If you fly over seas you need a medical. If you have no desire to fly overseas,
don't get a medical.
I think there may be instances of GA pilots, can't pass their medical but the
drivers licence bench mark allows them to fly/instruct.
Michael
On 1 Sep 2014, at 3:27 pm, Matt Gage
Michael,
The Recreational Licence medical to which I think you refer is
actually a heavy vehicle driver's licence medical with some
additional CASA requirements. The actual medical standards are
EXACTLY the same as as a Class 2 medical. If you can honestly answer
the questions and come up to
Hnm! Bet that will draw blank looks!!
Michael
On 1 Sep 2014, at 3:58 pm, Matthew Scutter yellowplant...@gmail.com wrote:
I would be interested to learn if I can fly an Australian registered glider
overseas with an Australian Glider Pilot's licence...
On 1 Sep 2014 16:17, Mike
Alternatively if you want to fly in Europe, get a medical history letter from
your Gp and you can fly to the UK and see an AME there and get a LAPL easa
medical which is less stringent than a class 2.
A DAME here in Australia cannot issue this. With the LAPL medical you can then
fly a glider
There is no conspiracy here but I admit it is a bit Pythonish!
To fly gliders in Australia one only needs to comply with CAO 95.4. For GFA
members, there is no requirement to hold a licence in order to fly gliders.
You don't even need a GPC to fly gliders unless you want to exercise the
I think there are two issues here.
There are people who may wish to travel OS and fly gliders solo for
their own pleasure. They will need some temporary or permanent
validation or recognition of their home country qualifications.
Then there are competitors in recognised, sanctioned,
Very nice, now why don't you answer Simon's question?
Mike
At 06:40 PM 1/09/2014, you wrote:
There is no conspiracy here but I admit it is a bit Pythonish!
To fly gliders in Australia one only needs to comply with CAO 95.4. For GFA
members, there is no requirement to hold a licence in
Last para.
.obtain overseas qualifications
I thought an Australian AGL would/should allow me to fly a glider in the UK,
just as my Australian drivers licence allowed me to use and operate a vehicle
there during a visit.
Pythonish? They admitted that a lot of their ideas came from
Yes, Christopher.
What is the agenda/reasoning? GFA's or CASA's.
Chris
Sent from my iPad
On 1 Sep 2014, at 7:02 pm, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com
wrote:
Very nice, now why don't you answer Simon's question?
Mike
At 06:40 PM 1/09/2014, you wrote:
There is no
I'm sure Simon will be happy to confirm that he and I corresponded on this
issue yesterday.
From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mike
Borgelt
Sent: Monday, 1 September 2014 7:03 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to
Chris, GFA wanted a way to make it easy for its members to get their Australian
qualifications recognised overseas. It has achieved this with the assistance
of CASA.
From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of
And ..obtain overseas qualifications..
Did you mean have an Australian Licence recognised overseas unreservedly?
Otherwise it is not worth much.
Chris
Sent from my iPad
On 1 Sep 2014, at 8:44 pm, Christopher Thorpe ctho...@bigpond.com wrote:
Chris, GFA wanted a way to make it easy
Regards the UK medical for the LAPL, are you sure you can not do it here? I can
do my UK ATPL medical here with a UK approved Australian DAME?
Otherwise the contributor who said it was all a crock of shit scored a bullseye.
RS
On 1 Sep 2014, at 17:52, Christopher McDonnelll
They sent me a list of approved DAME and the nearest one was in Auckland.
Bullseye.
Jim Crowhurst
Ron wrote
Regards the UK medical for the LAPL, are you sure you can not do it here? I can
do my UK ATPL medical here with a UK approved Australian DAME?
Otherwise the contributor who
Hi Simon
You have raised a very valid point here!
I have often wondered why one can have all the qualifications in the world
but cannot operate a glider in
Australia independently and without instructor oversight. As far as I know
Australia is the only first
world country that denies their
-Original Message-
From: Future Aviation
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 7:38 AM
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Hi Simon
You have raised a very valid point here!
