I would imagine that having the winch at the glider end and running the
wire/rope/whatever through a pulley would create a lot of drag and wear on the
part of the line that runs the full length of the strip to the pulley. Given
your average Aussie dirt strip the wear rate might be unacceptable.
Apologies... it was Paul Mander in the ASH 25 at Leeton.
BT
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From: Bruce Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus
Robert,
Winching is much more common overseas than here in Oz, and they regularly
send fully ballasted open class gliders up on the wire. As with aerotowing
using motorgliders, it is mostly the initial ground run that is slower than
normal. Once the glider is in the air the difference in
Tim,
A well made point, but there is an issue aside. At Kingaroy, there was a
resounding vote AGAINST changing to a height limited start rule, and although I
was not present at the Temora pilot's meeting, I am told that the feeling was
very much let's look at the alternatives rather than let's
before takeoff.
Pam
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Sent: Saturday, 7 June 2008 12:41 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] FW: Starting Procedure
I can only agree with Harry and Pam
I can only agree with Harry and Pam. We should not try to set a height limit
below cloudbase; for all the reasons already put it would be irresponsible to
do so. But a limit some small height above cloudbase solves all the problems.
What height? Remember that we are attempting to quell any
Firstly a great big thank you to Gerrit, for his insight into the start
procedure dilemma - if it isn't broken, why fix it?
Tim, I agree completely that there is no issue with putting wave and cloud
flying out of play, despite the fact that gaining advantage from using such
techniques is
Just wondering if there is general knowledge of the new start procedures for
Aussie nationals? I first heard of it last w/e at Kingaroy.
Seems we will be both height and speed limited - obviously one must not be
implemented without the other, and all this with the same style of beer can
start
Hi Ross,
I apologise if I have spoken out of turn, but I was under the impression that
this start rule change was already in situ - you sent me a draft copy for the
new operation guide, so does this mean that we are far from setting all of this
in concrete? It feels to most of us, including
Maybe everyone else has already seen this, but if not, go to www.sinhatech.com/
for some interesting reading.
The last two issues of Soaring have had Dick Johnson's tests of a Standard
Cirrus fitted with this deturbulator system, and the results are pretty
significant. Best L/D improved by
Well he is a lazy Pommy Git isn't he? Always grizzling about something or
other.
Hey Jim, what do we need to do about the '19 handicap? (Apart from
grizzling)
BT
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I am sure that this is NOT the case. We can accommodate any glider that sits
anywhere on the handicap range, and if it does not actually appear on the
current list, then all you need do is send a note to Tobi Geiger and we will
put it there, then away you go!
The intention is to separate
Hi Adam,
I just had a look for a Johnson test on the LS1, as I'm a member, but the
first LS glider he tested was the LS3 in Nov 1979.
I have to agree with Mike though - your best bet is to do carefully
controlled comparison flights with another glider that you know will remain
in similar
As a slight aside, I once witnessed a fatal mid-air in Germany, where the
PIC of the disabled glider was trying desperately to get the canopy open...
by opening and closing the water dump lever, located immediately adjacent to
the canopy jettison in the old Discus. From above, his intentions
Yes, poor Don... he only came 5th in his first multiclass nationals in his
lowly Pik. I know you don't want Jenni to hear it, but you really don't need
anything better. And the winner was in a worn out LS3. Maybe there are some
more handicaps need fixing.
However, if you have money to spend, I
I agree with Jeremy, and I agree with Tim. Certainly WE are the GFA, there is
a problem, and the problem is collectively ours.
A few of these fatalities have disturbing undertones, and simply show signs of
poor awareness and training.
So, I propose that we all keep our guard up, and be brave
Apologies to Emilis... I have to say the IS32 is surely the worst thing I have
flown. It is tin (which leaks at 12,000 feet in wave causing frozen pilots), it
has no feel, the rudder is too small and the flaps don't actually do anything,
plus it is uncomfortable. I'd like to say that it has a
Obviously we will have to look at Kinky Wings handicaps now, as two V2CX's in
the first couple of places must mean we have got it wrong! Surely it has
nothing to do with the pilots...
BT
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From: Chris Kiehn
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent:
Personal preference is for polarised lenses, in particular the American
Suntigers, as I think they show more detail in the base of clouds and bring up
haze domes quite clearly. Only exception was flying in the mountains in France,
when I found a pair of Serengeti driving glasses were very good
Hi Owen,
The US has an active Auxiliary Powered Sailplane group with a web site at:
http://mysite.verizon.net/engreenwell/ASA/index.html
From what I have seen in the past they have some good articles and
publications available from the site that might help you get started. If you
have any
Hey Mitch... I can feel a cartoon coming on... Witness pre-solo pilot
fiddling with the switches, Holy sh**, how do you turn this thing off?...
Cripes, what was that just went past?
