Re: [Ayatana] make adding ppas easier

2011-09-04 Thread Shane Fagan
add-apt-repository does it pretty easily. On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Christian Rupp christ...@r-k-r.de wrote: For newbies its very hard to install their first ppa and also if you know the way it takes you some time to install a ppa. Why don't just enable a short link like

Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu welcome center

2011-05-13 Thread Shane Fagan
I thought about this a lot but instead of a welcome center id love if we had a nice tutorial that walks you through how to use unity. So when you open a fresh install it would ask you if you want the walk through and then do a series of animations showing how to open the dash, maybe the shortcut

Re: [Ayatana] Thoughts on Unity design

2011-04-29 Thread Shane Fagan
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Phong Cao phn...@gmail.com wrote: I am too have been for a long time a Ubuntu's fan. However, I am not trying to be negative but... I would say that Unity's design is way far behind GNOME Shell in Fedora 15. I recommend anybody in this email list try out

[Ayatana] Dynamic menu items

2011-04-16 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey all, I have a hard to explain idea so read it and ask questions if you don't understand what I mean :) I was looking at the stuff in the menu bars of applications and I was wondering if there is something you use a lot would there be any way to make it easier to access. So I was thinking

Re: [Ayatana] Dynamic menu items

2011-04-16 Thread Shane Fagan
for a long time we should change that. --fagan On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Kevin Godby god...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Shane. On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Shane Fagan shanepatrickfa...@ubuntu.com wrote: I have a hard to explain idea so read it and ask questions if you don't understand what I

Re: [Ayatana] Dynamic menu items

2011-04-16 Thread Shane Fagan
. On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Shane Fagan shanepatrickfa...@ubuntu.com wrote: We can do it and also learn from microsoft's mistake. Im not saying it wouldnt be a challenge to make it work but I think we should be looking to do things like this to make the interface more intelligent. Menus

Re: [Ayatana] Dynamic menu items

2011-04-16 Thread Shane Fagan
hey Mitja, On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Mitja Pagon mitja.pa...@inueni.com wrote: Nicely put,  to extend on you example, the problem Microsoft faced were not pull down menus themselves, it was rather the fact that Office applications acquired so much functionality, that pull down menus

Re: [Ayatana] folders for unity

2011-03-13 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey David, I dont really love what you did here but when you use the firefox icon looks pretty sweet. --fagan On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:29 AM, David david.reichl...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, my idea: we have 3 types of folders ( or mini-dash ;-) ) one for files one for launchers and one

Re: [Ayatana] window and workspace management in unity

2011-03-09 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey Bazon, On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Bazon bazonbl...@arcor.de wrote: Nice timing for you, Shane, but unfortunately no one else seems to care? Give them a chance they will comment soon id say plus Mark tends to do batch replies to this list so it may take a little while to get back but he

[Ayatana] A better chat experience

2011-03-08 Thread Shane Fagan
Ok so ive been thinking a lot about chat and empathy/telepathy is awesome but Shell is pulling away from unity in terms of how to best use it. At the moment we have the default empathy so we have the window and messaging menu system. While Shell has a special chat notifier that you can see the

Re: [Ayatana] window and workspace management in unity

2011-03-07 Thread Shane Fagan
Nice timing I did a post on ubuntu planet about workspaces and had some opinions on it http://shanefagan.com/opening-applications-on-different-workspaces/ TBH I think we can do some nice stuff with workspaces if we think hard about it. The issue is we need to be very careful since they are

Re: [Ayatana-dev] Setting up a Unity 2D development environment

2011-02-13 Thread Shane Fagan
On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 20:49 -0700, Nathan Moos wrote: Any advice for setting up a Unity 2D development environment. I know there's not any documentation on it, but I could use a getting started guide. -Nathan Moos ___ Oh and I forgot to say to

Re: [Ayatana] Launcher DnD - import applications on DnD start

2011-02-10 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey Sam, If I understand you right you want to allow applications to be opened on the file by dragging the file to it then im all for it. It doesnt sound like a whole lot of work to get it working either. --fagan On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 23:26 +0800, Sam Spilsbury wrote: Hi there, I was

Re: [Ayatana] Unity widgets mockups

2011-02-05 Thread Shane Fagan
I like the idea of widgets but if we do it we should do something new. The mockups on that wiki page look a lot like every other widget system. fagan On 5 Feb 2011 14:38, dani daniplana...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, i'm Daniel you probably knows me for other ubuntu mockups and ideas. Today i present

Re: [Ayatana] Gwibber and Empathy notifications overlap confusingly

2011-01-12 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey all, On this entire thread I have 1 comment and I havent been following any of it so forgive me if im repeating what someone else said. The comment I have is that you can use both facebook and gtalk in empathy and you can also get status updates from facebook and buzz. The one thing id like

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

2011-01-03 Thread Shane Fagan
, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: On 10/12/10 06:52, Shane Fagan wrote: On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 12:04 +0530, Owais Lone wrote: Just wanted to check. Are Windicators targeted for Natty? How much work has been done? What if I wanted to play with it a little? No there was no talk about anything unless

Re: [Ayatana] Evolution indicator

2011-01-03 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey, Since you agree can you put someone onto it for us. I would probably do it myself but it seems like a good bit of work and I have exams next month and I dont know if the evolution upstream would accept the patch. --fagan On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 00:03 +, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: On

Re: [Ayatana] Autostart in Quicklists.

