Re: [Aus-soaring] Shell 98 and fibreglass

2015-02-05 Thread jonoh
:29 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Shell 98 and fibreglass I must admit I used epoxy resin Ciba/G 3600 and not vinyl ester. I am going to try again using vinyl ester. I am doing another trial with shell/liberty 98 and BP 98 with smell

Re: [Aus-soaring] Shell 98 and fibreglass

2015-02-04 Thread dennis hipperson
I believe the smell could be Toluene, used as an octane booster. (Maybe) Dennis On 5/02/2015 2:29 pm, Ian Mc Phee wrote: I must admit I used epoxy resin Ciba/G 3600 and not vinyl ester. I am going to try again using vinyl ester. I am doing another trial with shell/liberty 98 and BP 98

Re: [Aus-soaring] Shell 98 and fibreglass

2015-02-04 Thread Mike Borgelt
Ian, Consult the resin chemist as to which vinylester to use. There are many types with optimum properties for different uses. Vinylester is used for making below ground fuel storage tanks so there will be one for various types of mogas. - I used to run Super in the TOP when

Re: [Aus-soaring] Shell 98 and fibreglass

2015-02-04 Thread Mike Borgelt
Nasty stuff. I guess they have to do something to boost the octane of the refinery tailings we seem to get here for mogas. Mike On 5 Feb 2015, at 4:40 pm, dennis hipperson dennishipper...@gmail.com wrote: I believe the smell could be Toluene, used as an octane booster. (Maybe)

Re: [Aus-soaring] Shell 98 and fibreglass

2015-02-04 Thread Ian Mc Phee
I must admit I used epoxy resin Ciba/G 3600 and not vinyl ester. I am going to try again using vinyl ester. I am doing another trial with shell/liberty 98 and BP 98 with smell. In every case the shell smells like turps is added where as BP smells normal like you expect fuel to smell like.

Re: [Aus-soaring] Shell 98 and fibreglass

2015-02-03 Thread DMcD
I'll stick to Avgas in the BD-4 even though the 7:1 compression ratio engine (same as Super Cub) can handle unleaded from an octane rating basis. Unless things have changed, with some two strokes used in SLGs like the Solo engines, the manufacturer recommends using 95, not Avgas. The claim is

Re: [Aus-soaring] Shell 98 and fibreglass

2015-02-02 Thread jonoh
tell you is the effect on resin of the fuel which happened to be in the service station tanks 3 months ago. ...John From: Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 3:16 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Shell 98

Re: [Aus-soaring] Shell 98 and fibreglass

2015-02-02 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 01:44 PM 3/02/2015, you wrote: This is sample of I think 3 layers of 125 glass which was left in shell 98 for about 2 months.  The glass is now soft and can be easily twisted like say clear packaging.  It is a bit sticky on surface. It seems it will never harden up again. Thus

Re: [Aus-soaring] Shell 98 and fibreglass

2015-02-02 Thread Future Aviation Pty. Ltd.
Hi Ian Many thanks for sharing that with us. It confirms what Gerhard Waibel told me about 15 years ago. He said that fuel bladders are preferable to wing tanks because you never know what additives get added to the fuel in future and what they do to the resins used in those wing tanks”.

Re: [Aus-soaring] Shell 98 and fibreglass

2015-02-02 Thread Laurie Hoffman
: Tuesday, 3 February 2015, 17:05 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Shell 98 and fibreglass Most (all?) oil companies will tell you that mogas is not approved for aviation use.  There are a number of reasons for this but one is the much greater compositional variability of mogas compared with avgas

Re: [Aus-soaring] Shell 98 and fibreglass

2015-02-02 Thread Christopher McDonnell
. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Shell 98 and fibreglass The last point by John is something that I have been thinking about lately. With almost all (all?) PULP now being imported I would expect greater time lags between production and supply at the pump. We have posted before about our fascinating