A late hello,
* Robert J. Hansen wrote on Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:12:46AM CET:
On 3/22/10 6:50 PM, John Calcote wrote:
Reuben, you've just hit upon one of the two most significant problems
with Javadoc and the like (including doxygen, man pages, and info pages):
Agreed -- which is why I
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010, Reuben Thomas r...@sc3d.org wrote:
On 23 March 2010 10:15, Steffen Dettmer wrote:
* On Mon, Mar 22, 2010, Reuben Thomas r...@sc3d.org wrote:
* 2010/3/22 Russell Shaw rjs...@netspace.net.au:
[on this ident level, see at the end]
poor support for installing
Hello Reuben,
* Reuben Thomas wrote on Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 04:44:17PM CET:
2010/3/22 Russell Shaw:
Steffen Dettmer wrote:
* On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Ralf Wildenhues wrote:
BTW, execution of built programs like this makes your package unsuitable
for cross-compilation. Just so
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Reuben Thomas r...@sc3d.org wrote:
Not true. automake does not have explicit support for building
programs with the host compiler when cross-compiling, but I
have done this successfully in the past when I needed precisely
to build a program on the host when
Steffen Dettmer wrote:
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Reuben Thomas r...@sc3d.org wrote:
Not true. automake does not have explicit support for building
programs with the host compiler when cross-compiling, but I
have done this successfully in the past when I needed precisely
to build a
(OT)
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:50 PM, John Calcote john.calc...@gmail.com wrote:
Reuben, you've just hit upon one of the two most significant
problems with Javadoc and the like (including doxygen, man
pages, and info pages):
sorry, I cannot leave this, because this would be an excuse for
On 23 March 2010 06:03, Ralf Wildenhues ralf.wildenh...@gmx.de wrote:
Hello Reuben,
* Reuben Thomas wrote on Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 04:44:17PM CET:
2010/3/22 Russell Shaw:
Steffen Dettmer wrote:
* On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Ralf Wildenhues wrote:
BTW, execution of built programs
On 23 March 2010 10:15, Steffen Dettmer steffen.dett...@googlemail.com wrote:
This illustrates a weirdness of autotools: poor support for
installing interpreted languages, and also conversely for
build-time compiled programs.
Yes, also for coffee-cooking there is poor support only. :-)
Sure,
2010/3/22 Alfred M. Szmidt a...@gnu.org:
If searching is the problem
*Web* searching is the answer, not the problem.
It isn't when you are not connected to a network.
how does the indices not fix the problem?
I rarely find anything useful in the indices other than particular
On 23 March 2010 17:15, Alfred M. Szmidt a...@gnu.org wrote:
2010/3/22 Alfred M. Szmidt a...@gnu.org:
If searching is the problem
*Web* searching is the answer, not the problem.
It isn't when you are not connected to a network.
I usually wait until I am; it often takes me rather
You say that the manuals are poor and that it is obvious, but I cannot
figure out from your explanation how they are poor. I've looked at a
few manuals, glibc, emacs, coreutils, autoconf, and m4, and all of
them have good indices, are organised cleanly, etc.
Can you mention one or two manuals,
On 23 March 2010 18:12, Alfred M. Szmidt a...@gnu.org wrote:
You say that the manuals are poor
I said that the indices are poor, specifically at indexing concepts
rather than just keywords, function names c., in general. I also said
that the manuals in general are excellent.
and that it is
* On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Ralf Wildenhues wrote:
noinst_PROGRAMS = unimain
unimain_SOURCES = unimain.c
unidata.tab.c: unimain$(EXEEXT) /usr/share/unicode/UnicodeData.txt
./unimain$(EXEEXT) $ $@
BTW, execution of built programs like this makes your package unsuitable
Steffen Dettmer wrote:
* On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Ralf Wildenhues wrote:
noinst_PROGRAMS = unimain
unimain_SOURCES = unimain.c
unidata.tab.c: unimain$(EXEEXT) /usr/share/unicode/UnicodeData.txt
./unimain$(EXEEXT) $ $@
BTW, execution of built programs like this makes your
2010/3/22 Russell Shaw rjs...@netspace.net.au:
Steffen Dettmer wrote:
* On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Ralf Wildenhues wrote:
BTW, execution of built programs like this makes your package unsuitable
for cross-compilation. Just so you're aware of that.
