Re: [Ayatana] Global menu in Oneiric Ocelot (11.10)

2011-06-17 Thread Matthew Bassett
On 16/06/11 22:17, Matthew Bassett wrote: On 15/06/11 21:28, Matthew Bassett wrote: [some stuff deleted] 1) to not activate menu drop downs until mouse-up (so you can grab the the menu bar/title bar without issue and drag the menu around), or 2) only make the menu appear when you mouse

Re: [Ayatana] Global menu in Oneiric Ocelot (11.10)

2011-06-17 Thread Matthew Bassett
On 17/06/11 12:06, Adrian Maier wrote: Hiding the menu seems to be considered by some people eye-pleasing , but it breaks productivity. It's irritating to click on something that is_not_yet_visible_until_you_reach_there . I understand your concern; I think this something that someone (!)

Re: [Ayatana] Global menu in Oneiric Ocelot (11.10)

2011-06-17 Thread Matthew Bassett
On 17/06/11 14:10, Joost Verdoorn wrote: A beautiful example of a menu button: http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TdFlT_A0vxI/Eco/lWRn14SImeo/s500/mockups%20menu-experiments%20eog-menu-experiments.png

[Ayatana] Discover-ability / Desktop tips

2011-06-17 Thread Matthew Bassett
I hope I am not raising something that has already been addressed in the archives of this mailing list, but... There are many features of Unity (and also Gnome-shell) that are different from previous desktops and in that sense non-obvious. Would it make sense to have a 'tips' application

Re: [Ayatana] Global menu in Oneiric Ocelot (11.10)

2011-06-16 Thread Matthew Bassett
under the pointer. Having refined the above: I suspect the experience would be frustrating for those people who expect to drag the pointer down an active menu after mouse-down. On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 14:30, Matthew Bassett li...@mbassett.net mailto:li...@mbassett.net wrote: On 15/06/11

Re: [Ayatana] Global menu in Oneiric Ocelot (11.10)

2011-06-16 Thread Matthew Bassett
On 15/06/11 21:28, Matthew Bassett wrote: [some stuff deleted] 1) to not activate menu drop downs until mouse-up (so you can grab the the menu bar/title bar without issue and drag the menu around), or 2) only make the menu appear when you mouse over the left hand half of the title bar

Re: [Ayatana] Global menu in Oneiric Ocelot (11.10)

2011-06-16 Thread Matthew Bassett
On 16/06/11 09:34, Philipp Wendler wrote: Hi, Am 16.06.2011 10:24, schrieb Adrian Maier: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 09:53, Philipp Wendlerubu...@philippwendler.de wrote: Am 15.06.2011 22:28, schrieb Matthew Bassett: What about just having the menu bar consistently appearing with the window

Re: [Ayatana] Global menu in Oneiric Ocelot (11.10)

2011-06-15 Thread Matthew Bassett
On 14/06/11 22:00, Florian Diesch wrote: Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com writes: Niklas Rosenqvist wrote on 19/05/11 10:15: 2011/5/19 Florian Diesch die...@spamfence.net ... It's about impossible to use focus follows mouse and multiple windows with the global menu, which makes it

Re: [Ayatana] Global menu in Oneiric Ocelot (11.10)

2011-06-15 Thread Matthew Bassett
On 15/06/11 21:28, Matthew Bassett wrote: [deletia] 1) to not activate menu drop downs until mouse-up (so you can grab the the menu bar/title bar without issue and drag the menu around), or That should have been drag the WINDOW around