of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no
clothes
At 11:02 AM 2/09/2014, you wrote:
Let's stick to the facts please. A Level 2 Independent Operators Rating
does
that and with less bureaucracy and overregulation than in other
, 2014 10:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Ullrich,
Rob Izatt is correct.
when operating independently is the catch phrase.
Don't forget also that an L2 independent operator
I’ve already told you why I consider leaving
Yes you did, so what (no disrespect)? You are one individual. It is your
right.
For most members, it’s either get behind GFA or be grounded.
But most members just may be happy with that. And that is my point, there
is no evidence, besides quoting
On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Paul Bart pb2...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you for a detailed and logical post. Frankly I do not think I would
take issue with most points you make. I simply think my personal experience
is different. I am not a member of any other flying organisation so I cannot
And the dichotomous ironies continue….
Justification for self-regulation/administration and lowered medical standards
for gliders have been won using the low mass, low speed and low passenger
capacity arguments.
Perversely, suggest that a glider pilot should be able to be responsible for
: Tuesday, 2 September 2014 13:02
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
An L2 independent operator is required to be supervised when club
operations are in play and they are a member of that club
On Sep 2, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Paul Bart pb2...@gmail.com wrote:
For most members, it’s either get behind GFA or be grounded.
But most members just may be happy with that. And that is my point, there
is no evidence, besides quoting few individual cases, to suggest that it is
GFA that is
That’s just Imposter Syndrome. Alan Barnes knows Ingo would be doing 12.
:)
Bugger, suddenly I am third-class :)
Cheers
Paul
On 2 September 2014 16:06, Mark Newton new...@atdot.dotat.org wrote:
On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Paul Bart pb2...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you for a detailed and
On 2 September 2014 18:06, Mark Newton new...@atdot.dotat.org wrote:
What’s with that?
As I do not know I'll withdraw
Cheers
Paul
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On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Paul Bart pb2...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you for a detailed and logical post. Frankly I do not think I would
take issue with most points
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On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Paul Bart pb2...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you for a detailed and logical post. Frankly I
: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Hi Simon
You have raised a very valid point here!
I have often wondered why one can have all the qualifications in the world
but cannot operate a glider in Australia independently and without
instructor oversight. As far as I know
] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt
Sent: Tuesday, 2 September 2014 11:07
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
At 11:02 AM 2/09/2014, you wrote:
Let's stick to the facts please. A Level 2 Independent Operators
: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
At 11:02 AM 2/09/2014, you wrote:
Let's stick to the facts please. A Level 2 Independent Operators Rating does
that and with less bureaucracy and overregulation than in other parts of
the world. It is also a product
:07
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
At 11:02 AM 2/09/2014, you wrote:
Let's stick to the facts please. A Level 2 Independent Operators Rating does
that and with less bureaucracy
] On Behalf Of Mike
Borgelt
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
At 11:02 AM 2/09/2014, you wrote:
Let's stick to the facts please. A Level 2 Independent
:
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mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Future
Aviation Sent: Tuesday, 2 September 2014 07:08 To: 'Discussion of issues
relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition
licenses - the emperor has
On Sep 3, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Ulrich Stauss usta...@internode.on.net wrote:
· That is a very ‘elastic’ phrase (which should be better defined).
If you use club equipment or want to fly from a club owned airfield you are
of course dependent on their whims. Even the “proper” licensing
.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
At 11:02 AM 2/09/2014, you wrote:
Let's stick to the facts please. A Level 2 Independent Operators Rating does
that and with less bureaucracy and overregulation than in other parts of
the world. It is also a product
At 01:24 PM 3/09/2014, you wrote:
In the GFA system, if you hire an aircraft and violate the terms of
your hire, any instructor can, at their option, write a logbook
annotation which grounds you. The grounding takes immediate effect,
and applies to all of your flying nationally, including
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At 11:02 AM 2/09/2014, you wrote:
Let's stick to the facts please. A Level 2 Independent
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On Sep 3, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Ulrich Stauss
:07
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no
clothes
At 11:02 AM 2/09/2014, you wrote:
Let's stick to the facts please. A Level 2 Independent Operators Rating
does
that and with less bureaucracy
has never
declared the regions as required by Rule 1.
Chris
From: Mike Borgelt
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 10:49 AM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Ullrich,
Rob Izatt is correct
If you fly over seas you need a medical. If you have no desire to fly overseas,
don't get a medical.
I think there may be instances of GA pilots, can't pass their medical but the
drivers licence bench mark allows them to fly/instruct.
