Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

[Marcelo Terres]

Yes, let's stop to use our gmail accounts because JUST THE DIGIUM
MAILING LIST is bouncing.

All other mailman servers must be wrongly configured, and the Digium
server is the only one that is correct. Perfect!

:-D
Marcelo H. Terres 
IM: mhter...@jabber.mundoopensource.com.br
https://www.mundoopensource.com.br
https://twitter.com/mhterres
https://linkedin.com/in/marceloterres


On 16 June 2017 at 22:37, James B. Byrne  wrote:
>
> On Fri, June 16, 2017 12:28, Tim S wrote:
>
> Whether it is intentional or not these messages railing against the
> list operators has a decided tone of condescension which is not
> warranted.  The fact of the matter is that DMARC is broken by design
> and the unpleasant effects that adoption of it has on mailing-list
> traffic were well hashed out on the ITEF mailing lists before it was
> adopted anyway.  What was predicted there has come to pass.
>
> DMARC conflicts with the existing SMTP RFCs in several ways, none of
> which I will elaborate here but all of which may be discovered by
> perusing the relevant threads on the ITEF mailing lists.  Some mailing
> list management software, notably Mailman, since has been modified to
> 'work around' the problems with DMARC if so configured by the list
> owners.  But only at the cost of violating the SMTP RFCs themselves.
> Do not take my word for it.  Raise these issues on the Postfix mailing
> list and discover what response you get from Viktor and Wietse.
>
> The driving force behind DMARC was YAHOO's shoddy security of their
> own users' accounts.  With Hotmail and similar ilk close behind. It is
> a completely inappropriate, and in my opinion ill-thought-out,
> technical solution to what is essentially an internal security problem
> at some email providers, albeit very large ones.  In general it is an
> example of what is called 'externalising your costs'.
>
> The appropriate answer has been provided: lose the
> gmail/hotmail/yahoo/freemail account and administer your own domain
> for personal email. Configure the spf and dkim settings on your own
> domain as required to suit your needs and not those of someone else.
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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

[James B. Byrne]

On Fri, June 16, 2017 12:28, Tim S wrote:

Whether it is intentional or not these messages railing against the
list operators has a decided tone of condescension which is not
warranted.  The fact of the matter is that DMARC is broken by design
and the unpleasant effects that adoption of it has on mailing-list
traffic were well hashed out on the ITEF mailing lists before it was
adopted anyway.  What was predicted there has come to pass.

DMARC conflicts with the existing SMTP RFCs in several ways, none of
which I will elaborate here but all of which may be discovered by
perusing the relevant threads on the ITEF mailing lists.  Some mailing
list management software, notably Mailman, since has been modified to
'work around' the problems with DMARC if so configured by the list
owners.  But only at the cost of violating the SMTP RFCs themselves.
Do not take my word for it.  Raise these issues on the Postfix mailing
list and discover what response you get from Viktor and Wietse.

The driving force behind DMARC was YAHOO's shoddy security of their
own users' accounts.  With Hotmail and similar ilk close behind. It is
a completely inappropriate, and in my opinion ill-thought-out,
technical solution to what is essentially an internal security problem
at some email providers, albeit very large ones.  In general it is an
example of what is called 'externalising your costs'.

The appropriate answer has been provided: lose the
gmail/hotmail/yahoo/freemail account and administer your own domain
for personal email. Configure the spf and dkim settings on your own
domain as required to suit your needs and not those of someone else.

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

[Adam Goldberg]

I believe that Digium is using Mailman already (hence the in-the-clear monthly 
password reminders).  I suggest that whoever administers the Mailman system 
should probably be able to tell why Gmail is bouncing (sometimes), and if not, 
there's plenty of active Mailman help available:

Mailman-Users mailing list mailman-us...@python.org
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3


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AGP, LLC
+1-202-507-9900

-Original Message-
From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Dave Platt
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 1:34 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes 
from ?

