Re: [Asterisk-Users] DNS SRV records
Duane wrote: Olle E. Johansson wrote: If you do not enable SRV records, you can't phone me. There's no SIP proxy on edvina.net ;-) Exactly my point, by ***DEFAULT*** Asterisk won't use SRV records, even if it did, it doesn't support SRV correctly (as you pointed out), and using an A record is advantageous at this point in time as they ***WILL*** work without expecting any type of config to be turned on... In any case, SRV's point to A records... And my point is, if you want to use SIP outside of your LAN environment, enable SRV lookups. If you are only using SIP to connect local SIP phones on your LAN, disabling SRV lookups is fine. /O ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] DNS SRV records
My DNS gui(Cpanel/WHM) only allows the following options for entry type: A6 CNAME MX NS PTR TXT WRK Does anyone know if any of these options are acceptable substitutes for an SRV record, or do I need to put in a ticket to have a SRV record specifically created for me? - Andrew Thompson http://aktzero.com/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DNS SRV records
I have the same problem, I have a domain name but I do not want to pay for DNS services... I kept on trying to find a place where I can get SRV records from but none of the free DNS services provide them. I've tried ZoneEdit, DNS Park, etc. I've seen one which there might be a possibility, www.granitecanyon.com.. though they do not offer mail forwarding. Andrew Thompson wrote: My DNS gui(Cpanel/WHM) only allows the following options for entry type: A6 CNAME MX NS PTR TXT WRK Does anyone know if any of these options are acceptable substitutes for an SRV record, or do I need to put in a ticket to have a SRV record specifically created for me? - Andrew Thompson http://aktzero.com/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DNS SRV records
Andrew Thompson wrote: Does anyone know if any of these options are acceptable substitutes for an SRV record, or do I need to put in a ticket to have a SRV record specifically created for me? As with email you technically don't need MX records, an A record will also work fine. I'm pretty sure (long day can't be bothered checking) Asterisk won't even do SRV lookups by default as it's commented out in the default config... In other words you'd be better off with an A record... -- Best regards, Duane http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom http://happysnapper.com.au - Sell your photos over the net! http://e164.org - Using Enum.164 to interconnect asterisk servers In the confrontation between the stream and the rock, the stream always wins; not through strength, but through persistence. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DNS SRV records
On Wed, 2004-06-02 at 13:40, Andrew Thompson wrote: My DNS gui(Cpanel/WHM) only allows the following options for entry type: A6 CNAME MX NS PTR TXT WRK Does anyone know if any of these options are acceptable substitutes for an SRV record, or do I need to put in a ticket to have a SRV record specifically created for me? Sorry, really needs to be SRV :/ F ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DNS SRV records
On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 03:14:58PM +0200, Stephen Rosebush said: I have the same problem, I have a domain name but I do not want to pay for DNS services... I kept on trying to find a place where I can get SRV records from but none of the free DNS services provide them. I've tried ZoneEdit, DNS Park, etc. I've seen one which there might be a possibility, www.granitecanyon.com.. though they do not offer mail forwarding. Setup your own master that you manage, and have zoneedit slave. They support this. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] DNS SRV records
www.xname.org =) -Original Message- From: Stephen Rosebush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2004 2:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] DNS SRV records I have the same problem, I have a domain name but I do not want to pay for DNS services... I kept on trying to find a place where I can get SRV records from but none of the free DNS services provide them. I've tried ZoneEdit, DNS Park, etc. I've seen one which there might be a possibility, www.granitecanyon.com.. though they do not offer mail forwarding. Andrew Thompson wrote: My DNS gui(Cpanel/WHM) only allows the following options for entry type: A6 CNAME MX NS PTR TXT WRK Does anyone know if any of these options are acceptable substitutes for an SRV record, or do I need to put in a ticket to have a SRV record specifically created for me? - Andrew Thompson http://aktzero.com/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DNS SRV records
Duane wrote: Andrew Thompson wrote: Does anyone know if any of these options are acceptable substitutes for an SRV record, or do I need to put in a ticket to have a SRV record specifically created for me? As with email you technically don't need MX records, an A record will also work fine. I'm pretty sure (long day can't be bothered checking) Asterisk won't even do SRV lookups by default as it's commented out in the default config... In other words you'd be better off with an A record... Spoken like a true n00b13. You can *sometimes* get away with not having MX records. You can *sometimes* get away with not having SVR records. Both record types exist for a reason though. John ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DNS SRV records