I have
So why didn't you publicly reply to Simon's PUBLIC question on this
forum? There is clearly public interest in the topic.
As you seem keen to obfuscate by answering other questions I'll copy
Simon's question here:
I'm interested in what possible reason the GFA would have, today, to *not*
to
Bernard,
How's the dual control check after rigging thing going? Get rid of
that and have a PPL(G) and you might even get to sell a few more self
launchers.
Mike
At 07:38 AM 2/09/2014, you wrote:
Hi Simon
You have raised a very valid point here!
I have often wondered why one can have
On 2 September 2014 07:38, Future Aviation ec...@internode.on.net wrote:
Simon, can you (and other members of this newsgroup) let me in on your
thinking, please?
Bernard
There were about 80 emails written on this topic over the last few days all
saying about the same thing, all written by
Hi group
Is there any person or organisation selling Polyurethane wing tip skids in
Australia? or are we all importing them from USA ?
I have the molds, but not the time or inclination to make them at the
moment.
Many thanks
Chris Runeckles
GCWA
___
I have often wondered why one can have all the qualifications in the
world but cannot operate a glider in Australia independently and without
instructor oversight.
[...]
Isn't it time that suitably qualified glider pilots are treated just
like glider pilots in other parts of the
HI
Did you not get my message yesterday?
Skids from Graeme Greed
GCV Workshop gcvworks...@benalla.net.au
Regards,
John Orton
On 2 September 2014 08:58, Chris Runeckles cmruneck...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi group
Is there any person or organisation selling Polyurethane wing tip skids in
How many are you after Chris?
I have been making them for Kingaroy SC and a few private people for a little
while now.
Have had them on my Std Cirrus for a couple of years now with no problems.
Unfortunately don't have any photos at the moment, but if you ask Wooley Pup
nicely I'm sure he can
Hi John
yes I got your answer thank you, I sent him an email and he has not
responded yet.
Have a good holiday
Chris
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:08 AM, John Orton johno...@gmail.com wrote:
HI
Did you not get my message yesterday?
Skids from Graeme Greed
GCV Workshop
Hi John
thanks for the response to my enquiry.
I am chasing 4 tip skids, how much would they cost including freight to
Perth Please ?
Many thanks
KInd Regards
Chris Runeckles
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:09 AM, John Eddy john...@bigpond.com wrote:
How many are you after Chris?
I have been
I haven't seen a reason given yet. I've seen
evasion, obfuscation, less than the whole truth and stonewalling.
I've met and done business with quite a few
people who are PPLs or higher who have
contemplated going gliding. Some own several
powered aircraft and their own airfields even but
Thanks Mike!
Cheers,
WPP
On 2 Sep 2014, at 11:11, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com wrote:
Adam,
It looks to be a motorcycle/race car starting battery. Different duty cycle
from glider batteries.
The lithium technology is unmentioned. Anything that isn't LiFePO4 (lithium
At 11:02 AM 2/09/2014, you wrote:
Let's stick to the facts please. A Level 2 Independent Operators Rating does
that and with less bureaucracy and overregulation than in other parts of
the world. It is also a product of the GFA - let's acknowledge that.
No, you are still under an instructor
On Sep 2, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Paul Bart pb2...@gmail.com wrote:
You say When our newcomers realise that they will always be treated as
second class aviators we can't blame them when they vote with their feet.
Well I have been involved in gliding for some fourteen years now, with a
Wrong chemistry?
You probably want LiFePO4.
2000 cycles. 12.8V 10A/H is ~1.2kg.
I've put 30AH LiFePO4 in the last 2 gliders. Running a full panel
including flight computer, full VGA display, backup vario, COM, TXP
(even the old Mode C rubbish), FLARM it'll go for about 18 hours.
Jim
On
Thanks Mark.
Best post so far or at least the one that agrees with my thinking.
