bill Not when you take the time

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-17 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 07:03:15PM -0200, David fire wrote: 2008/12/17 Barry L. Kline blkl...@attglobal.net Bill Andersen wrote: In the order in which people normally read text they don't repeat the entire conversation from the beginning each time a question is asked either...

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-17 Thread Eric ManxPower Wieling
Barry L. Kline wrote: Bill Andersen wrote: In the order in which people normally read text they don't repeat the entire conversation from the beginning each time a question is asked either... Bottom posting is just as bad! ./bill Not when you take the time to properly trim your reply

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-17 Thread Eberhard Roloff
On 12/17/2008 Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote: You're not going to be able to make people stop top posting and I'm not going to be able to make people stop using wrong or misleading terms like SIP Trunk. If you try all you are going to do is piss people off and stress yourself out. Why

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-17 Thread Danny Nicholas
...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Eberhard Roloff Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:18 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design] On 12/17/2008 Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote: You're not going

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-17 Thread Justin Fletcher
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Bill Andersen ander...@mwdental.comwrote: In the order in which people normally read text they don't repeat the entire conversation from the beginning each time a question is asked either... Bottom posting is just as bad! ./bill Posting either way can be

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-17 Thread Paul Hales
In the order in which people normally read text they don't repeat the entire conversation from the beginning each time a question is asked either... Bottom posting is just as bad! I am strongly against anyone posting anything with their bottom. later, PaulH

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-17 Thread RE Kushner List Account
Paul Hales wrote: In the order in which people normally read text they don't repeat the entire conversation from the beginning each time a question is asked either... Bottom posting is just as bad! I am strongly against anyone posting anything with their bottom. How about

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-17 Thread Steve Edwards
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Danny Nicholas wrote: OSUR GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE PEOPLE STOP POSTING. IF DIGIUM GETS ENOUGH OF THESE STUPID HITS, THEY WILL CUT THIS OFF. I KNOW I'M SHOUTING, I'M @#$###$# TIRED OF INTERRUPTING IMPORTANT WORK TO READ NOTHING. THAT'S WHAT MSN IS FOR. Spoken like a true

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-17 Thread RE Kushner List Account
RE Kushner List Account wrote: Paul Hales wrote: In the order in which people normally read text they don't repeat the entire conversation from the beginning each time a question is asked either... Bottom posting is just as bad! I am strongly against anyone posting

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-17 Thread SIP
Steve Edwards wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Danny Nicholas wrote: OSUR GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE PEOPLE STOP POSTING. IF DIGIUM GETS ENOUGH OF THESE STUPID HITS, THEY WILL CUT THIS OFF. I KNOW I'M SHOUTING, I'M @#$###$# TIRED OF INTERRUPTING IMPORTANT WORK TO READ NOTHING. THAT'S WHAT MSN

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-17 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith (lists)
On December 17, 2008 05:03:00 pm Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote: To me top posting is like people talking about SIP Trunks. There is no such thing as a SIP Trunk. There are SIP connections, peers, friends, etc. The term is simply a marketing buzzword to make people that don't know much about

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-17 Thread David fire
you are soamming my mail box whit this useless discution the solution is doble posting (top and bottom) 2008/12/17 Andrew Kohlsmith (lists) akli...@mixdown.ca On December 17, 2008 05:03:00 pm Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote: To me top posting is like people talking about SIP Trunks. There is

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-17 Thread Darryl Dunkin
, that is on topic. -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of SIP Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 15:44 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-17 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith (lists)
On December 17, 2008 06:59:19 pm David fire wrote: you are soamming my mail box whit this useless discution the solution is doble posting (top and bottom) It's a public mailing list. If you're having trouble managing it, you may want to try a digest version, or perhaps a moderated list. -A.

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-17 Thread Steve Edwards
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Darryl Dunkin wrote: Steve Edwards wrote: Top posting. Bottom posting. Honestly, if you can't use an effing scrollbar, please tell me so I can take you out back and beat you to death with something heavy. The .5 seconds it takes to scroll from one end of a message to

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-11 Thread Andrew Thomas
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David fire Sent: 06 December 2008 03:12 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design] is enougth of this pointless topic... you are spammers now... 2008/12/6 Bob Gustafson [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-11 Thread Danny Nicholas
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Thomas Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:59 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design] Well, it seems this opened one large can of worms. Anyway, just to repeat my

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-06 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 05:25:59AM +0200, Atis Lezdins wrote: GMail webinterface does automatically hides quotations. I expect that other mail clients are following. apt-get install t-prot The /ignore for top-posters :-) -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755

[asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Top posting strikes again: On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 01:39:59PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quote : Like I said earlier - the CDR's aren't reliable enough for a billing platform (as you've rightly pointed out) but are OK for very basic call logging (something the customer can look at).