John Fraizer wrote: Spoken like a true n00b13. If the current SIP bug isn't annoying enough to push people away from asterisk you just have to chip in your 2 cents worth to push things that little bit more... You can *sometimes* get away with not having MX records. You can *sometimes* get away with not having SVR records. Both record types exist for a reason though. Oh so that's why SRV lookups are commented out in the default asterisk config, so you can't get anything? sip://[EMAIL PROTECTED] works perfectly well... Before you berate others indescriminately remove your foot from your mouth next time so you don't look like as big of an ass next time... -- Best regards, Duane http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom http://happysnapper.com.au - Sell your photos over the net! http://e164.org - Using Enum.164 to interconnect asterisk servers In the confrontation between the stream and the rock, the stream always wins; not through strength, but through persistence. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DNS SRV records
sip://[EMAIL PROTECTED] works perfectly well... There are many benefits in stability when you use SRV records to find a SIP proxy. However this requires that you have some sort of load balancing between the servers. It was a long time ago anyone mailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let's hope we can prove the benefits of using SRV records for finding SIP servers so that * One Asterisk can serve many domains * Two asterisks can serve the same domain, sharing registration databases * Asterisk when calling, can try the second or third server in DNS SRV if the first one fails to answer We are not there yet. Working on it :-) But there are a lot of reasons to turn on DNS srv lookup in sip.conf if you allow outbound dialling on URL or use it in your dial plan. If you do not enable SRV records, you can't phone me. There's no SIP proxy on edvina.net ;-) (And there's no mail server on edvina.net neither. Wish all those spammers tried mailing that instead of reading mx records... ) I don't know if anyone sees being able to phone me as a required feature, but anyway. /O Ps. See http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-dns%20srv ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DNS SRV records
Duane wrote: John Fraizer wrote: Spoken like a true n00b13. If the current SIP bug isn't annoying enough to push people away from asterisk you just have to chip in your 2 cents worth to push things that little bit more... You can *sometimes* get away with not having MX records. You can *sometimes* get away with not having SVR records. Both record types exist for a reason though. Oh so that's why SRV lookups are commented out in the default asterisk config, so you can't get anything? sip://[EMAIL PROTECTED] works perfectly well... Before you berate others indescriminately remove your foot from your mouth next time so you don't look like as big of an ass next time... OK Son, Since you decided to keep this on the list, I will too. MX and SRV records are used to determine the appropriate handler(s) for: domain.name qualified.domain.name fully.qualified.domain.name more.fully.qualified.domain.name even.more.fully.qualified.domain.name For example, if you had the following in the DNS zone for domain.name: $ORIGIN NAME. DOMAIN IN NS your.name.server. IN NS your.other.name.server. IN A 10.1.1.1 IN MX 10 your.mail.exchanger. IN MX 20 your.other.mail.exchanger. IN SOA your.name.server. dnsadmin.your.domain.( 200403059 10800 3600 604800 300 ) $ORIGIN DOMAIN.NAME. _sip._udp SRV 10 10 5060 1.your.sipproxy.domain.name. _sip._udp SRV 10 20 5060 2.your.sipproxy.domain.name. _sip._udp SRV 20 10 5060 3.your.sipproxy.domain.name. 1.your.sipproxy IN A 192.168.1.1 2.your.sipproxy IN A 192.168.1.2 3.your.sipproxy IN A 192.168.1.3 Email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be processed by your.mail.exchanger and not sent to domain.name at it's A record. The same goes for email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the event that your.mail.exchanger was down, mail would be handled by your.other.mail.exchanger. The purpose of the MX record is to be able to point the SMTP service responsibility at a host OTHER than the FQDN that is being referenced in the email. The same works for SRV records. In the above example, if someone dialed the URL [EMAIL PROTECTED], the SIP INVITE would first be sent to either 1.your.sipproxy.domain.name at 192.168.1.1 or 2.your.sipproxy.domain.name at 192.168.1.2 (with the first one getting the larger percentage of use based on its weight entry) and not to domain.name at 10.1.1.1. If a sipproxy can't be reached at 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.1.3, the SIP INVITE will be sent to 2.your.sipproxy.domain.name at 192.168.1.3 based on it's priority as a backup to the first two entries. These records exist so that services can be hosted on machines OTHER than the machine that matches domain.name. They also allow for fail over in the event of failure of a server or service. It also allows you to point a service at a machine or group of machines without having to give every person a new email address or SIP URL to use. Next benefit: Say you have big-fat-server.your.domain.name and every person on the planet uses [EMAIL PROTECTED] as your email address and SIP URL. Now, you decide that you want to split the tasks of email and SIP proxy off of big-fat-server.your.domain.name and on to their own dedicated servers. With MX and SRV records, this is a matter if simply updating the record appropriate record. Without those records, you now have to tell people that to send you email, they have to use [EMAIL PROTECTED] and to call you over VOIP, they have to use [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Kinda hokey... Huh. That's why we have MX records and SRV records. With these records set up properly, people can both email and call you over VOIP at the same place, [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Hrm. That seems a bunch easier than remembering what the name to your mailserver and/or sipproxy are, doesn't it. So, decide for yourself folks. Do you want to do it the n00b1e way or do you want to do it right the first time and be done with it? Now. On the matter of who made an ass of them self, I think you should take a close look in the mirror because it was most certainly not I. -- John not a n00b13 Fraizer ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DNS SRV records
