Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

2017-06-17 Thread Marcelo Terres
Yes, let's stop to use our gmail accounts because JUST THE DIGIUM MAILING LIST is bouncing. All other mailman servers must be wrongly configured, and the Digium server is the only one that is correct. Perfect! :-D Marcelo H. Terres IM: mhter...@jabber.mundoopensource.com.br

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

2017-06-16 Thread James B. Byrne
On Fri, June 16, 2017 12:28, Tim S wrote: Whether it is intentional or not these messages railing against the list operators has a decided tone of condescension which is not warranted. The fact of the matter is that DMARC is broken by design and the unpleasant effects that adoption of it has on

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

2017-06-16 Thread Adam Goldberg
] On Behalf Of Dave Platt Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 1:34 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ? I'm not sure of the precise specifics of how Digium runs the list, but this sort of problem has been a "known

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

2017-06-16 Thread Dave Platt
I'm not sure of the precise specifics of how Digium runs the list, but this sort of problem has been a "known issue" with mailing list distributions ever since SPF and similar technologies showed up, almost a decade ago. DomainKeys and DMARC makes it more of an issue, but the overall problem is

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

2017-06-16 Thread Tim S
I'd hazard to say it probably is Digium's "fault", this was a recent and now consistent problem, which started within the last month or so. I'm on 7 other Linux-related mailing lists which all use similar mailer daemons, and none have this issue. I have been subscribed to Asterisk

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

2017-06-16 Thread John Novack
Jonathan H wrote: On 16 June 2017 at 08:38, J Montoya or A J Stiles wrote: It's hardly Digium's fault, if Google have decided that playing nicely with syntactically-valid messages doesn't fit their business model Not really Gmail's fault, either. Someone

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

2017-06-16 Thread Daniel Tryba
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 08:38:59AM +0100, J Montoya or A J Stiles wrote: > > Whatever has been done, if anything, isn't working effectively. At this > > point I'd like to see some response from the mailing list admin about any > > root-cause efforts, AFAIC this is starting to smear the

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

2017-06-16 Thread Jonathan H
On 16 June 2017 at 08:38, J Montoya or A J Stiles wrote: > It's hardly Digium's fault, if Google have decided that playing nicely with > syntactically-valid messages doesn't fit their business model Not really Gmail's fault, either. Someone above said they had

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

2017-06-16 Thread J Montoya or A J Stiles
On Thursday 15 Jun 2017, Tim S wrote: > Whatever has been done, if anything, isn't working effectively. At this > point I'd like to see some response from the mailing list admin about any > root-cause efforts, AFAIC this is starting to smear the Digium/Asterisk > brand's ability to handle IT

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

2017-06-15 Thread Tim S
Another "me too" (also Gmail). I just received my 4th "account suspended, too many bounces" email, after having several days of lost mailing list content over a short vacation break the last time. When I notified the admin email account of the failure, it seemed the responder missed the

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

2017-06-13 Thread PLA
Me too. Also gmail. R☮ck on, PLA Patrick L Archibald http://PatrickArchibald.com On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 4:26 AM, Jonathan H wrote: > Me too, also gmail. I emailed the list owner a couple of days ago, but no > reply. > > Is everyone else affected also forwarding to

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

2017-06-12 Thread Rusty Newton
We've seen this issue in the past on and off with a variety of random users. We were never able to pinpoint the issue. We'll look into it again and see if we can find anything new. I've created a JIRA issue to track the issue for the moment. https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-27049

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

2017-06-12 Thread Sebastian Gutierrez
same here. > On Jun 12, 2017, at 10:02, Kseniya Blashchuk wrote: > > Same about me - need to re-enable membership all the time. Annoying (( > > пн, 12 июн. 2017 г. в 15:59, John Novack >: > Not just gmail > Happening as

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

2017-06-12 Thread Kseniya Blashchuk
Same about me - need to re-enable membership all the time. Annoying (( пн, 12 июн. 2017 г. в 15:59, John Novack : > Not just gmail > Happening as well with Comcast.net > > My Comcast address is set to forward to another domain, as Comcast seems > to now block sending mail

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

2017-06-12 Thread John Novack
Not just gmail Happening as well with Comcast.net My Comcast address is set to forward to another domain, as Comcast seems to now block sending mail with a non Comcast "from" address. they turned that on a couple years ago with no notice. John Novack Jonathan H wrote: Me too, also gmail.

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

2017-06-12 Thread Jonathan H
Me too, also gmail. I emailed the list owner a couple of days ago, but no reply. Is everyone else affected also forwarding to another email address (gmail or not)? Could be wrong, but I'm guessing there may be an incorrect DMARC policy somewhere - although this is the only fail I could find in

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

2017-06-12 Thread Daniel Tryba
On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 09:07:31AM +0200, Olivier wrote: > Lately, I'm receiving emails asking me to re-enable my list subscription > due to "excessive bouncing". > > What does this exactly mean and why am I receiving this ? > Beside re-enabling my subscription, what can I do to improve things ?

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

2017-06-12 Thread Steve Davies
I am also getting this, three or four times in the last month after years of no problems. I agree that Gmail is the likely common factor, but I would love to have access to these bounce messages to know whether it is actually an overly-paranoid list server! Steve On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 at 09:09

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

2017-06-12 Thread Andrew Furey
Ditto; a Gmail issue? Andrew On 12 June 2017 at 16:00, Marcelo Terres wrote: > It is happening the same with me. > > Regards, > Marcelo H. Terres > IM: mhter...@jabber.mundoopensource.com.br > https://www.mundoopensource.com.br >

Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

2017-06-12 Thread Marcelo Terres
It is happening the same with me. Regards, Marcelo H. Terres IM: mhter...@jabber.mundoopensource.com.br https://www.mundoopensource.com.br https://twitter.com/mhterres https://linkedin.com/in/marceloterres On 12 June 2017 at 08:07, Olivier wrote: >