[Ayatana-dev] More JHBuild Goodness for Unity

2011-09-06 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Hi all, With a bit of help from Sam I got the Unity JHBuild module to cleanly build the entire Compiz stack as well - keeping *everything* installed and running cleanly under ~/unity/install. This comes in very handy when fx. debugging branches requiring ABI breaks etc (i am looking at you

Re: [Ayatana-dev] Introducing Stack Inspector

2011-09-06 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 16:44 +0800, Sam Spilsbury wrote: Q: What do you plan to do with this in the future A: We can probably use this as a test harness for the new stacking code to compare what's on the server with what the stacking code thinks the stack is to nip any problems in the bud.

Re: [Ayatana] make adding ppas easier

2011-09-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
S. Christian Collins s.chriscoll...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/05/2011 07:47 AM, Christian Rupp wrote: This is a good thing, but will this programs and others be updated to the newest version or have we still to wait half a year for the next version of ubuntu? I usually want to have only

Re: [Ayatana] New proposal for Unity: Launcher and left of top panel (w/ mockups)

2011-09-06 Thread Eylem Koca
Thank you for your comments! I too hope the design team will consider this for 12.04, even if it's not accepted as it is... @Stefanos I know what you're saying about the maximized-window control buttons, and the problem is partly because they're hidden when cursor is not on top panel. I cannot

Re: [Ayatana] New proposal for Unity: Launcher and left of top panel (w/ mockups)

2011-09-06 Thread Eylem Koca
Oops, I have to correct myself with the last part there: PS: Note that it seems like the mockup for autohide Launcher and un-maximized window seems to be missing but the proposed behavior is exactly like the proposed behavior here: http://i54.tinypic.com/qzm2l0.png So, essentially, the

Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu Applications

2011-09-06 Thread Roland Taylor
I'm with James on this one. It would be nice to have a definition of what an Ubuntu application is, but let's face it - that would drive a wedge in the wider community even wider than what currently exists. People would label Canonical as Apple and us users as fanboys, and essentially seek

[Ayatana] An idea for the Unity dash

2011-09-06 Thread a.gra...@gmail.com
Hi all, this morning I had an idea about the Unity dash. I didn't prepare any mockups, because it's not an idea about how it is designed but how it could appear. Actually the user press the Super button and the dash window appears, covering/shadowing what is below it. My idea is to make it

Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu Applications

2011-09-06 Thread cmaglothin
I don't think it would drive the community apart at all. In fact, this would most likely promote key apps that fit best within Ubuntu, and by doing so, would increase the competition for better apps across the whole of the ecosystem. As someone who is more visual than code oriented, I can easily

Re: [Ayatana] Software center icon needs designers minds, and new humanity desktop methafor.

2011-09-06 Thread Carl Ansell
I think this icon is meant to replace the desktop icon, in which case a down arrow wouldn't be needed. On 06/09/11 06:41, Ian Santopietro wrote: Those do look nice. The only thing I would change would be to show a down-arrow pointing to a line, to indicate a download. On Sep 5, 2011 11:36

Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu Applications

2011-09-06 Thread Carl Ansell
Its interesting that there are 2 different opinions on this. I think that how it is managed will be the definitive factor on whether it drive the community apart or not. If there is an Ubuntu 'team' that would apply themes, Unity and panel integration etc, then it should be ok as long as bugs

Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu Applications

2011-09-06 Thread topdownjimmy
I agree that there's a small problem with users installing gobs of KDE dependencies that they might not want (without even knowing that they don't want them). But good looks is so subjective as to make any attempt to define it in any formal way very problematic. 1) Maybe it would be wise to give

Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu Applications

2011-09-06 Thread Jonathan Meek
You misunderstand: I do not propose a good looks badge. I am proposing a standards compliance badge. As for your (1), I would not argue against a soft warning. As for (2) Then let us not speak of it here ;) On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:46 PM, topdownjimmy topdownji...@gmail.com wrote: I agree

Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu Applications

2011-09-06 Thread topdownjimmy
What in addition to being GTK-based would you propose as a requirement for being standards-compliant? On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Jonathan Meek shrouded.cl...@gmail.com wrote: You misunderstand: I do not propose a good looks badge. I am proposing a standards compliance badge. As for your

Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu Applications

2011-09-06 Thread Jonathan Meek
That is what the former half of the original post is about. Those guidelines for what this hypothetical standards-compliance do not quite exist yet. Before we worry about singling out ANY applications, we have to figure out what exactly that application would entail, no? With that in mind, we

Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu Applications

2011-09-06 Thread Jonathan Meek
True and an excellent point. I'm not saying this is for all developers. But for those who what to create that... *experience* for others, this will be the thing for them to go by. As for fragmentation. There's no real-- I don't see it as an issue (personally). Because, the guidelines will

Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu Applications

2011-09-06 Thread Jeremy Nickurak
Maybe this should strictly be the set of applications that gets installed-by-default, or included-on-the-cd/dvd? These would typically constitute the Ubuntu experience, right? Maybe it's everything in main, and not in restricted/universe/multiverse? Further, maybe anything that's not part of the

Re: [Ayatana] Software center icon needs designers minds, and new humanity desktop methafor.