My fit is:
For others, emotional reward comes from making contributions. We’re the people
who instruct or serve on committees or get airworthiness credentials. For us,
the philosophy of the GFA does matter, a bit,
Mike, you are probably referring to the L1 IO rating (which in my opinion
should be abolished - why should anyone be responsible for my flying unless
I am in training).
The current MOSP says:
13.2 LEVEL 2 'UNRESTRICTED' INDEPENDENT OPERATOR
Unlike the Level 1 Independent Operator authority,
An L2 independent operator is required to be supervised when club operations
are in play and they are a member of that club. Particularly when a tow is
required it is impossible to be independent by definition. In a self-launcher
you could argue the case but you have to live in the club
Hello Paul
Thank you! This is the sort of feedback I was hoping for.
If my interpretation of this tread is correct previous discussions revolved
mainly about competition licences and not
about operations of competent glider pilots without instructor oversight.
Let’s put this side issue
Hi Paul,
On 02/09/2014, Paul Bart pb2...@gmail.com wrote:
Frankly, I am more interested in maintaining a simple and inexpensive
system to fly gliders in Australia. Given the fragile state of of
participation in gliding I fear that any rise in complexity and / or cost
will simply drive more
On Sep 2, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Robert Izatt thebunyipboo...@gmail.com wrote:
An L2 independent operator is required to be supervised when club
operations are in play and they are a member of that club. Particularly when
a tow is required it is impossible to be independent by definition. In a
You don't need to be supervised to get a tow but you can't be independent if
the tow pilot is part of a club operation and the L2 Instructor says so. I am
presuming the why was rhetorical. I haven't flown for two years as the club
which I joined 12 years ago when it was insolvent and in debt
IS there a JS1 owner on this list who wouldn't mind publishing what brand /
type their LiFePO4 and charger is?
(I've seen the battery but did not take the details at that time..)
thank you
Erich
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Mike Borgelt
mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com wrote:
Adam,
It
Hi Bernard
No I do not.
Firstly, the issue of a check flight. I do not see that the two situations
are analogous. Generally, but granted not exclusively, the check flight is
for pilots wishing to fly a club aircraft. I think that every club has the
right to protect their equipment. Secondly, a
At 01:44 PM 2/09/2014, you wrote:
I don't understand why a few friends can't get gliding licenses, buy a
low-performance 2nd hand glider, and winch launch from a paddock
somewhere. You don't need to have an instructor present to have fun in
a boat or an ultralight. You don't even need to be in
Nobody is proposing that the gliding
communes/collectives be banned. I couldn't care
less what they do. Good luck to them. They do
have a certain rustic charm as living museums.
I do, however, object to them being made
compulsory and having the powers of the State
behind them to prohibit
On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Paul Bart pb2...@gmail.com wrote:
Finally a number of posters indicated that we may be losing potential glider
pilots, because the GFA rules, yet I see people turning their backs on power
flying, often citing cost (medicals etc.) and complexity as a reason. I do
Hi Mark
I was not referring to the actual cost of a medical. That can easily be
sourced, and you have provided it here. My point referred to what people
leave and why.
Cheers
Paul
On 2 September 2014 15:00, Mark Newton new...@atdot.dotat.org wrote:
On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Paul Bart
The question remains, why can’t properly licensed glider pilots be treated
exactly like fully licensed power pilots?
Please… fully licensed SAILPLANE pilots!
Hang glider and paraglider pilots having passed the novice stage can
turn up at a take off, assess the weather and if they consider
Hi Mark
Thank you for a detailed and logical post. Frankly I do not think I would
take issue with most points you make. I simply think my personal experience
is different. I am not a member of any other flying organisation so I
cannot compare.
The fact is that I do not see that GFA impedes what
On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Paul Bart pb2...@gmail.com wrote:
I was not referring to the actual cost of a medical. That can easily be
sourced, and you have provided it here. My point referred to what people
leave and why.
I’ve already told you why I consider leaving, and it’s to do with
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