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread Apostolos Pantsiopoulos
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Top posting strikes again: On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 01:39:59PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quote : Like I said earlier - the CDR's aren't reliable enough for a billing platform (as you've rightly pointed out) but are OK for very basic call logging (something the

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread Andrew Thomas
Address added to spam filter. Please do NOT e-mail me again. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tzafrir Cohen Sent: 05 December 2008 13:27 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread Mr Gabriel
[was: Re: CDR Design] Address added to spam filter. Please do NOT e-mail me again. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tzafrir Cohen Sent: 05 December 2008 13:27 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] top posting

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design] - Or was it top posting?

2008-12-05 Thread Mr Gabriel
] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design] Address added to spam filter. Please do NOT e-mail me again. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tzafrir Cohen Sent: 05 December 2008 13:27 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design] - Or was it top posting?

2008-12-05 Thread Andrew Thomas
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mr Gabriel Sent: 05 December 2008 14:05 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design] - Or was it top posting? - Original Message

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread Gergo Csibra
Friday, December 5, 2008, 2:49:59 PM, Andrew wrote: Address added to spam filter. Please do NOT e-mail me again. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? -- Best

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread Andrew Thomas
-- To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion -- Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design] -- -- Friday, December 5, 2008, 2:49:59 PM, Andrew wrote: -- -- Address added to spam filter. Please do NOT e-mail me again. -- -- A: Because it messes

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread Atis Lezdins
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Apostolos Pantsiopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Top posting strikes again: On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 01:39:59PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quote : Like I said earlier - the CDR's aren't reliable enough for a billing platform (as

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread Mike Dent
H, not sure about you but I often pick up a book and flick from the back to the front, does nobody else do that? On 05/12/2008, Atis Lezdins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Apostolos Pantsiopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Top posting

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread Wilton Helm
I guess there is a variety of opinions on this, some of which relates to the tools a person is using. The absolutely most offensive thing to me in a post is to have to scroll through a bunch of copied original material that I've already read six times to get to the new part. My own preference

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Friday 05 December 2008 11:11:33 Wilton Helm wrote: I guess there is a variety of opinions on this, some of which relates to the tools a person is using. The absolutely most offensive thing to me in a post is to have to scroll through a bunch of copied original material that I've already

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread Don Kelly
Tilghman wrote ...will you ask your question in accordance with the rules that were set out in advance...? Where can we review these rules? --Don ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread David fire
i have the solution so every one is happy i will write over and below :- ) 2008/12/5 Tilghman Lesher [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Friday 05 December 2008 11:11:33 Wilton Helm wrote: I guess there is a variety of opinions on this, some of which relates to the tools a person is using. The

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 10:11:33AM -0700, Wilton Helm wrote: I guess there is a variety of opinions on this, some of which relates to the tools a person is using. The absolutely most offensive thing to me in a post is to have to scroll through a bunch of copied original material that I've

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Friday 05 December 2008 11:57:56 Don Kelly wrote: Tilghman wrote ...will you ask your question in accordance with the rules that were set out in advance...? Where can we review these rules? This one is as good as any: http://db.tidbits.com/article/5386 Note the publication date in

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread Atis Lezdins
makes sense On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 7:59 PM, David fire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have the solution so every one is happy i will write over and below :- ) 2008/12/5 Tilghman Lesher [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Friday 05 December 2008 11:11:33 Wilton Helm wrote: I guess there is a variety of

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread Ira
At 09:11 AM 12/5/2008, you wrote: I realize that not everyone sees it that way, but maybe it throws a different perspective in the mix. Personally I rarely read bottom posted messages. I've already read the rest of it and after so many times scrolling to the bottom to see I agree, I rarely

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread Barton Fisher
, telnet, teletype or CRT terminals for email and what not. I say, end it Bart - Original Message - From: Ira To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread Sebastian
: Friday, December 05, 2008 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design] At 09:11 AM 12/5/2008, you wrote: I realize that not everyone sees it that way, but maybe it throws a different perspective in the mix. Personally I rarely read bottom posted messages. I've

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread Duncan Turnbull
I like the discussion, I doubt it will end. I prefer top posting because I reply to all my customers that way, my mail client isn't that smart and I think technology should meet the needs rather than force you to adopt work arounds. I can fully understand though others preferring it, but I

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread Bob Gustafson
If I notice that someone has started a bottom post, I will follow. But, if I am the first, I will top post. When I look at a new email, I don't like to scroll to the bottom to find out what is new. If you know of a mail reader which will automatically scroll to the top of the latest info, let me

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread David fire
is enougth of this pointless topic... you are spammers now... 2008/12/6 Bob Gustafson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I notice that someone has started a bottom post, I will follow. But, if I am the first, I will top post. When I look at a new email, I don't like to scroll to the bottom to find out

Re: [asterisk-users] top posting again [was: Re: CDR Design]

2008-12-05 Thread Atis Lezdins
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:59 AM, Bob Gustafson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I notice that someone has started a bottom post, I will follow. But, if I am the first, I will top post. When I look at a new email, I don't like to scroll to the bottom to find out what is new. If you know of a mail