I'm not sure of the precise specifics of how Digium runs the list, but this 
sort of problem has been a "known issue" with mailing list distributions ever 
since SPF and similar technologies showed up, almost a decade ago.  DomainKeys 
and DMARC makes it more of an issue, but the overall problem is not new.

I had to switch mailing-list packages (from Majordomo to GNU Mailman) for the 
lists I run, and configure Mailman properly to avoid the worst of the problem.

In my experience, the problems affect mailing lists where:

-  The mailing list software retransmits an incoming message to
   subscribers, using the same sender address (in the SMTP
   transaction and/or message headers) that the original sender used.

and

-  The sending domain has some sort of anti-forgery technology in
   place - either SPF or DomainKeys can trigger the problem.

When such a message is retransmitted, one of several things can happen when it 
hits a mail server that does anti-spoofing enforcement:

(1) "Hmmm.  This message says it comes from j...@example.com, but the
example.com domain has an SPF record which says that only the
following five IP addresses are authorized mailers for this domain,
and suggests a policy of 'reject' for other IP addresses.  This
message is coming from an IP address which isn't on that list.
Reject it."

or

(2) "Hmmm.  This message says it comes from j...@example.com.  It has
a DomainKeys signature from that domain, which covers the sender ID,
subject, and message body.  The signature doesn't match" [sotto
voce, the Subject header was modified by the mailing list software
to include the group name] "and example.com suggests rejecting
messages which say they're from example.com but have bad signature.
Reject it."

There are almost certainly other, similar scenarios.

As a result, messages of this sort will tend to "bounce" from hosts that 
implement forgery protection, and the mailing-list software will often react to 
a flurry of such bounces by unsubscribing the intended recipient from the list.

None of the workarounds for this are perfect - they all have side effects.

[A] Recipients who are being unsubscribed because gmail (e.g.) is
bouncing such messages, can change their subscription to the
mailing list to "daily digest".  Mailman (and I believe most other
mailing list packages) send out digests as new messages, with their
own domain as the return address, thus avoiding the problems.

[B] For SPF, the mailing list software can be configured to "take
ownership" of the message... rewriting the sender address into a new
form which doesn't break SPF rules.  Examples for a message from
j...@example.com might be

   Joe at example.com via Foobar mailing list <foo...@mailer.com>
   Joe <joe-at-example-dot-...@rewritten.mailer.com>

and so forth.

GNU Mailman has the ability to do something along the lines of the
first example.  It's the configuration I use on the small mailing
list I run.  I believe it also adds a Reply-To: header to the
message to "point back to" the original sender.

It's possible to rewrite/substitute the message used in the SMTP
session, but leave the original sender's address intact in the
message headers.  This will be acceptable to many (but not all)
systems that check SPF.

[C] For DomainKeys... well, if the mailing list software is going to
make any changes at all to the headers on messages it's relaying,
or change the message body at all, it should strip out any
DomainKeys signature that might exist on the message.

Or, it can send the whole inbound message (unmodified) as a MIME
attachment within a new message it originates.  This leaves the
signature intact, but can be hard for many mail programs to handle
gracefully.


It would be up to Digium to do [B] and [C] for the mailing lists, if they so 
choose.

Individual subscribers can do [A] to reduce the risk that they'll be 
unsubscribed from the list whenever an SPF-protected message is sent through 
the list.


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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

[Dave Platt]

I'm not sure of the precise specifics of how Digium runs the
list, but this sort of problem has been a "known issue" with
mailing list distributions ever since SPF and similar technologies
showed up, almost a decade ago.  DomainKeys and DMARC makes it more of
an issue, but the overall problem is not new.

I had to switch mailing-list packages (from Majordomo to GNU Mailman)
for the lists I run, and configure Mailman properly to avoid the
worst of the problem.

In my experience, the problems affect mailing lists where:

-  The mailing list software retransmits an incoming message to
   subscribers, using the same sender address (in the SMTP
   transaction and/or message headers) that the original sender used.

and

-  The sending domain has some sort of anti-forgery technology in
   place - either SPF or DomainKeys can trigger the problem.