Michael
On 1 Sep 2014, at 3:27 pm, Matt Gage
Michael,
The Recreational Licence medical to which I think you refer is
actually a heavy vehicle driver's licence medical with some
additional CASA requirements. The actual medical standards are
EXACTLY the same as as a Class 2 medical. If you can honestly answer
the questions and come up to
Hnm! Bet that will draw blank looks!!
Michael
On 1 Sep 2014, at 3:58 pm, Matthew Scutter yellowplant...@gmail.com wrote:
I would be interested to learn if I can fly an Australian registered glider
overseas with an Australian Glider Pilot's licence...
On 1 Sep 2014 16:17, Mike
Alternatively if you want to fly in Europe, get a medical history letter from
your Gp and you can fly to the UK and see an AME there and get a LAPL easa
medical which is less stringent than a class 2.
A DAME here in Australia cannot issue this. With the LAPL medical you can then
fly a glider
] On Behalf Of Simon
Hackett
Sent: Monday, 1 September 2014 3:09 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Just want to call out one other thing from the thread that I have just had
confirmed separately
I think there are two issues here.
There are people who may wish to travel OS and fly gliders solo for
their own pleasure. They will need some temporary or permanent
validation or recognition of their home country qualifications.
Then there are competitors in recognised, sanctioned,
-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Simon
Hackett
Sent: Monday, 1 September 2014 3:09 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Just
-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Just want to call out one other thing from the thread that I have just had
confirmed separately.
The Australian CASA Glider Pilot License doesn't allow a pilot to fly a
Glider in Australia.
SRSLY?
Its 2014. Why can't we live
...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Simon
Hackett
Sent: Monday, 1 September 2014 3:09 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Just want to call out one other thing from the thread that I have just
to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Very nice, now why don't you answer Simon's question?
Mike
At 06:40 PM 1/09/2014, you wrote:
There is no conspiracy here but I admit it is a bit Pythonish!
To fly gliders in Australia one
Of Christopher
McDonnelll
Sent: Monday, 1 September 2014 7:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Yes, Christopher.
What is the agenda/reasoning? GFA's or CASA's.
Chris
Sent from my iPad
On 1
September 2014 7:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Yes, Christopher.
What is the agenda/reasoning? GFA's or CASA's.
Chris
Sent from my iPad
On 1 Sep 2014, at 7:02 pm, Mike
[ mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Simon
Hackett
Sent: Monday, 1 September 2014 3:09 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Just want to call out one other thing from
] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Just want to call out one other thing from the thread that I have just had
confirmed separately.
The Australian CASA Glider Pilot License doesn't allow a pilot to fly a
Glider in Australia.
SRSLY?
Its 2014. Why can't we live in a place where
: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Simon
Hackett
Sent: Monday, 1 September 2014 2:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Just
-Original Message-
From: Future Aviation
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 7:38 AM
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Hi Simon
You have raised a very valid point here!
I have
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Just want to call out one other thing from the thread that I have just had
confirmed separately.
The Australian CASA Glider Pilot License doesn't allow a pilot
Hackett
Sent: Monday, 1 September 2014 2:39 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Just want to call out one other thing from the thread that I have just had
confirmed separately.
The Australian CASA
On 2 September 2014 07:38, Future Aviation ec...@internode.on.net wrote:
Simon, can you (and other members of this newsgroup) let me in on your
thinking, please?
Bernard
There were about 80 emails written on this topic over the last few days all
saying about the same thing, all written by
-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Future
Aviation
Sent: Tuesday, 2 September 2014 07:08
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Hi Simon
You have raised a very valid point here!
I
I haven't seen a reason given yet. I've seen
evasion, obfuscation, less than the whole truth and stonewalling.
I've met and done business with quite a few
people who are PPLs or higher who have
contemplated going gliding. Some own several
powered aircraft and their own airfields even but
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Future
Aviation
Sent: Tuesday, 2 September 2014 07:08
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Hi Simon
You have raised a very valid
On Sep 2, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Paul Bart pb2...@gmail.com wrote:
You say When our newcomers realise that they will always be treated as
second class aviators we can't blame them when they vote with their feet.
Well I have been involved in gliding for some fourteen years now, with a
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
On Sep 2, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Paul Bart pb2...@gmail.com wrote:
You say When our newcomers realise that they will always be treated as
second class aviators
.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Hi Simon
You have raised a very valid point here!
I have often wondered why one can have all the qualifications in the world
but cannot operate a glider in Australia independently and without
instructor oversight. As far
-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Just want to call out one other thing from the thread that I have just had
confirmed separately.
