Hi Tom
You are correct and no it hasn’t changed. The Handicap committee members have
currently:
· One JS1 – previously LS8, ASW 22, Ventus 2CX, ASW 19b. In all of
which he has won National Competitions. Just won the 18m pre-Worlds in an
ASG29. (I think it is the pilot not the a/c)
·
Hi Nigel
I seem to remember that Bruce won the 2009 18m class at the Waikerie
Nationals in Butch's old Ventus 2CX, beating all the ASG 29's.
Probably more to do with the pilot than the aircraft I would guess.
Cheers, ROSS
-Original Message-
From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
Hi Ross,
I understand that the HC was reviewing handicaps, mainly to update and/or
correct anomalies resulting from incorrect original input data, new data,
manufacturer's changes to designs, and such like, rather than making radical
changes.
In a volunteer organisation, it is not surprising
Folk,
Having now had the oppurtunity to fly a competitive Std class glider FQF
(LS8) after many years campaigning GOD (19M Jantar) in the one class you
could fly (Sports Class) with any hope of a competitive result, I would ask
that if there is any review underway of Sports Class handicaps that
Michael,
may the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits, plastic with wood ? I
dont think so..surely you can compete in club class with the old asg29's and
ventus types cant you ?
have a nice day
regards
JR
( no offence was intended during the writing of this
ROSS learn how to post by editing the subject line?
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=subject+linel=aus-soaring%40lists.internode.on.net
!
http://www.mail-archive.com/aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net/msg01878.html
Still awaiting the DUO cheat
Hi Gary Mike D
Thanks for your emails, very much appreciated. I have referred them to the
Handicap Committee for discussion and will respond back to this forum with
their thoughts and comments asap.
As Bruce is still returning from Uvalde (with a very heavy 18m 1st Place
winner’s trophy) it
Hi Mal,
Please note my subject line!
Re the Cheat Trophy, - given that you felt/still feel so strongly about this -
I sent you an email some time back (as you well know), outlining some positive
steps that you could take to legally and impartially resolve this issue (one
way or another) - EVEN
Thanks Ross. Yeah winning the trophy is a heavy cross to bear, but I guess
Bruce will cope! Incidentally I liked Butch's alternative take on winning -
keep a low profile this year, and then come from nowhere and win. Lets hope
that Bruce, and other Aussies can repeat the performance next year,
Or any glider Mike!
From: Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 2's
At 01:43 PM
I think it is great that Schleicher has sold eleven ASG 29's in six
weeks, i think it is great that Schempp's have had a lot of duo and
Arcus sales over the last couple of years, i sure as hell hope that DG
keeps its sales up, I think it is great that JS are up to number 30
odd already, I do not
On 17/08/11 21:14, Michael Durrant wrote:
Folk,
Having now had the oppurtunity to fly a competitive Std class
glider FQF (LS8) after many years campaigning GOD (19M Jantar)
in the one class you could fly (Sports Class) with any hope of a
Hello Tom, hello Mike
An empty weight reduction is no longer a dream but reality.
The empty weight of the ASG 29 is already a lot lower than any
of its competitors but on top of that Schleicher offers a SL (Super
Light) version.
Using a more expensive (but substantionally lighter) composite
Queensland State Comps update.
Hi All,
Lots happening at Warwick in preparation for the upcoming competition
September 24th to October 1st. Newly renovated toilets and shower facilities
at the club, camping area clear and ready for caravans and tents. New paving
around the clubhouse with a BBQ
Dear Harry
I have the greatest respect for you and for your achievements and generosity
towards the gliding movement over the years and I am sure this view is shared
by the majority of us.
Thank you for your email below and thank you for your submission to the NCC re
the handicaps between 18m
Hi Robert
I note that the Nimbus 2 has a handicap equivalent to an ASW20. The Nimbus
4DM has the same handicap as an ASG29.
ROSS
From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Robert Hart
Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2011 7:46
Hi Gary Mike D
As promised I have asked the Handicap Committee to review your comments
regarding the current handicaps.
Firstly, Re Mike Durrant’s comments, the handicap Committee takes handicap
complaints seriously, they assess the gliders performance and polar carefully
and usually err
Hi all,
I support and applaud the work of the handicap committee who do a
terrific job in difficult and contentious circumstances.
Handicaps work by reducing performance differences measured according to
competition results, because that's what they adjust - handicaps don't
adjust the polar
The handicap generally is the wetware residing in the cockpit.
Mike
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Ditto!
I am hanging out for the 850kg/23M JS?!!
From: Ron Sanders resand...@gmail.com
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2011 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 2's
I
European handicaps are for weak weather.
I flew a Nimbus4 last year in Szeged - on the practice days I had absolutely no
problem passing Graham and David in their 18M gliders, If I had been in my 29 I
MIGHT have been able to keep up!
There is no perfect handicap system.
Tom
Hi all,
Anita and Bruce Taylor asked me to post the following on Bruce’s behalf:
From: akauffm...@bigpond.com [mailto:akauffm...@bigpond.com]
Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2011 1:10 PM
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Subject: 18m gliders
Hello. As you know, we are travelling at the
Ross, Tim Tom between them reflect the range of views across the
gliding community on handicapping. These beliefs have been around since
the dawn of time.
In a perfect world, to which some subscribe, indeed the individual's
wallet should be the leveller.
From the 1970s to the 1990s a
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