Re: [Aus-soaring] AEF fees, Funding, and the Demise of Gliding

2011-09-08 Thread emilis prelgauskas
Thank you Tim for setting it out so clearly, if GFA would couch its mission statement in such clear terms then the 80% could fade away knowing it was policy. I suspect my definition of 'healthy' just differs from yours. I am quite sure you are on the winning side. On 08/09/2011, at 8:43 AM,

Re: [Aus-soaring] AEF fees, Funding, and the Demise of Gliding

2011-09-08 Thread Stuart Kerri FERGUSON
Tim, As usual you hit the nail on the head J it is about the service. Problem is that the service levels are inconsistent, some instructor, duty pilot combinations treat visitors like VIPs and enjoy showing off their club and our sport, others do not. Not sure how you improve this

Re: [Aus-soaring] AEF fees, Funding, and the Demise of Gliding

2011-09-08 Thread Mike Timbrell
We might start by getting feedback from students about instructors. The way it is now, once you get a ticket you are there for as long as you want. Dud or not. Mike From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Stuart

Re: [Aus-soaring] AEF fees, Funding, and the Alleged Demise of Gliding

2011-09-08 Thread Drew GMail
Good thread! Stu, you are right, and you Tim. It is about service, and meeting the needs of the participants, not the bureaucracy. Respect for the people who are either ticking off the bucket list, indulging in an experience, conquering fears, enjoying a tasteror experiment, assessing their

[Aus-soaring] Darling Downs weather for the weekend of 10 - 11 September 2011 - updated

2011-09-08 Thread Robert Hart
Hi folks The updated weekend forecast is available at http://the-white-knight-speaks.blogspot.com The incoming rain is already visible on the radar (6am) but the band is relatively thin. It will be fine and windy all weekend, with Saturday showing

Re: [Aus-soaring] AEF fees, Funding, and the Demise of Gliding

2011-09-08 Thread rolf a. buelter
Hi Tim, Your post undoubtedly contains some uncomfortable truths. Under your proposed business model however there would have been no way for me to get into gliding and I wonder about others, including yourself. Rgds - Rolf Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 09:13:00 +1000 From: tshir...@internode.on.net

[Aus-soaring] AEF fees

2011-09-08 Thread harry medlicott
Hi All There is a great deal of truth in all the AEF postings. The need for more GFA funds, largely due to a lack of income resulting from a decline in membership - the ability to pay by mostly near city clubs who have a large customer base willing to pay for an adventure type flight - the

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aging Glider Fleet article

2011-09-08 Thread Ruth Patching
Good morning all, I thought the thread might be interesting reading. Trouble is that both sides are right to a point and you just gotta love frank discussion!!! On one hand there are the people who remember how it was and the other, people who are in the now aspect of gliding. That to me seems

[Aus-soaring] Precision flying

2011-09-08 Thread Future Aviation
Good morning all Please enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOE5a_HIEFcfeature=player_embedded Kind regards to all Bernard ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit:

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aging Glider Fleet article

2011-09-08 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 10:44 AM 9/09/2011, you wrote: Imagine if the powers that be rigidly set out how a club should operate They already do. Every club shall be a training club. May have been somewhat sensible up until 1980 or so. Not so nowadays. The Aero clubs in Australia used to be training clubs too but

[Aus-soaring] Bundaberg Airshow Re: AEF fee

2011-09-08 Thread Peter Stephenson
I went to the Bundaberg Airshow show (which was excellent) and was disappointed not to see the glider display as advertised. Do you have a Wilga tow plane? PeterS On 8/09/2011 11:24 AM, Grant Davies wrote: Just

Re: [Aus-soaring] Bundaberg Airshow Re: AEF fee

2011-09-08 Thread Grant Davies
Hi Peter, Did you see our stand? We had my Twin Astir and the simulator there. The display was supposed to be Nigel in his Fox I think. We didn't organise it. Not sure what happened there as to why they didn't turn up. Maybe to windy to make the trip up from Boonah under tow. There are

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aging Glider Fleet article

2011-09-08 Thread Jim Staniforth
Some foreign observations for reference or the bin:   Annual SSA dues are currently less than 25% of GFA dues, but it would have been about 50% if the US dollar was worth the paper it's printed on. No pile of paperwork needs to be purchased for an Annual Inspection for Standard registration or a