When such a message is retransmitted, one of several things can happen
when it hits a mail server that does anti-spoofing enforcement:

(1) "Hmmm.  This message says it comes from j...@example.com, but the
example.com domain has an SPF record which says that only the
following five IP addresses are authorized mailers for this domain,
and suggests a policy of 'reject' for other IP addresses.  This
message is coming from an IP address which isn't on that list.
Reject it."

or

(2) "Hmmm.  This message says it comes from j...@example.com.  It has
a DomainKeys signature from that domain, which covers the sender ID,
subject, and message body.  The signature doesn't match" [sotto
voce, the Subject header was modified by the mailing list software
to include the group name] "and example.com suggests rejecting
messages which say they're from example.com but have bad signature.
Reject it."

There are almost certainly other, similar scenarios.

As a result, messages of this sort will tend to "bounce" from hosts
that implement forgery protection, and the mailing-list software will
often react to a flurry of such bounces by unsubscribing the intended
recipient from the list.

None of the workarounds for this are perfect - they all have side
effects.

[A] Recipients who are being unsubscribed because gmail (e.g.) is
bouncing such messages, can change their subscription to the
mailing list to "daily digest".  Mailman (and I believe most other
mailing list packages) send out digests as new messages, with their
own domain as the return address, thus avoiding the problems.

[B] For SPF, the mailing list software can be configured to "take
ownership" of the message... rewriting the sender address into a new
form which doesn't break SPF rules.  Examples for a message from
j...@example.com might be

   Joe at example.com via Foobar mailing list 
   Joe 

and so forth.

GNU Mailman has the ability to do something along the lines of the
first example.  It's the configuration I use on the small mailing
list I run.  I believe it also adds a Reply-To: header to the
message to "point back to" the original sender.

It's possible to rewrite/substitute the message used in the SMTP
session, but leave the original sender's address intact in the
message headers.  This will be acceptable to many (but not all)
systems that check SPF.

[C] For DomainKeys... well, if the mailing list software is going to
make any changes at all to the headers on messages it's relaying,
or change the message body at all, it should strip out any
DomainKeys signature that might exist on the message.

Or, it can send the whole inbound message (unmodified) as a MIME
attachment within a new message it originates.  This leaves the
signature intact, but can be hard for many mail programs to handle
gracefully.


It would be up to Digium to do [B] and [C] for the mailing lists, if
they so choose.

Individual subscribers can do [A] to reduce the risk that they'll be
unsubscribed from the list whenever an SPF-protected message is sent
through the list.


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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

[Tim S]

I'd hazard to say it probably is Digium's "fault", this was a recent and
now consistent problem, which started within the last month or so.  I'm on
7 other Linux-related mailing lists which all use similar mailer daemons,
and none have this issue.  I have been subscribed to Asterisk
Users/Developers for over two years without issue.

Since the mailing-list system is seeing "bounces" on outbound, and I am not
when transmitting INTO the mailing list - this tells me that outbound
emails from the mailing-list system to Gmail are getting returned because
of some characteristic (either content, TX security functionality, or
mailer system configuration).  Mail being sent by Digium (even as a conduit
for user communications) can only be diagnosed by Digium.  I'd imagine that
if the mail admin looked at how many bounce emails have since been sent
over time, there will be a spike that can be correlated to:
* sender email addresses
* email subject/body content,
* a change they made in their system,
* a change they were supposed to make to their system but failed to.

And to the person who suggested using a non-free email, I do have those
accounts on my own mail system - but I don't use them for newsletters,
re-occurring bulletins, or public Linux mailing lists where "everyone" is
the receiver.  Not good web hygiene IMHO - like a white picket fence around
a yard, the general public can walk up and talk (to my Gmail), but I prefer
to only let family and friends through the gate and in the front door
(private email account).  This also makes filtering and spam detection much
easier while not sucking up my server time and storage space ;-).

My other issue is the quarterly password email reminder where the password
is sent in plain text... (facepalm).  Probably why spam has been a problem
on this board.