The Australian CASA Glider Pilot License doesn't allow a pilot to fly a
Glider in Australia.
SRSLY?
Its 2014. Why can't we live
relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
On 2 September 2014 07:38, Future Aviation ec...@internode.on.net wrote:
Simon, can you (and other members of this newsgroup) let me in on your
thinking, please?
Bernard
Hi Paul,
On 02/09/2014, Paul Bart pb2...@gmail.com wrote:
Frankly, I am more interested in maintaining a simple and inexpensive
system to fly gliders in Australia. Given the fragile state of of
participation in gliding I fear that any rise in complexity and / or cost
will simply drive more
On Sep 2, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Robert Izatt thebunyipboo...@gmail.com wrote:
An L2 independent operator is required to be supervised when club
operations are in play and they are a member of that club. Particularly when
a tow is required it is impossible to be independent by definition. In a
You don't need to be supervised to get a tow but you can't be independent if
the tow pilot is part of a club operation and the L2 Instructor says so. I am
presuming the why was rhetorical. I haven't flown for two years as the club
which I joined 12 years ago when it was insolvent and in debt
-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] *On Behalf Of *Paul Bart
*Sent:* Tuesday, 2 September 2014 10:20 AM
*To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
*Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no
clothes
On 2
At 01:44 PM 2/09/2014, you wrote:
I don't understand why a few friends can't get gliding licenses, buy a
low-performance 2nd hand glider, and winch launch from a paddock
somewhere. You don't need to have an instructor present to have fun in
a boat or an ultralight. You don't even need to be in
] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
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On 2 September 2014 07:38, Future Aviation
mailto:ec...@internode.on.netec...@internode.on.net wrote:
Â
Â
Simon, can you (and other members of this newsgroup) let me in on your
thinking, please?
Â
âBernard
Â
There were about 80 emails
On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Paul Bart pb2...@gmail.com wrote:
Finally a number of posters indicated that we may be losing potential glider
pilots, because the GFA rules, yet I see people turning their backs on power
flying, often citing cost (medicals etc.) and complexity as a reason. I do
Hi Mark
I was not referring to the actual cost of a medical. That can easily be
sourced, and you have provided it here. My point referred to what people
leave and why.
Cheers
Paul
On 2 September 2014 15:00, Mark Newton new...@atdot.dotat.org wrote:
On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Paul Bart
The question remains, why can’t properly licensed glider pilots be treated
exactly like fully licensed power pilots?
Please… fully licensed SAILPLANE pilots!
Hang glider and paraglider pilots having passed the novice stage can
turn up at a take off, assess the weather and if they consider
Hi Mark
Thank you for a detailed and logical post. Frankly I do not think I would
take issue with most points you make. I simply think my personal experience
is different. I am not a member of any other flying organisation so I
cannot compare.
The fact is that I do not see that GFA impedes what
On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Paul Bart pb2...@gmail.com wrote:
I was not referring to the actual cost of a medical. That can easily be
sourced, and you have provided it here. My point referred to what people
leave and why.
I’ve already told you why I consider leaving, and it’s to do with
relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
I tried to make sense of this thread and it just hurt my head. Not the fault
of this thread, more the fault of the underlying confusion it is trying to
unscramble...
I thought- well
know either.
-Original Message- From: Simon Hackett
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 4:50 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
I tried to make sense of this thread and it just hurt my
they don't know either.
-Original Message- From: Simon Hackett
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 4:50 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
I tried to make sense of this thread and it just
to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Maybe you should read what Simon wrote. He wanted to apply for a Glider Pilot
Licence not a GPC.
Mike
At 08:51 AM 1/09/2014, you wrote:
If you are a member of a gliding club GFA member to get
Just want to call out one other thing from the thread that I have just had
confirmed separately.
The Australian CASA Glider Pilot License doesn't allow a pilot to fly a Glider
in Australia.
SRSLY?
Its 2014. Why can't we live in a place where the GFA issues (or authorises)
Glider Pilot
Yes it is a croc of .
I would have thought a GPC could have been sufficient, conditional on you class
2 or higher medical being passed without condition
So, just what in the GPC is not covered to require this additional expense,
effort and administration?
That's what I'd really like to
Simon,
Excellent question.
I suspect you shouldn't hold your breath waiting for a sensible
answer from the likes of Peter Thorpe, Drew McKinnie or Anita Taylor.
Lets see if TPTB can be bothered giving you an answer in public.