Olle E. Johansson wrote: If you do not enable SRV records, you can't phone me. There's no SIP proxy on edvina.net ;-) Exactly my point, by ***DEFAULT*** Asterisk won't use SRV records, even if it did, it doesn't support SRV correctly (as you pointed out), and using an A record is advantageous at this point in time as they ***WILL*** work without expecting any type of config to be turned on... In any case, SRV's point to A records... -- Best regards, Duane http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom http://happysnapper.com.au - Sell your photos over the net! http://e164.org - Using Enum.164 to interconnect asterisk servers In the confrontation between the stream and the rock, the stream always wins; not through strength, but through persistence. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] DNS SRV records
John Fraizer wrote: MX and SRV records are used to determine the appropriate handler(s) for: domain.name qualified.domain.name fully.qualified.domain.name more.fully.qualified.domain.name even.more.fully.qualified.domain.name For example, if you had the following in the DNS zone for domain.name: ...and... Email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be processed by your.mail.exchanger and not sent to domain.name at it's A record. The same goes for email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the event that your.mail.exchanger was down, mail would be handled by your.other.mail.exchanger. Am I way behind the times or is this precisely *not* how MX and SRV records work? A domain is a domain. A subdomain is just a fancier term for a domain within another domain, and hence not treated differently. Last I checked, failing to have an MX record for the host.com domain did not result in a search for an MX record defined for com when sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] DNS SRV records
Duane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Fraizer wrote: Blah blah blah crap crap crap... I know what a SRV record is, and until they start making it work correctly in Asterisk A records will be what I tell people to use, well unless you want them to use SER which I am told does handle SRV properly... Now. On the matter of who made an ass of them self, I think you should take a close look in the mirror because it was most certainly not I. sip://[EMAIL PROTECTED] oh wait no SRV record on that, only an A record... Oh my what's the world coming to, all hell is going to break loose, crawl back into the hole you came out of you loud mouth fool... Not being one to stay out of an argument, here's what I do. :-) I publish [EMAIL PROTECTED] as my SIP address and also have [EMAIL PROTECTED] available via a SRV record. The voip host serves two purposes: 1. The voip host alias (well, an A record actually) can point to any server I like, so I can move Asterisk from one server to another without having to publish a new SIP address. 2. The voip part makes it (reasonably) clear that it's a SIP address and not an email address. (I know that one address can be used for both, before someone points that out.) Perhaps sip.cursor.biz would be clearer but I just prefer voip; It's less specific, so can be used to cover IAX too. I do have SRV records, but I don't publish SIP addresses using domains based upon them. Perhaps I will one day. -- _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ K e v i n W a l s h _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/[EMAIL PROTECTED] _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] DNS SRV records
sip://[EMAIL PROTECTED] There were SRV records on fwd.pulver.com about a year ago, but there was something in the configuration that caused 7960s to constantly reboot. Got lots of PSTN calls that day! The SRV records do exist on other fwd domains, e.g., _sip._udp.freeworlddialup.com and will again probably find their way back to fwd.pulver.com. Cheers, Ed Guy * http://www.pulver.com/developers/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DNS SRV records
Ed Guy wrote: There were SRV records on fwd.pulver.com about a year ago, but there was something in the configuration that caused 7960s to constantly reboot. Got lots of PSTN calls that day! This is the crux of the argument, devices and software (ie asterisk) that don't support, or don't support properly/fully the use of SRV records... I know of MTA software that doesn't properly support MX records as well, they try to send it to the A record then fall back to MX or something weird like that, but unlike SIP this is the minority not the majority... The SRV records do exist on other fwd domains, e.g., _sip._udp.freeworlddialup.com and will again probably find their way back to fwd.pulver.com. This may be so, however I've always seen it written as [EMAIL PROTECTED] I always wondered why even on freeworlddialup.com it wasn't written as [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Duane http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom http://happysnapper.com.au - Sell your photos over the net! http://e164.org - Using Enum.164 to interconnect asterisk servers In the confrontation between the stream and the rock, the stream always wins; not through strength, but through persistence. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