-Tim

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 5:51 AM, John Novack  wrote:

>
> Jonathan H wrote:
>
> On 16 June 2017 at 08:38, J Montoya or A J 
> Stiles  wrote:
>
>
> It's hardly Digium's fault, if Google have decided that playing nicely with
> syntactically-valid messages doesn't fit their business model
>
> Not really Gmail's fault, either.  Someone above said they had the
> same problem with Comcast.net.
>
> Gmail complies with the relevant RFCs just fine. It's most likely
> simply because most people who use email, use Gmail.
>
> In addition, gmail properly implement SPF and DMARC checking.
>
> There's over 1 billion gmail account as of 2016, so that's why most
> people who are bouncing would be gmail.
>
>
> Correct Had another one yesterday
> Am on several other mailing lists that have no such issue.
> Something related to the mailer Digium uses or their ISP
>
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

[John Novack]

Jonathan H wrote:

On 16 June 2017 at 08:38, J Montoya or A J Stiles
 wrote:


It's hardly Digium's fault, if Google have decided that playing nicely with
syntactically-valid messages doesn't fit their business model

Not really Gmail's fault, either.  Someone above said they had the
same problem with Comcast.net.

Gmail complies with the relevant RFCs just fine. It's most likely
simply because most people who use email, use Gmail.

In addition, gmail properly implement SPF and DMARC checking.

There's over 1 billion gmail account as of 2016, so that's why most
people who are bouncing would be gmail.


Correct Had another one yesterday
Am on several other mailing lists that have no such issue.
Something related to the mailer Digium uses or their ISP


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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

[Daniel Tryba]

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 08:38:59AM +0100, J Montoya or A J Stiles wrote:
> > Whatever has been done, if anything, isn't working effectively.  At this
> > point I'd like to see some response from the mailing list admin about any
> > root-cause efforts, AFAIC this is starting to smear the Digium/Asterisk
> > brand's ability to handle IT related issues...  No response = no confidence
> > vote.
> 
> It's hardly Digium's fault,

Actually it is. They are pretending to send email from our/your/my
emailadresses without taking the proper steps how to do this in a modern
age.

[snip google rant]

DMARC reports inform me that most rejections come from Google (500+),
Microsoft has far far less rejection (less than 10 IIRC), then comcast
and some other mail providers. It is just that most people (choose) use
Google, get over it.

What Google (and many many others) is doing is for the benifit of reducing
email spoofing and spam. Proper SPF/DKIM/DMARC are a must if you want to
send mail to the big parties. The time you could simply run your own
smtpd without any cares are long since gone, you need to comply to
current SMTP related RFCs to get mail accepted.

I'm still maintaining the idea that simply enabling DKIM signing on this
list solves the problem. It is supported by the MTAs I can see in the
headers and I linked to a howto in the past.

But Digium doesn't need to have this kind of knowledge, their business
is not SMTP based but SIP based (and I think they are great at that
business). But since the mailinglists are supplemental support services
it would be in their best interest to fix this mess in some way.


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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

[Jonathan H]

On 16 June 2017 at 08:38, J Montoya or A J Stiles
 wrote:

> It's hardly Digium's fault, if Google have decided that playing nicely with
> syntactically-valid messages doesn't fit their business model

Not really Gmail's fault, either.  Someone above said they had the
same problem with Comcast.net.

Gmail complies with the relevant RFCs just fine. It's most likely
simply because most people who use email, use Gmail.

In addition, gmail properly implement SPF and DMARC checking.

There's over 1 billion gmail account as of 2016, so that's why most
people who are bouncing would be gmail.

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

[J Montoya or A J Stiles]

On Thursday 15 Jun 2017, Tim S wrote:
> Whatever has been done, if anything, isn't working effectively.  At this
> point I'd like to see some response from the mailing list admin about any
> root-cause efforts, AFAIC this is starting to smear the Digium/Asterisk
> brand's ability to handle IT related issues...  No response = no confidence
> vote.