2011-09-06 Thread Eylem Koca
How about putting the U with the downward arrow (http://ubuntuone.com/30SgZIkoCLbxKWGhS2CUpY) on the side of the bag? On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Ian Santopietro isan...@gmail.com wrote: I see, thanks for pointing that out. Going on that theme, many people recognise that a down arrow

Re: [Ayatana] Software center icon needs designers minds, and new humanity desktop methafor.

2011-09-06 Thread gespert...@gmail.com
2011/9/6 Eylem Koca eylemk...@gmail.com: How about putting the U with the downward arrow (http://ubuntuone.com/30SgZIkoCLbxKWGhS2CUpY) on the side of the bag? Don't. Please. I pointed an alternative to show that it is possible to come up with something different than a shopping bag in a simple,

Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu Applications

2011-09-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
Jeremy Nickurak jer...@nickurak.ca wrote: Maybe this should strictly be the set of applications that gets installed-by-default, or included-on-the-cd/dvd? These would typically constitute the Ubuntu experience, right? Maybe it's everything in main, and not in restricted/universe/multiverse?

Re: [Ayatana] Software center icon needs designers minds, and new humanity desktop methafor.

2011-09-06 Thread Ian Santopietro
I don't think people necessarily associate shopping bags with paid apps. People using Android (Which uses a bag as it's icon) tend to get more free apps than paid ones. They still use the Market icon, which looks like a shopping bag. I very rarely see any Android users opening up the browser to go

Re: [Ayatana] Software center icon needs designers minds, and new humanity desktop methafor.

2011-09-06 Thread gespert...@gmail.com
First: who is people? You need to define an audience. Do you assume that newcomers are people who come from Android phones to a desktop OS? If Ubuntu's audience is computer literate people with smartphones and previous experience with appstores that use a shopping bag as an icon, then great. We're

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/optimizations into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-09-06 Thread Javier Jardón
Javier Jardón has proposed merging lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/optimizations into lp:indicator-datetime. Requested reviews: Indicator Applet Developers (indicator-applet-developers) For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~jjardon/indicator-datetime/optimizations/+merge/74210 --

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/checkforpow into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-09-06 Thread Javier Jardón
Javier Jardón has proposed merging lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/checkforpow into lp:indicator-datetime. Requested reviews: Indicator Applet Developers (indicator-applet-developers) For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~jjardon/indicator-datetime/checkforpow/+merge/74224 --

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/remove_death_code into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-09-06 Thread Javier Jardón
Javier Jardón has proposed merging lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/remove_death_code into lp:indicator-datetime. Requested reviews: Indicator Applet Developers (indicator-applet-developers) For more details, see:

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~cjcurran/indicator-session/hide-user-menu-via-gsettings-key into lp:indicator-session

2011-09-06 Thread Conor Curran
Conor Curran has proposed merging lp:~cjcurran/indicator-session/hide-user-menu-via-gsettings-key into lp:indicator-session. Requested reviews: Ted Gould (ted) Related bugs: Bug #834137 in Session Menu: user menu says [Invalid UTF-8]

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~cjcurran/indicator-session/hide-user-menu-via-gsettings-key into lp:indicator-session

2011-09-06 Thread Ted Gould
Review: Approve -- https://code.launchpad.net/~cjcurran/indicator-session/hide-user-menu-via-gsettings-key/+merge/74262 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch lp:indicator-session. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana-commits

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~cjcurran/indicator-session/hide-user-menu-via-gsettings-key into lp:indicator-session

2011-09-06 Thread Ted Gould
The proposal to merge lp:~cjcurran/indicator-session/hide-user-menu-via-gsettings-key into lp:indicator-session has been updated. Status: Needs review = Approved For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~cjcurran/indicator-session/hide-user-menu-via-gsettings-key/+merge/74262 --

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~cjcurran/indicator-session/hide-user-menu-via-gsettings-key into lp:indicator-session

2011-09-06 Thread noreply
The proposal to merge lp:~cjcurran/indicator-session/hide-user-menu-via-gsettings-key into lp:indicator-session has been updated. Status: Approved = Merged For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~cjcurran/indicator-session/hide-user-menu-via-gsettings-key/+merge/74262 --

