bug#8289: distcheck and make dvi

2011-03-20 Thread Jack Kelly
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Ralf Wildenhues ralf.wildenh...@gmx.de wrote: Another possible change, in addition to messing with the documentation, would be to make the dvi a variable that such non-dvi-generating people can override with pdf if they wish.  Then they could get the benefit

bug#8289: distcheck and make dvi

2011-03-20 Thread Karl Berry
However, there are cases where dvi output just isn't feasible in practice. Yep. Therein lies the essence of the problem. not bother checking dvi output and rather test PDF output seems like another good alternative. I can't agree with that. That's trading DVI-generation

bug#8289: distcheck and make dvi

2011-03-20 Thread Karl Berry
Hi Jack, New automake options? Something like: I like my idea of a variable better :). Seems simpler/less intrusive/more general. Best, k

bug#8289: distcheck and make dvi

2011-03-20 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Karl Berry wrote on Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:28:59PM CET: not bother checking dvi output and rather test PDF output seems like another good alternative. I can't agree with that. That's trading DVI-generation problems for PDF-generation problems. Believe me, there will be just as

Re: [GSoC Proposal] automake - Interfacing with a test protocol like TAP or subunit

2011-03-20 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Hi Robert, thanks for the feedback. I have a couple of questions: * Robert Collins wrote on Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 05:10:16AM CET: TAP is an extremely simple protocol, and the extensions to it to support things like not needing to maintain the count of tests, additional debug data and so on

Re: GSoC project idea: non-recursive automake project

2011-03-20 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Hello Pippijn, * Pippijn van Steenhoven wrote on Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 10:47:35AM CET: On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 10:38:39AM +0100, Pippijn van Steenhoven wrote: On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 05:26:58PM -0700, Harlan Stenn wrote: If there was a student interested in showing how easy it was to use

Re: [GSoC Proposal] automake - Interfacing with a test protocol like TAP or subunit

2011-03-20 Thread Stefano Lattarini
Hello Robert, and thanks for the feedback. On Sunday 20 March 2011, Robert Collins wrote: On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Stefano Lattarini stefano.lattar...@gmail.com wrote: ABSTRACT: The Test Anything Protocol (TAP) is a simple text-based protocol that allows communication between

Re: [GSoC Proposal] automake - Interfacing with a test protocol like TAP or subunit

2011-03-20 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Ralf Wildenhues ralf.wildenh...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Robert, thanks for the feedback.  I have a couple of questions: * Robert Collins wrote on Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 05:10:16AM CET: TAP is an extremely simple protocol, and the extensions to it to support things

Re: [GSoC Proposal] automake - Interfacing with a test protocol like TAP or subunit

2011-03-20 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Stefano Lattarini stefano.lattar...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Robert, and thanks for the feedback. On Sunday 20 March 2011, Robert Collins wrote: On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Stefano Lattarini stefano.lattar...@gmail.com wrote: ABSTRACT:  The Test

Re: [GSoC Proposal] automake - Interfacing with a test protocol like TAP or subunit

2011-03-20 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Robert Collins wrote on Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:03:10AM CET: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: * Robert Collins wrote on Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 05:10:16AM CET: TAP is an extremely simple protocol, and the extensions to it to support things like not needing to maintain

Re: [GSoC Proposal] automake - Interfacing with a test protocol like TAP or subunit

2011-03-20 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Stefano Lattarini wrote on Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:40:39AM CET: On Sunday 20 March 2011, Robert Collins wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: Are TAP and subunit compatible on their common subset? If not, why not? You can convert TAP to subunit, and you can

Re: [GSoC Proposal] automake - Interfacing with a test protocol like TAP or subunit

2011-03-20 Thread Stefano Lattarini
On Sunday 20 March 2011, Robert Collins wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Stefano Lattarini stefano.lattar...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Robert, and thanks for the feedback. On Sunday 20 March 2011, Robert Collins wrote: On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Stefano Lattarini

Re: [GSoC Proposal] automake - Interfacing with a test protocol like TAP or subunit

2011-03-20 Thread Stefano Lattarini
On Sunday 20 March 2011, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: * Stefano Lattarini wrote on Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:40:39AM CET: On Sunday 20 March 2011, Robert Collins wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: Are TAP and subunit compatible on their common subset? If not, why

Re: [GSoC Proposal] automake - Interfacing with a test protocol like TAP or subunit

2011-03-20 Thread Daniel Herring
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: Or add a subunit parser and a quick tap2subunit perl module today and have the best of both worlds? (This is meant as an honest question, even if it looks like a rhetoric one.) I think that's a good approach. I don't really use either framework,

Re: [GSoC Proposal] automake - Interfacing with a test protocol like TAP or subunit

2011-03-20 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Stefano Lattarini wrote on Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 01:41:07PM CET: On Sunday 20 March 2011, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: Or add a subunit parser and a quick tap2subunit perl module today [perl module? what about portability?] awk should be sufficient, for text-mode output at least. and have the

Re: GSoC project idea: non-recursive automake project

2011-03-20 Thread John Calcote
On 03/19/2011 01:45 PM, Harlan Stenn wrote: Pippijn wrote: On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 05:26:58PM -0700, Harlan Stenn wrote: If there was a student interested in showing how easy it was to use automake to do non-recursive Makefiles for a project, I'd be willing to co-mentor and work with them to

Re: Do convenience libraries propagate -R linker flags?

2011-03-20 Thread Rhys Ulerich
Hi Ralf, I've got a convenience library where the LDFLAGS includes -R: noinst_LTLIBRARIES = libsomething.la ... libsomething_la_LDFLAGS = -Rsomewhere and I indeed see -Rsomewhere appear within libsomething.la's dependency_libs line the way I expect. In another directory, I