It's hardly Digium's fault, if Google have decided that playing nicely with 
syntactically-valid messages doesn't fit their business model  (which is to 
know everything about everyone; purely in order to push them the "right" 
advertisements, in spite of whatever uses less other actors with less benign 
intentions might make of this information, of course).  

The cure is to pay for a proper e-mail hosting service.  "Free" services such 
as Gmail are overpriced.

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

[Tim S]

Another "me too" (also Gmail).

 I just received my 4th "account suspended, too many bounces" email,
after having several days of lost mailing list content over a short
vacation break the last time.  When I notified the admin email account of
the failure, it seemed the responder missed the point about the emails,
saying the link had expired (it had been more than three days since I had
checked Gmail) - not seeming to notice that there was a problem with users
having errant email bounce account suspensions.

Whatever has been done, if anything, isn't working effectively.  At this
point I'd like to see some response from the mailing list admin about any
root-cause efforts, AFAIC this is starting to smear the Digium/Asterisk
brand's ability to handle IT related issues...  No response = no confidence
vote.

-Tim


On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 7:04 AM, Patrick L Archibald (PLA) ☮  <
patrick.archib...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Me too. Also gmail.
> R☮ck on, PLA
>
> Patrick L Archibald
> http://PatrickArchibald.com
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 4:26 AM, Jonathan H 
> wrote:
> > Me too, also gmail. I emailed the list owner a couple of days ago, but
> no reply.
> >
> > Is everyone else affected also forwarding to another email address
> > (gmail or not)?
> >
> > Could be wrong, but I'm guessing there may be an incorrect DMARC
> > policy somewhere - although this is the only fail I could find in the
> > headers.
> >
> > boun...@lists.digium.com;
> >dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12 June 2017 at 09:12, Steve Davies  wrote:
> >> I am also getting this, three or four times in the last month after
> years of
> >> no problems.
> >>
> >> I agree that Gmail is the likely common factor, but I would love to have
> >> access to these bounce messages to know whether it is actually an
> >> overly-paranoid list server!
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >> On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 at 09:09 Andrew Furey 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ditto; a Gmail issue?
> >>>
> >>> Andrew
> >>>
> >>> On 12 June 2017 at 16:00, Marcelo Terres  wrote:
> 
>  It is happening the same with me.
> 
>  Regards,
>  Marcelo H. Terres 
>  IM: mhter...@jabber.mundoopensource.com.br
>  https://www.mundoopensource.com.br
>  https://twitter.com/mhterres
>  https://linkedin.com/in/marceloterres
> 
> 
>  On 12 June 2017 at 08:07, Olivier  wrote:
>  > Hello,
>  >
>  > I'm a faithful reader of this mailing list, for several years now.
>  >
>  > Lately, I'm receiving emails asking me to re-enable my list
>  > subscription due
>  > to "excessive bouncing".
>  >
>  > What does this exactly mean and why am I receiving this ?
>  > Beside re-enabling my subscription, what can I do to improve things
> ?
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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

[PLA]

Me too. Also gmail.
R☮ck on, PLA

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On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 4:26 AM, Jonathan H  wrote:
> Me too, also gmail. I emailed the list owner a couple of days ago, but no 
> reply.
>
> Is everyone else affected also forwarding to another email address
> (gmail or not)?
>
> Could be wrong, but I'm guessing there may be an incorrect DMARC
> policy somewhere - although this is the only fail I could find in the
> headers.
>
> boun...@lists.digium.com;
>dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com
>
>
>
> On 12 June 2017 at 09:12, Steve Davies  wrote:
>> I am also getting this, three or four times in the last month after years of
>> no problems.
>>
>> I agree that Gmail is the likely common factor, but I would love to have
>> access to these bounce messages to know whether it is actually an
>> overly-paranoid list server!
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 at 09:09 Andrew Furey  wrote:
>>>
>>> Ditto; a Gmail issue?
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> On 12 June 2017 at 16:00, Marcelo Terres  wrote:

 It is happening the same with me.