BT
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From: Mitchell Preston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of
Thanks to all for the reverse pulley advice and help. Very suddenly I have a
lot of stuff to work with, and most of it looks good. As the glider hasn't
(quite) arrived yet, I have some time to mull over it all and make a plan.
If you read about me in the news you'll know it didn't go too
Does anyone out there have any info or experience with reverse pulley
launching? Our plan is to use a car on a limited length airfield to launch
an unballasted 15m glider. I do remember an article in an old AG some years
back, but can't find it immediately. Any help with pulley construction,
I think you should ask Mitch Turner about the gaggle spin scenario, and how
to cope with it...
BT
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From: Mitchell Preston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 13,
Just wanted to put in my 2 cents worth, but I think most already know my
opinion on this subject.
Historically we don't see pilots mess up from 10 feet at 120 kts - what we
DO see is pilots succumb to Darwinnian selection by arriving in the circuit
area at 100 feet and 50 kts with no plans.
In my experience it takes some time for my body to become accustomed to
dealing with high levels of fluid intake and loss. The effect is that if I
did no prior preparation, I would almost certainly be dehydrated at some
level during the first few days of a flying session, comp or whatever.
] Libelle Canopy Lock
Nimbus drivers - aren't they the glider pilots with extraordinary
quadriceps resulting from all that rudder action? I seem to recall that
Bruce Taylor could do squats with a fully-stocked fridge on each shoulder
while he owned GEL.
MP.
On 24/01/2007, at 8:07 PM, Patching
Hi All,
I have recently decided to stand down from the Aussie Cambridge agency.
Various reasons, but I am sure the populous will be content in knowing that
Macca will be left in charge, as he has been for some zillion years. I do
have some things that need to be moved on, and will advertise
My guess is that they would all be grandmothers by now...
BT
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From: Stuart Kerri FERGUSON
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:52 AM
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Book Idea
Allan - you will have
Yes, of course it was a wonderful result. Very well done Kerrie! And to have
done it amongst those big hills makes it even more impressive. What I really
want to know is this... now that the Aussie victories on foreign soil really
do outnumber the losses on home soil, can I be forgiven?
BT
Tim,
I agree with most of what you are saying, and find that it is very rare to
have the Flarm alert me of a threat that I didn't already recognise.
However, as I have related previously there was one instance a couple of
years ago that led to a near miss head-on between myself and Tony
an all electric panel, and
the thought crossed my mind, if you had an electrical failure you would be
up shite creek, regardless of what the next turnpoint was, and for that
reason alone a little winter tucked away on the panel is a good thing.
regards JR
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From: Bruce Taylor
I have my audio set so that it breaks tone right on zero, and I find that
quite satisfactory, even in very light lift. Once again, the only thing that
really matters is what the averager is saying, and in this situation you are
looking for it to stay positive.
I still have a Winter vario on
Hi All,
I was imagining I might be able to stay silent, but I can't help myself...
Please, no offence to Mike or any others, it is just that we all see things
slightly differently, thank heavens.
I don't think I ever watch the vario needle while flying. I would very
happily fly at any level
I'm sure there is a joke here just waiting to be had...
BT
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:19 PM
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Wanted - Ventus b 16.6 left wing
Hi,
If anyone knows of a spare/unused
Not so silly as it sounds... Usually we carry way
too much rubbish in the cockpit, and spend too much time playing with it. I
recently stuck my head into a brand new cockpit and found 2 x Glide computers, 2
x PDA systems, a Flarm, plus all the usual extras - the panel was full to
I might be boasting, but I've seen well over 400
kph on my GPS!! Downwind with about 100knots on the tail at 25,000 feet in NZ a
few years back. Then you turn into wind and slow down and it still says about
120 kph... backwards!!
BT
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From:
Todd
But Lego and Meccano don't fly... obviously the gliding season hasn't
started yet!
BT.
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From: Robert Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:41 AM
Yeah, I've got a burned ASW19 he can have... trouble is, he'd still fly it
pretty fast! I would give it to him at the right price though.
Bruce.
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From: Philip Ritchie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Aus-soaring aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 23,
the list at
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When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than Re: Contents of Aus-soaring digest...
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Container space from US (Bruce Taylor)
2. Re: Container space from US (Tom Gilbert)
3. RE: Who knows... (Mark
I have recently bought a glider from the east coast
of the US, and would be very happy to share containerspace for shipping
out of Baltimore, sometime in the next couple of months.
Quotes are around $6k total from there to Sydney.
Go buy a new glider soon!!
Cheers, Bruce.
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From:
Bruce Taylor
To: Discussion of issues
relating to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:05
PM
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Container space
from US
I have recently bought a glider from the east
coast of the US, and would be very happy
You just don't like hard
work!
Tom
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From:
Bruce Taylor
To: Discussion of issues
relating to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 9:04
AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Container
space from US
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