Re: bug#10111: typo fix

2011-11-24 Thread Stefano Lattarini
On Wednesday 23 November 2011, Krzysztof Żelechowski wrote: +## Creative quoring to avoid spurious matches in the grepping quoting Thanks for spotting it. Fixed by the attached patch. Regards, Stefano From 39a0fd0267ca5aab3d7c4677586181c355233eef Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 Message-Id:

Re: Could automake-generated Makefiles required GNU make?

2011-11-24 Thread Stefano Lattarini
On Wednesday 23 November 2011, Ludovic Courtès wrote: Hi Stefano, Stefano Lattarini stefano.lattar...@gmail.com skribis: On Tuesday 22 November 2011, Ludovic Courtès wrote: [...] It seems to me that this proposal would fill a niche between current Automake and Quagmire. IMO

Re: Could automake-generated Makefiles required GNU make?

2011-11-24 Thread Stefano Lattarini
So, to summarize the main points so far: * From RMS: it would be a good idea to start requiring GNU make in just one or two GNU packages, and see how many users complain, and how loudly. My follow-up on this: we could do this experiment by being even more conservative, and have one or

Re: [gnu-prog-discuss] Could automake-generated Makefiles required GNU make?

2011-11-24 Thread Richard Stallman
I agree the reason becomes less compelling as more capable systems become more commonplace, but I do not agree ancient RISC boxes are no longer an interesting target for current NTP builds. The machine I use (and many of us, too) has a MIPS-like chip, the Loongson. -- Dr Richard

Re: Could automake-generated Makefiles required GNU make?

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Rosin
Stefano Lattarini skrev 2011-11-21 21:56: Stefano Lattarini wrote: because GNU make is very portable and easy to build and install (and free from bootstrapping problems AFAIK), and because the incompatibilities between different make versions are so

Re: [gnu-prog-discuss] Could automake-generated Makefiles required GNU make?

2011-11-24 Thread Paolo Bonzini
On 11/24/2011 04:51 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: I agree the reason becomes less compelling as more capable systems become more commonplace, but I do not agree ancient RISC boxes are no longer an interesting target for current NTP builds. The machine I use (and many of us, too)

Re: Could automake-generated Makefiles required GNU make?

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Johansson
On 11/24/11 11:40 AM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011, Peter Rosin wrote: There is one possibly hard bootstrapping problem. What if you want to deploy some package that does not need a C compiler on some system that lacks both a C compiler and GNU Make? You would have problems there

Re: Could automake-generated Makefiles required GNU make?

2011-11-24 Thread Nick Bowler
On 2011-11-24 10:40 -0600, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011, Peter Rosin wrote: There is one possibly hard bootstrapping problem. What if you want to deploy some package that does not need a C compiler on some system that lacks both a C compiler and GNU Make? You would have

Re: Could automake-generated Makefiles required GNU make? (was: Re: [gnu-prog-discuss] portability)

2011-11-24 Thread Richard Stallman
Rather, one GNU package could drop support for ordinary Make, and see how users react. If the level of complaint is not too high, then GCC dropped support for non-GNU make in version 3.4 (April 2004). We could see how users reacted to that. -- Dr Richard Stallman President,