 Regards,
 Marcelo H. Terres 
 IM: mhter...@jabber.mundoopensource.com.br
 https://www.mundoopensource.com.br
 https://twitter.com/mhterres
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 On 12 June 2017 at 08:07, Olivier  wrote:
 > Hello,
 >
 > I'm a faithful reader of this mailing list, for several years now.
 >
 > Lately, I'm receiving emails asking me to re-enable my list
 > subscription due
 > to "excessive bouncing".
 >
 > What does this exactly mean and why am I receiving this ?
 > Beside re-enabling my subscription, what can I do to improve things ?
 >
 > Regards
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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

[Rusty Newton]

We've seen this issue in the past on and off with a variety of random
users. We were never able to pinpoint the issue.

We'll look into it again and see if we can find anything new. I've created
a JIRA issue to track the issue for the moment.
https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-27049

Any further comments or information should go on that issue. Thanks!



On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Sebastian Gutierrez 
wrote:

> same here.
>
>
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 12 June 2017 at 08:07, Olivier   
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm a faithful reader of this mailing list, for several years now.
>>
>> Lately, I'm receiving emails asking me to re-enable my list
>> subscription due
>> to "excessive bouncing".
>>
>> What does this exactly mean and why am I receiving this ?
>> Beside re-enabling my subscription, what can I do to improve things ?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

[Sebastian Gutierrez]

same here.

> On Jun 12, 2017, at 10:02, Kseniya Blashchuk  wrote:
> 
> Same about me - need to re-enable membership all the time. Annoying ((
> 
> пн, 12 июн. 2017 г. в 15:59, John Novack  >:
> Not just gmail
> Happening as well with Comcast.net
> 
> My Comcast address is set to forward to another domain, as Comcast seems to 
> now block sending mail with a non Comcast "from" address. they turned that on 
> a couple years ago with no  notice.
> 
> John Novack
> 
> 
> Jonathan H wrote:
>> Me too, also gmail. I emailed the list owner a couple of days ago, but no 
>> reply.
>> 
>> Is everyone else affected also forwarding to another email address
>> (gmail or not)?
>> 
>> Could be wrong, but I'm guessing there may be an incorrect DMARC
>> policy somewhere - although this is the only fail I could find in the
>> headers.
>> 
>> boun...@lists.digium.com ;
>>dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 12 June 2017 at 09:12, Steve Davies  
>>  wrote:
>>> I am also getting this, three or four times in the last month after years of
>>> no problems.
>>> 
>>> I agree that Gmail is the likely common factor, but I would love to have
>>> access to these bounce messages to know whether it is actually an
>>> overly-paranoid list server!
>>> 
>>> Steve
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 at 09:09 Andrew Furey  
>>>  wrote:
 Ditto; a Gmail issue?
 
 Andrew
 
 On 12 June 2017 at 16:00, Marcelo Terres  
  wrote:
> It is happening the same with me.
> 
> Regards,
> Marcelo H. Terres  
> IM: mhter...@jabber.mundoopensource.com.br 
> 
> https://www.mundoopensource.com.br 
> https://twitter.com/mhterres 
> https://linkedin.com/in/marceloterres 
> 
> 
> 
> On 12 June 2017 at 08:07, Olivier  
>  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'm a faithful reader of this mailing list, for several years now.
>> 
>> Lately, I'm receiving emails asking me to re-enable my list
>> subscription due
>> to "excessive bouncing".
>> 
>> What does this exactly mean and why am I receiving this ?
>> Beside re-enabling my subscription, what can I do to improve things ?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

[Kseniya Blashchuk]

Same about me - need to re-enable membership all the time. Annoying ((

пн, 12 июн. 2017 г. в 15:59, John Novack :