Is your US pilot certificate a real one or issued on the basis
At 11:51 PM 28/08/2014, you wrote:
I sincerely mean no disrespect to anyone and don't intend to enter
into unproductive arguments but since when does what someone says
override what's written in a legal document? Chris has already
posted here that changes are envisaged. As it stands I
From: Mike Borgelt
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 9:44 AM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
At 11:51 PM 28/08/2014, you wrote:
I sincerely mean no disrespect to anyone and dont intend
to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Ron
Refer to CASR 61 http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2014C00046:
61.1510 Privileges of glider pilot licences
61.1520 Limitations on exercise of privileges of glider pilot
licences—recennt
: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
As I understand it that process might have been based on goodwill or some
other cooperation regime because when the BGA license was first introduced it
was not ICAO compliant as i understand it. And probably it was only to fly
relating to Soaring in Australia.
Betreff: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Bak in the good days (2011), Matthew got a British licence based on his c
certificate and a recent scan of his log book showing he had done more than 5
hours flying in a year.
The CEO
...@lists.internode.on.net
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] Im Auftrag von Michael
Scutter
Gesendet: Montag, 25. August 2014 07:20
An: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Betreff: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Bak in the good days (2011
to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Picking up from Michael Scutter:
Will overseas pilots holding an ICAO compliant (glider) pilots license and an
FAI Sporting license still require a GPC to fly in Australian competitions
-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no
clothes
Picking up from Michael Scutter:
Will overseas pilots holding an ICAO compliant (glider) pilots license and
an FAI Sporting license still require a GPC to fly in Australian
competitions?
Perhaps more importantly, do the insurances
Of Ron Sanders
Sent: Sunday, 24 August 2014 8:00 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Dear Chris,
Could you please explain the legislative background which makes the GPC right
now as is, ICAO
*Sent:* Sunday, 24 August 2014 8:00 PM
*To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
*Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no
clothes
Dear Chris,
Could you please explain the legislative background which makes the GPC
right now as is, ICAO
-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ron Sanders
Sent: Sunday, 24 August 2014 8:59 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Thank you
-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Christopher
Thorpe
Sent: Sunday, 24 August 2014 18:52
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
To dispel some of the misinformation written about
in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Thank you.
In the references listed I can not find the privileges and responsibilities of
the CASA GPL??
ron
On 24 August 2014 18:51, Christopher Thorpe ctho...@bigpond.com wrote:
Ron
a glider out from under the
umbrella in the rain? wlEmoticon-smile[1].png
From: Christopher Thorpe
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:13 PM
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Ron
to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Hi Chris,
Many thanks for the quick reply. However, I am not sure where in my post I was
spreading misinformation but please correct me where I am wrong.
With regard to your statement
1
The answer you will get is safety but it is about control!
On 25 Aug 2014, at 12:23, Al Borowski al.borow...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24/08/2014, Ulrich Stauss usta...@internode.on.net wrote:
So whilst the GPC tells me that the pilot has been trained to L1 IO
standard, the privileges and
Australian Weathercam Network
Ben Quinn from Brisbane Storm Chasers is trying to get funding to extend a set
up a network of weather cameras around Australia.
Have a look at this crowd funding page.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1650021102/australian-weathercam-network
Regards
in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Ron
Refer to CASR 61 http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2014C00046:
61.1510 Privileges of glider pilot licences
61.1520 Limitations on exercise of privileges of glider pilot licences—recent
experience
Al,
You need to realise the history.
In the depths of antiquity, God revealed his Plan for Australian
Gliding to the Iggulden brothers and His First Commandment was
Australian Glider pilots shall have no licences.
Thus it was and has been and shall be for ever and ever. Amen.
Mike
At
Message-
From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Al Borowski
Sent: Monday, 25 August 2014 12:23 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has
Hallelujah Hallelujah Halleluujah!
Sorry Jack. I’ll still look after GQG but!
From: Mike Borgelt
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 1:09 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Al
...@bigpond.comChristopher Thorpe
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:13 PM
To:
mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net'Discussion
of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Ron
Refer to CASR 61
http://www.comlaw.gov.au
: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes
Ron
Refer to CASR 61 http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2014C00046:
61.1510 Privileges of glider pilot licences
61.1520 Limitations on exercise of privileges of glider pilot
licences—recennt experience
61.1525 Limitations
Picking up from Michael Scutter:
Will overseas pilots holding an ICAO compliant (glider) pilots license and an
FAI Sporting license still require a GPC to fly in Australian competitions?
Perhaps more importantly, do the insurances recognise both the FAI Sporting
license and the GPC for
93 matches
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