Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-26 Thread Michael Scutter
John, that is really interesting. Have you sampled more than one battery or repeated the test on the same battery?   Michael Scutter, Education Training Consultant, Email: michael_scut...@yahoo.com.au Mobile: 0417822330  (Int +614178223300) skype://michaelscutter I don't say anything here

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-26 Thread Jim Staniforth
Repeat of old info?   The batteries in the new Schempps are sold on the accu-24.de website.   Bernard, Schleicher #27053 has the Tenergy LiFePO4 batteries in the usual place. Still has the old school batteries in the tail, which needs the weight.   The Shorai is the wrong chemistry, unless you're

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-26 Thread Luke Dodd
I have been trialling the shorai and can support Johns assessement . Shorai rate their capacities on a cold cranking equivalent, its is entirely misleading if you are looking for a battery to supply a steady current over a long period of time. Their 14 ah will not supply 14ah for 1 hour or 1 ah

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-26 Thread Scott Penrose
I don't have any graphs or deep knowledge to back my decisions up, but personally I have moved back to SLA. In my glider I have used NiMH with some success, but the lifetime of the batteries (9Ah D cells with solder tabs) was only 2 years, and very expensive.. I think you have to be a lot more

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-26 Thread Future Aviation
Hi Luke, hello Scott Thank you both for your input. It is valuable and very much appreciated - just keep it coming!!! This highly relevant information is useful for most (if not all) glider pilots on this list. Kind regards to all! Bernard _ From:

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-26 Thread Mike Borgelt
As I said yesterday, do proper engineering on your battery installation. If you don't have real numbers for temperature limits, discharge curves at various rates, charging characteristics etc etc you aren't doing engineering, you're just guessing. A battery designed to start a racing motorbike

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-26 Thread Scott Penrose
Hi Mike. Really glad you mentioned the quoted rate, I forgot to mention that, as it is how I got better batteries in my glider - point being of course that it doesn't matter if SLA, NiMH or Li* - you have to check those discharge rates, and temperature curves. We recently sent equipment to

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-26 Thread Future Aviation
Hello all It just occurred to me that I have omitted to thank John Parncutt for his research and his willingness to share the findings with us. Of course, in this context Mike Borgelt's professional advice must also be mentioned. Both contributions are extremely useful to many of my gliding

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2013-02-26 Thread Future Aviation
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Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-26 Thread Arie van Spronssen
Hi, When people start talking of glider batteries I laugh at their logic. We have a toy that cost anywhere between 2 - 10k and upwards to keep in the air each year(not including getting to and from the airfield and actually getting it in the air) and they are not willing to replace a couple