2010-12-28 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey Owais, I didnt hear anything about it but it wouldnt be hard to implement. The question is would the regular user use it? I dont think it would be a good idea putting a start at login thing I prefer to have that in the preferences of the apps themselves. --fagan On Wed, 2010-12-29 at 02:26

Re: [Ayatana] Do You Use Gwibber?

2010-12-06 Thread Shane Fagan
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 01:58 +0100, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: esteemed readers, Do you use Gwibber? It would be quite gratifying if this thread could produce some statistics or opinions. I'm currently evaluating the role of Gwibber in the Ayatana subsystem. We currently have Mail

Re: [Ayatana] Applications suggestion according to hardware capabilities

2010-11-17 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey, I cant see any problems detecting if the computer has 3D compatibility, the processor speed and ram since they are readily available but if you want to get into webcam detection and other external stuff it would require a little bit of work. The 3D compatibility, speed and ram are very

Re: [Ayatana] Global Menu on the Desktop

2010-11-01 Thread Shane Fagan
I agree with the idea of less wasted space. So putting in the global menu into the desktop for maximized apps is a good idea. If its a huge screen its a lot easier to throw your mouse up to the top of the screen than go for the menu bar in the app I think. It might be slightly further but it

Re: [Ayatana] Sound theme - startup

2010-10-30 Thread Shane Fagan
It is very true and changing the entire sound theme has been kinda overlooked over the past 2 cycles and it really needs a revamp. It has been mentioned on this list at length but nothing seems to be happening. Id say Canonical need to either pay someone or do some sort of promoted competition for

Re: [Ayatana] SVG default wallpaper was: OMG!

2010-09-06 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey Mark, I presume its just Martin's script is needed. --fagan On Mon, 2010-09-06 at 17:30 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: On 05/09/10 06:07, Martin Owens wrote: Well you know how gullible I am for making things for free ;-), here you go your feature request has been granted:

Re: [Ayatana] Maverick Movies!

2010-08-21 Thread Shane Fagan
Well there is a problem that the font isnt out yet to the public and I dont think most of the ads people are making are ubuntu members. If a person is making an ad is there a way to give them access to the font to make the branding consistent? --fagan On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Mark

Re: [Ayatana] Maverick Movies!

2010-08-21 Thread Shane Fagan
this... [1] http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/new-ubuntu-1010-font-available-for.html On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 16:46, Shane Fagan shanepatrickfa...@ubuntu.comwrote: Well there is a problem that the font isnt out yet to the public and I dont think most of the ads people are making

Re: [Ayatana] Maverick Movies!

2010-08-20 Thread Shane Fagan
Well of course we have to get the brand correct and all but we should support any efforts to promote Ubuntu. --fagan On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Christian Giordano christian.giord...@canonical.com wrote: Shouldn't we promote our style guides? Sure they probably don't include video

Re: [Ayatana] Maverick Movies!

2010-08-20 Thread Shane Fagan
:) Cheers, chr On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Shane Fagan shanepatrickfa...@ubuntu.com wrote: Well of course we have to get the brand correct and all but we should support any efforts to promote Ubuntu. --fagan On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Christian Giordano christian.giord

Re: [Ayatana] Maverick Movies!

2010-08-20 Thread Shane Fagan
know if the Ayatana list is the right place for this discussion, but I'm curious about Canonical/Ubuntu's philosphy for walking that line, navigating that challenge in an innovative, open source way. Thanks! Jake On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Shane Fagan shanepatrickfa...@ubuntu.com

Re: [Ayatana] Maverick Movies!

2010-08-20 Thread Shane Fagan
Well I was trying to make up a few but pitivi doesnt do transitions or other effects so I couldnt make anything nice --fagan On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Jonathan Blackhall johnny.one@gmail.com wrote: I was hoping to make a few nice videos of Ubuntu 9.10 (similar to what you're

[Ayatana] Highlighting recently installed software in the menu

2010-08-20 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey all, I had an idea after I installed something and that was I just installed this program but where did it go? Then I looked for the program and found it in the menu so I was thinking we can make it easier by highlighting the menu entry of the recently installed programs. Also I thought it

Re: [Ayatana] Rhythmbox sync

2010-07-11 Thread Shane Fagan
at 22:19, Shane Fagan shanepatrickfa...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hey all, I was listening to the UDS session remotely a couple of months back and I remember the rhythmbox maintainer said that sync support is in the next version of rhythmbox. So

