Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

2014-08-30 Thread dennis hipperson
Except in this case no sucking down was evident, nor was any bouncing into the air and plunging nose first as someone mentioned. Dennis On 29/08/14 2:52 PM, Mike Borgelt wrote: At 02:39 PM 29/08/2014, you wrote: Surely there are so many variables (fuselage shape, surface of water, C of G

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

2014-08-30 Thread Catherine Conway
I’m not convinced the wheel was up looking at that video. I think it might actually have had the wheel down. Cath On 30 Aug 2014, at 8:07 pm, dennis hipperson dennishipper...@gmail.com wrote: Except in this case no sucking down was evident, nor was any bouncing into the air and plunging

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

2014-08-30 Thread dennis hipperson
Except in this case no sucking down was evident, nor was any bouncing into the air and plunging nose first as someone mentioned. Dennis On 29/08/14 2:52 PM, Mike Borgelt wrote: At 02:39 PM 29/08/2014, you wrote: Surely there are so many variables (fuselage shape, surface of water, C of G

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

2014-08-30 Thread dennis hipperson
After looking and stopping the clip several times I think what could look like a wheel down is the shadow of the AC on the water, the sun is on the stbd side of the plane. Dennis On 30/08/14 8:49 PM, Catherine Conway wrote: I'm not convinced the wheel was up looking at that video. I think

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

2014-08-30 Thread Gary Stevenson
...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of DMcD Sent: Saturday, 30 August 2014 3:53 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing Sent to me in 2008: Tests were carried out on a lake

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

2014-08-29 Thread Catherine Conway
-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mark Newton Sent: Friday, 29 August 2014 2:21 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing On Aug 29, 2014, at 12:58 PM, dennis

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

2014-08-29 Thread DMcD
Sent to me in 2008: Tests were carried out on a lake in Germany by Walter Schneider and Wolf Lemke of LS fame. They ditched an LS1 prior to the World Championships in Finland because they were worried about the lack of land out options and the proliferation of lakes. They assumed that landing

[Aus-soaring] Water Landing

2014-08-28 Thread Future Aviation
Hello all It appears to me that this glider pilot either left his field selection a little late or he wanted to imitate Captain Sullenberger! In any case, it was well done! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcsrDxOI8cc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcsrDxOI8ccfeature=youtube_gdata_player

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

2014-08-28 Thread Alan Wilson
Thanks Bernard, I hope we don't see a spate of such landings now. But to me it was useful because a fear for all would be the nose digging in leaving the cockpit under water. Options were oft discussed in Finland in 1976. I think it also implies such landings should be done with the

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

2014-08-28 Thread Future Aviation
] On Behalf Of Alan Wilson Sent: Friday, 29 August 2014 7:17 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing Thanks Bernard, I hope we don't see a spate of such landings now. But to me it was useful because a fear for all would be the nose

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

2014-08-28 Thread Paul Bart
2014 7:17 AM *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing Thanks Bernard, I hope we don't see a spate of such landings now. But to me it was useful because a fear for all would be the nose digging in leaving the cockpit under water

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

2014-08-28 Thread Grant Davies
to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing Hello all It appears to me that this glider pilot either left his field selection a little late or he wanted to imitate Captain Sullenberger! In any case, it was well done! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcsrDxOI8cc https

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

2014-08-28 Thread Paul Bart
On 29 August 2014 08:58, Grant Davies gr...@davies.id.au wrote: Oh I see his problem, he forgot to put the wheel down. Your point being? Cheers Paul ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

2014-08-28 Thread Mike Borgelt
Don't expect any of the avionics to work after you do this. I've seen what happens on a couple of occasions. One was Lake Keepit(clearly a fair bit of salt) and one was a Norwegian lake(less salt). Managed to salvage a couple of boards out of the Norwegian one. Mike At 07:36 AM 29/08/2014,

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

2014-08-28 Thread Grant Davies
of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing On 29 August 2014 08:58, Grant Davies gr...@davies.id.au wrote: Oh I see his problem, he forgot to put the wheel down. Your point being? Cheers Paul

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

2014-08-28 Thread dennis hipperson
...@lists.internode.on.net] *On Behalf Of *Alan Wilson *Sent:* Friday, 29 August 2014 7:17 AM *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing Thanks Bernard, I hope we don't see a spate of such landings now. But to me it was useful

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

2014-08-28 Thread Michael Scutter
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Paul Bart Sent: Friday, 29 August 2014 9:06 AM To: gr...@davies.id.au; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing On 29 August 2014 08:58, Grant Davies gr

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

2014-08-28 Thread dennis hipperson
] *On Behalf Of *Alan Wilson *Sent:* Friday, 29 August 2014 7:17 AM *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing Thanks Bernard, I hope we don't see a spate of such landings now. But to me it was useful because a fear

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

2014-08-28 Thread Mark Newton
On Aug 29, 2014, at 12:58 PM, dennis hipperson dennishipper...@gmail.com wrote: Also found this: Landing on water: Over the years, there has been an on-going debate on whether it is better to land gear up or gear down on water. Current thought from Tom Knauff is to always land gear

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

2014-08-28 Thread Grant Davies
From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mark Newton Sent: Friday, 29 August 2014 2:21 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing On Aug 29, 2014, at 12:58

Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing

2014-08-28 Thread Nick Gilbert
Grant Davies *From:* aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] *On Behalf Of *Mark Newton *Sent:* Friday, 29 August 2014 2:21 PM *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Water Landing