> Not just gmail
> Happening as well with Comcast.net
>
> My Comcast address is set to forward to another domain, as Comcast seems
> to now block sending mail with a non Comcast "from" address. they turned
> that on a couple years ago with no  notice.
>
> John Novack
>
>
> Jonathan H wrote:
>
> Me too, also gmail. I emailed the list owner a couple of days ago, but no 
> reply.
>
> Is everyone else affected also forwarding to another email address
> (gmail or not)?
>
> Could be wrong, but I'm guessing there may be an incorrect DMARC
> policy somewhere - although this is the only fail I could find in the
> headers.
> boun...@lists.digium.com;
>dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com
>
>
>
> On 12 June 2017 at 09:12, Steve Davies  
>  wrote:
>
> I am also getting this, three or four times in the last month after years of
> no problems.
>
> I agree that Gmail is the likely common factor, but I would love to have
> access to these bounce messages to know whether it is actually an
> overly-paranoid list server!
>
> Steve
>
> On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 at 09:09 Andrew Furey  
>  wrote:
>
>
> Ditto; a Gmail issue?
>
> Andrew
>
> On 12 June 2017 at 16:00, Marcelo Terres  
>  wrote:
>
>
> It is happening the same with me.
>
> Regards,
> Marcelo H. Terres  
> IM: 
> mhter...@jabber.mundoopensource.com.brhttps://www.mundoopensource.com.brhttps://twitter.com/mhterreshttps://linkedin.com/in/marceloterres
>
>
> On 12 June 2017 at 08:07, Olivier   
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm a faithful reader of this mailing list, for several years now.
>
> Lately, I'm receiving emails asking me to re-enable my list
> subscription due
> to "excessive bouncing".
>
> What does this exactly mean and why am I receiving this ?
> Beside re-enabling my subscription, what can I do to improve things ?
>
> Regards
>
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>
>
>
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

[John Novack]

Not just gmail
Happening as well with Comcast.net

My Comcast address is set to forward to another domain, as Comcast seems to now block 
sending mail with a non Comcast "from" address. they turned that on a couple 
years ago with no  notice.

John Novack


Jonathan H wrote:

Me too, also gmail. I emailed the list owner a couple of days ago, but no reply.

Is everyone else affected also forwarding to another email address
(gmail or not)?

Could be wrong, but I'm guessing there may be an incorrect DMARC
policy somewhere - although this is the only fail I could find in the
headers.

boun...@lists.digium.com;
dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com



On 12 June 2017 at 09:12, Steve Davies  wrote:

I am also getting this, three or four times in the last month after years of
no problems.

I agree that Gmail is the likely common factor, but I would love to have
access to these bounce messages to know whether it is actually an
overly-paranoid list server!

Steve

On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 at 09:09 Andrew Furey  wrote:

Ditto; a Gmail issue?

Andrew

On 12 June 2017 at 16:00, Marcelo Terres  wrote:

It is happening the same with me.

Regards,
Marcelo H. Terres 
IM: mhter...@jabber.mundoopensource.com.br
https://www.mundoopensource.com.br
https://twitter.com/mhterres
https://linkedin.com/in/marceloterres


On 12 June 2017 at 08:07, Olivier  wrote:

Hello,

I'm a faithful reader of this mailing list, for several years now.

Lately, I'm receiving emails asking me to re-enable my list
subscription due
to "excessive bouncing".

What does this exactly mean and why am I receiving this ?
Beside re-enabling my subscription, what can I do to improve things ?

Regards

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

[Jonathan H]

Me too, also gmail. I emailed the list owner a couple of days ago, but no reply.

Is everyone else affected also forwarding to another email address
(gmail or not)?

Could be wrong, but I'm guessing there may be an incorrect DMARC
policy somewhere - although this is the only fail I could find in the
headers.

boun...@lists.digium.com;
   dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com