Not true. automake does not have
If searching is the problem how does the indices not fix the problem?
What about using a info browser to search through the manual?
On 3/22/2010 4:34 PM, Reuben Thomas wrote:
What about using a info browser to search through the manual?
I often do that. The trouble is that often what I want to know has to
be deduced from the manual, which is natural enough, because the
manual tends to be structured according to the
On 3/22/10 6:50 PM, John Calcote wrote:
Reuben, you've just hit upon one of the two most significant problems
with Javadoc and the like (including doxygen, man pages, and info pages):
Agreed -- which is why I think it would be wonderful if there was strong
Autotools support for literate
Hi,
I want the unimain program built first, then use it to generate
unidata.tab.c, which is then compiled and linked into librunicode.la
bin_PROGRAMS = unimain
unimain_SOURCES = unimain.c
lib_LTLIBRARIES = librunicode.la
librunicode_la_SOURCES = runicode.c runicode.h
Hello Russell,
* Russell Shaw wrote on Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 07:06:00AM CET:
I want the unimain program built first, then use it to generate
unidata.tab.c, which is then compiled and linked into librunicode.la
bin_PROGRAMS = unimain
unimain_SOURCES = unimain.c
unidata.tab.c:
Ralf Wildenhues wrote:
Hello Russell,
* Russell Shaw wrote on Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 07:06:00AM CET:
I want the unimain program built first, then use it to generate
unidata.tab.c, which is then compiled and linked into librunicode.la
bin_PROGRAMS = unimain
unimain_SOURCES = unimain.c
However, make install installs unimain into /usr/local/bin
Please refer to the manual, it documents how to do that, and more.
You can try the chapter `(automake) Fine-grained Distribution
Control'.
* Russell Shaw wrote on Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 09:26:44AM CET:
Ralf Wildenhues wrote:
* Russell Shaw wrote on Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 07:06:00AM CET:
bin_PROGRAMS = unimain
unimain_SOURCES = unimain.c
unidata.tab.c: unimain$(EXEEXT) /usr/share/unicode/UnicodeData.txt
* Russell Shaw wrote on Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 08:16:03AM CET:
Ralf Wildenhues wrote:
Furthermore, please don't hard-code absolute paths like
/usr/share/unicode/UnicodeData.txt
in your makefiles. Make them configurable by configure. Maybe your
users don't have root rights on their system
Ralf Wildenhues wrote:
* Russell Shaw wrote on Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 09:26:44AM CET:
Ralf Wildenhues wrote:
* Russell Shaw wrote on Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 07:06:00AM CET:
bin_PROGRAMS = unimain
unimain_SOURCES = unimain.c
unidata.tab.c: unimain$(EXEEXT) /usr/share/unicode/UnicodeData.txt
* Russell Shaw wrote on Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:18:03AM CET:
Ralf Wildenhues wrote:
Use noinst_PROGRAMS instead of bin_PROGRAMS. Be encouraged to read the
fine manual.
But it is somewhat big, and i had already searched through the online
one a lot first. It is no wonder it takes noobs so
Ralf Wildenhues wrote:
* Russell Shaw wrote on Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:18:03AM CET:
Ralf Wildenhues wrote:
Use noinst_PROGRAMS instead of bin_PROGRAMS. Be encouraged to read the
fine manual.
But it is somewhat big, and i had already searched through the online
one a lot first. It is no
Have you tried reading `(automake) Autotools Introduction'? It is part
of the automake manual.
Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
Have you tried reading `(automake) Autotools Introduction'? It is part
of the automake manual.
Hi,
I printed out all the autotools manuals and have read every page of
them more than once. It was a while ago, so it's easy to forget things.
Searching the online manual
Hello Reuben,
* Reuben Thomas wrote on Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 07:32:32PM CET:
1. This is not a fault especially of GNU documentation; rather, GNU
documentation is one of the few places in free and open source
software where one finds properly written manuals.
Nice to hear!
2. I suspect the
Hi Russell,
On 3/21/2010 6:14 AM, Russell Shaw wrote:
I was limping along for years learning autoconf/make in bits until this
tutorial came out
Autotools: a practitioner's guide to Autoconf, Automake and Libtool
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