Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-06-13 Thread John Parncutt
...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of John Parncutt Sent: Tuesday, 26 February 2013 5:58 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 Hi David, The link you provide is to exactly the same model

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-06-13 Thread Peter Champness
2013 5:58 PM *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 ** ** Hi David, ** ** The link you provide is to exactly the same model of Shorai battery I have been evaluating. The load tests I have done give it an actual capacity

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-04-04 Thread David Conway
These look promising. drop in replacement http://store.starkpower.com/12V-9Ah-StarkPower-UltraEnergy-LiFePO-Energy-Sto rage-Battery_p_27.html their smart chargers aren't expensive either http://store.starkpower.com/Chargers_c_25.html David

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-03-08 Thread Michael Eales
.* -- *From:* John Parncutt jparn...@bigpond.net.au *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net *Sent:* Tuesday, 26 February 2013 5:57 PM *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 Hi David, The link you provide is to exactly the same

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 ~ Why not move to 24 volt systems?

2013-02-28 Thread Mike Borgelt
one! :) From: Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com; To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net; Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 ~ Why not move to 24 volt systems? Sent: Thu, Feb 28, 2013 12:44:04 AM You usually move to higher

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-27 Thread gstevo10
: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 Hi, When people start talking of glider batteries I laugh at their logic. We have a toy that cost anywhere between 2 - 10k and upwards to keep in the air each year (not including getting to and from the airfield

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 ~ Why not move to 24 volt systems?

2013-02-27 Thread Alan Wilson
relating to Soaring in Australia. mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 Hi, When people start talking of glider batteries I laugh at their logic. We have a toy that cost anywhere between 2 - 10k and upwards to keep

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 ~ Why not move to 24 volt systems?

2013-02-27 Thread Mike Borgelt
Of gstev...@bigpond.com Sent: Wednesday, 27 February, 2013 8:58 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 Nice one Arie. You do bring a bit of costing perspective into the argument here. The YouTube footage is interesting (horrific?), but I suspect

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 ~ Why not move to 24 volt systems?

2013-02-27 Thread Mike Borgelt
@lists.internode.on.netDiscussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 Hi, When people start talking of glider batteries I laugh at their logic. We have a toy that cost anywhere between 2 - 10k and upwards to keep in the air each

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-27 Thread Scott Penrose
On 27/02/2013, at 6:56 PM, Arie van Spronssen a...@internode.on.net wrote: Hi, When people start talking of glider batteries I laugh at their logic. We have a toy that cost anywhere between 2 - 10k and upwards to keep in the air each year (not including getting to and from the airfield

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 ~ Why not move to 24 volt systems?

2013-02-27 Thread tom claffey
Aircon? - I want one! :)___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-26 Thread Michael Scutter
that I would not say to your face. From: John Parncutt jparn...@bigpond.net.au To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, 26 February 2013 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 Hi David

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-26 Thread Jim Staniforth
Boeing. Jim From: Future Aviation ec...@internode.on.net To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 Hi Ian   From a safety point

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-26 Thread Luke Dodd
to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 John, that is really interesting. Have you sampled more than one battery or repeated the test on the same battery? Michael Scutter, Education Training Consultant, Email: michael_scut...@yahoo.com.au Mobile: 0417822330 (Int +614178223300

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-26 Thread Scott Penrose
I don't have any graphs or deep knowledge to back my decisions up, but personally I have moved back to SLA. In my glider I have used NiMH with some success, but the lifetime of the batteries (9Ah D cells with solder tabs) was only 2 years, and very expensive.. I think you have to be a lot more

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-26 Thread Future Aviation
...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Luke Dodd Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2013 4:14 AM To: Michael Scutter; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 I have been trialling the shorai and can support Johns

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-26 Thread Mike Borgelt
As I said yesterday, do proper engineering on your battery installation. If you don't have real numbers for temperature limits, discharge curves at various rates, charging characteristics etc etc you aren't doing engineering, you're just guessing. A battery designed to start a racing motorbike

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-26 Thread Scott Penrose
Hi Mike. Really glad you mentioned the quoted rate, I forgot to mention that, as it is how I got better batteries in my glider - point being of course that it doesn't matter if SLA, NiMH or Li* - you have to check those discharge rates, and temperature curves. We recently sent equipment to

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-26 Thread Future Aviation
relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 As I said yesterday, do proper engineering on your battery installation. If you don't have real numbers for temperature limits, discharge curves at various rates, charging characteristics etc etc you aren't doing engineering

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-26 Thread Arie van Spronssen
to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 As I said yesterday, do proper engineering on your battery installation. If you don't have real numbers for temperature limits, discharge curves at various rates, charging characteristics etc etc you aren't doing engineering, you're just

[Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-25 Thread Ian Mc Phee
About $87 and notice a new Arcus M was fitted at factory with something similar. This is NOT what B787 is using. Ian M http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__22656__ZIPPY_Flightmax_8400mAh_4S2P_30C_LiFePo4_Pack_AUS_Warehouse_.html ___ Aus-soaring

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-25 Thread Future Aviation
...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ian Mc Phee Sent: Tuesday, 26 February 2013 2:15 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 About $87 and notice a new Arcus M was fitted at factory

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-25 Thread David Conway
] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Sent: 26 February 2013 15:02 To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 Hi Ian From a safety point of view this is much better than what the Boeing dreamliner is using. However, I would never put a battery

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-25 Thread Michael Eales
** ** David ** ** *From:* aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] *On Behalf Of *Future Aviation *Sent:* 26 February 2013 15:02 *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4

2013-02-25 Thread John Parncutt
-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Michael Eales Sent: Tuesday, 26 February 2013 5:06 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 New to the group so please excuse any ignorance demonstrated but I have been looking at the EVO2

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 batteries

2012-09-11 Thread Jim Staniforth
Yesterday's test of two Tenergy #31383 12V 10AH LiFePO4 batteries run in parallel. These batteries fit in a standard Schleicher, Schempp-Hirth, etc. battery mount. Perhaps 15 minutes of pre-flight use. 6:30 of flight A few minutes of post-flight use. Equipment:   ClearNav VGA   CAI302   Becker

[Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 batteries by K2 energy

2012-08-14 Thread Roger Druce
Hello, Has anyone located a source of K2 Energy Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries in Australia? I have tried Googling but without any convincing result and despite changing the search string. The K2 Energy K2B12V10EB looks interesting as direct drop in replacement for a standard 7 Ah 12V

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 batteries by K2 energy

2012-08-14 Thread Jim Staniforth
in a glider trailer... Jim From: Roger Druce rogdr...@optusnet.com.au To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 6:42 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 batteries by K2 energy Hello

Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePO4 cells

2011-11-11 Thread Mike Borgelt
I've found the following: http://www.all-battery.com/Tenergy3.2V15Ah40152SLiFePO4EnergyCellRechargeableBattery-30078.aspx These are 15 Amp-hour 3.2 volts per cell. 4 cells make a nominal 12 volt battery.(14.4 fully charged, better than 11 volts discharged) and are UL listed and the test