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~cjcurran/indicator-session/null-error-user-dbus-mgr into lp:indicator-session

2011-09-06 Thread Ted Gould
Review: Approve -- https://code.launchpad.net/~cjcurran/indicator-session/null-error-user-dbus-mgr/+merge/74080 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch lp:indicator-session. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana-commits Post to

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~cjcurran/indicator-session/null-error-user-dbus-mgr into lp:indicator-session

2011-09-06 Thread Ted Gould
The proposal to merge lp:~cjcurran/indicator-session/null-error-user-dbus-mgr into lp:indicator-session has been updated. Status: Needs review = Approved For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~cjcurran/indicator-session/null-error-user-dbus-mgr/+merge/74080 --

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/checkforpow into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-09-06 Thread Ted Gould
The proposal to merge lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/checkforpow into lp:indicator-datetime has been updated. Status: Needs review = Approved For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~jjardon/indicator-datetime/checkforpow/+merge/74224 --

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/checkforpow into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-09-06 Thread Ted Gould
Review: Approve -- https://code.launchpad.net/~jjardon/indicator-datetime/checkforpow/+merge/74224 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch lp:indicator-datetime. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana-commits Post to :

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/remove_death_code into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-09-06 Thread Ted Gould
The proposal to merge lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/remove_death_code into lp:indicator-datetime has been updated. Status: Needs review = Approved For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~jjardon/indicator-datetime/remove_death_code/+merge/74227 --

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/remove_death_code into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-09-06 Thread Ted Gould
Review: Approve -- https://code.launchpad.net/~jjardon/indicator-datetime/remove_death_code/+merge/74227 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch lp:indicator-datetime. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana-commits Post to :

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/optimizations into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-09-06 Thread Ted Gould
Review: Approve -- https://code.launchpad.net/~jjardon/indicator-datetime/optimizations/+merge/74210 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch lp:indicator-datetime. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana-commits Post to :

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/optimizations into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-09-06 Thread Ted Gould
The proposal to merge lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/optimizations into lp:indicator-datetime has been updated. Status: Needs review = Approved For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~jjardon/indicator-datetime/optimizations/+merge/74210 --

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/fix-837440 into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-09-06 Thread Ted Gould
Review: Needs Information It seems that the wall-clock isn't in 3.1.91 which is what is in Oneiric: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/amd64/libgnome-desktop-3-dev/filelist So that would mean the pkgconfig check is wrong there. Also, I'm a little uncomfortable using a schema that isn't in our

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/remove_death_code into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-09-06 Thread noreply
The proposal to merge lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/remove_death_code into lp:indicator-datetime has been updated. Status: Approved = Merged For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~jjardon/indicator-datetime/remove_death_code/+merge/74227 --

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/checkforpow into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-09-06 Thread noreply
The proposal to merge lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/checkforpow into lp:indicator-datetime has been updated. Status: Approved = Merged For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~jjardon/indicator-datetime/checkforpow/+merge/74224 --

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/optimizations into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-09-06 Thread noreply
The proposal to merge lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/optimizations into lp:indicator-datetime has been updated. Status: Approved = Merged For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~jjardon/indicator-datetime/optimizations/+merge/74210 --

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/fix-837440 into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-09-06 Thread Javier Jardón
It seems that the wall-clock isn't in 3.1.91 which is what is in Oneiric: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/amd64/libgnome-desktop-3-dev/filelist So that would mean the pkgconfig check is wrong there. It's : http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-desktop/tree/libgnome-desktop?id=3.1.91 Should

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~sargentd/libindicate/opional-mono into lp:libindicate

2011-09-06 Thread Ted Gould
The proposal to merge lp:~sargentd/libindicate/opional-mono into lp:libindicate has been updated. Status: Needs review = Approved For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~sargentd/libindicate/opional-mono/+merge/73989 --

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~sargentd/libindicate/opional-mono into lp:libindicate

2011-09-06 Thread Ted Gould
Review: Approve -- https://code.launchpad.net/~sargentd/libindicate/opional-mono/+merge/73989 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch lp:libindicate. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana-commits Post to :

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~sargentd/libindicate/opional-mono into lp:libindicate

2011-09-06 Thread noreply
The proposal to merge lp:~sargentd/libindicate/opional-mono into lp:libindicate has been updated. Status: Approved = Merged For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~sargentd/libindicate/opional-mono/+merge/73989 --

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~jjardon/indicator-datetime/fix-775113 into lp:indicator-datetime

2011-09-06 Thread Ted Gould
No currently a new enough version of GLib in Oneiric to test. Need to circle back when that gets updated. -- https://code.launchpad.net/~jjardon/indicator-datetime/fix-775113/+merge/73846 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch lp:indicator-datetime.