On 12 June 2017 at 09:12, Steve Davies  wrote:
> I am also getting this, three or four times in the last month after years of
> no problems.
>
> I agree that Gmail is the likely common factor, but I would love to have
> access to these bounce messages to know whether it is actually an
> overly-paranoid list server!
>
> Steve
>
> On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 at 09:09 Andrew Furey  wrote:
>>
>> Ditto; a Gmail issue?
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On 12 June 2017 at 16:00, Marcelo Terres  wrote:
>>>
>>> It is happening the same with me.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Marcelo H. Terres 
>>> IM: mhter...@jabber.mundoopensource.com.br
>>> https://www.mundoopensource.com.br
>>> https://twitter.com/mhterres
>>> https://linkedin.com/in/marceloterres
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12 June 2017 at 08:07, Olivier  wrote:
>>> > Hello,
>>> >
>>> > I'm a faithful reader of this mailing list, for several years now.
>>> >
>>> > Lately, I'm receiving emails asking me to re-enable my list
>>> > subscription due
>>> > to "excessive bouncing".
>>> >
>>> > What does this exactly mean and why am I receiving this ?
>>> > Beside re-enabling my subscription, what can I do to improve things ?
>>> >
>>> > Regards
>>> >
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>>
>>
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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

[Daniel Tryba]

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 09:07:31AM +0200, Olivier wrote:
> Lately, I'm receiving emails asking me to re-enable my list subscription
> due to "excessive bouncing".
> 
> What does this exactly mean and why am I receiving this ?
> Beside re-enabling my subscription, what can I do to improve things ?

See my DMARC thread message:
http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2017-June/291545.html

Any DMARCed domain used for sending will cause bounces for recipients on
platforms that check and honor the DMARC configuration.

There may ofcourse be other causes.

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

[Steve Davies]

I am also getting this, three or four times in the last month after years
of no problems.

I agree that Gmail is the likely common factor, but I would love to have
access to these bounce messages to know whether it is actually an
overly-paranoid list server!

Steve

On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 at 09:09 Andrew Furey  wrote:

> Ditto; a Gmail issue?
>
> Andrew
>
> On 12 June 2017 at 16:00, Marcelo Terres  wrote:
>
>> It is happening the same with me.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Marcelo H. Terres 
>> IM: mhter...@jabber.mundoopensource.com.br
>> https://www.mundoopensource.com.br
>> https://twitter.com/mhterres
>> https://linkedin.com/in/marceloterres
>>
>>
>> On 12 June 2017 at 08:07, Olivier  wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I'm a faithful reader of this mailing list, for several years now.
>> >
>> > Lately, I'm receiving emails asking me to re-enable my list
>> subscription due
>> > to "excessive bouncing".
>> >
>> > What does this exactly mean and why am I receiving this ?
>> > Beside re-enabling my subscription, what can I do to improve things ?
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

[Andrew Furey]

Ditto; a Gmail issue?

Andrew

On 12 June 2017 at 16:00, Marcelo Terres  wrote:

> It is happening the same with me.
>
> Regards,
> Marcelo H. Terres 
> IM: mhter...@jabber.mundoopensource.com.br
> https://www.mundoopensource.com.br
> https://twitter.com/mhterres
> https://linkedin.com/in/marceloterres
>
>
> On 12 June 2017 at 08:07, Olivier  wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm a faithful reader of this mailing list, for several years now.
> >
> > Lately, I'm receiving emails asking me to re-enable my list subscription
> due
> > to "excessive bouncing".
> >
> > What does this exactly mean and why am I receiving this ?
> > Beside re-enabling my subscription, what can I do to improve things ?
> >
> > Regards
> >
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> >
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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Explain where mailing list bouncing comes from ?

[Marcelo Terres]

It is happening the same with me.

Regards,
Marcelo H. Terres 
IM: mhter...@jabber.mundoopensource.com.br
https://www.mundoopensource.com.br
https://twitter.com/mhterres
https://linkedin.com/in/marceloterres


On 12 June 2017 at 08:07, Olivier  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm a faithful reader of this mailing list, for several years now.
>
> Lately, I'm receiving emails asking me to re-enable my list subscription due
> to "excessive bouncing".
>
> What does this exactly mean and why am I receiving this ?
> Beside re-enabling my subscription, what can I do to improve things ?
>
> Regards
>
> --
> _
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>
> Check out the new Asterisk community forum at:
> https://community.asterisk.org/
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