Re: [Ayatana] Global menu in Oneiric Ocelot (11.10)

2011-06-17 Thread Joost Verdoorn
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:43 PM, frederik.nn...@gmail.com frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:10, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote: On 06/17/2011 11:14 AM, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: But obviously our interaction hardware is aiming at immediacy,

Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Re: Global menu in Oneiric Ocelot (11.10)

2011-05-24 Thread Joost Verdoorn
I have to say, I'm with Ian and Ello here. The 24px vertical space is only * wasted*, i.e. not usable by any application, when you are using non-maximized windows, and using non-maximized windows basically means you don't need those 24px anyway. Now, when you'd move the panel to the bottom, that's