[Ayatana] Rhythmbox sync

2010-07-10 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey all, I was listening to the UDS session remotely a couple of months back and I remember the rhythmbox maintainer said that sync support is in the next version of rhythmbox. So its in maverick but what I thought is that its not at all obvious to get to. You click on the device name then there

Re: [Ayatana] Updating UI issues

2010-06-21 Thread Shane Fagan
On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 08:28 -0700, David Hamm wrote: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdateHandling#Installing; did someone mentions Transformers? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akNJ6S2UqsE apologies ahead of time, transformers are awesome. On a more professional note. Android

Re: [Ayatana] Updating UI issues

2010-06-20 Thread Shane Fagan
On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 03:13 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shane Fagan wrote on 18/06/10 23:08: ... On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 21:42 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: ... I have now completed about half of a specification for software

Re: [Ayatana] Updating UI issues

2010-06-18 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey mpt, Could you give me a task and priority list? I have some time until alpha 2 ish to do some development after that im going to be doing some quickly work. --fagan On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 21:42 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shane

Re: [Ayatana] Should we create a distro-upgrade testing team?

2010-06-14 Thread Shane Fagan
This isnt really the list for this please take it to ubuntu-testing. --fagan On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 12:40 +0200, Frederik Nnaji wrote: sounds interesting! On 2010-06-11, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: Undoubtedly this may sound kind of crazy, but I've been iso-testing for nearly two

Re: [Ayatana] Software Center Donate Button

2010-06-04 Thread Shane Fagan
This thread is kind of off topic for this list you should be talking about it on devel-discuss or ubuntu-desktop. This list is for user experience and donate buttons havent got anything to do with that. --fagan On Fri, 2010-06-04 at 18:07 +0300, Toni Ruottu wrote: Who would get to decide where

Re: [Ayatana] Libappindicator rejected as an external dependancy for Gnome 3.0

2010-06-03 Thread Shane Fagan
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 18:22 -0600, Jeremy Nickurak wrote: As mentioned in http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.devel.announce/101, libappindicator was rejected for use as an external dependancy for Gnome 3.0. As I understand it, that means that applications supported as a part of the

[Ayatana] Greyspace dragging

2010-06-01 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey all, I was using totem and I wanted to drag it. So I went up to the top of the window and dragged it. When I did that I thought to myself what about the greyspace on the bottom of the screen?. There is a load of space between the video control and the volume that could be used to grab the

[Ayatana] Sound theme update

2010-06-01 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey all, Is there any more movement on the sound theme yet for the light themes Mark? I didnt see any blueprints at the UDS for it. --fagan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe :

[Ayatana] Updating UI issues

2010-05-26 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey all, I have a bone to pick with the update system in Ubuntu. It hasnt changed since I started using Ubuntu (Gutsy). For one I dont think we should get asked our password to check for updates. (Thats a big one for me). I dont even think by default the user should have to check at all. I think

Re: [Ayatana] Encrypted DVD issues

2010-05-25 Thread Shane Fagan
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 18:30 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shane Fagan wrote on 25/05/10 15:28: ... I noticed that when I double click a DVD movie on the desktop it opens the folder in nautilus. Can we open it in totem instead? It seems

Re: [Ayatana] Encrypted DVD issues

2010-05-25 Thread Shane Fagan
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 17:08 -0400, Martin Owens wrote: On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 18:30 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: Absolutely, this is something we can and should fix in Maverick. We plan to be selling one or two bits of commercial software in 10.10, and for well-known legal reasons,

Re: [Ayatana] Encrypted DVD issues

2010-05-25 Thread Shane Fagan
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 23:40 +0200, Conscious User wrote: Le mardi 25 mai 2010 à 18:30 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas a écrit : Absolutely, this is something we can and should fix in Maverick. We plan to be selling one or two bits of commercial software in 10.10, and for well-known legal

Re: [Ayatana] Encrypted DVD issues

2010-05-25 Thread Shane Fagan
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 00:00 +0200, Conscious User wrote: The problem with DVDs compared to MP3s is that they require paying for DVD playback and for MP3s you get 100 free licences so unless you are going for a huge deployment your not braking any laws. So DVD playback is pay per licence

Re: [Ayatana] Clock Menu Redesign [was: Evolution is: progress]

2010-05-24 Thread Shane Fagan
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 13:47 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: On 21/05/10 18:47, Frederik Nnaji wrote: Hi Nicholas ;) On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 18:01, Nicholas Ipsen n...@ncli-design.com wrote: I think it would be nice to include a weather indicator, maybe to the left of the Clock? I

Re: [Ayatana] GSoC '10 Idea : NotifyOSD improvements

2010-05-17 Thread Shane Fagan
On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 11:11 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: On 15/03/10 16:15, Akshay Gupta wrote: 1.) Make the OSD customizable * setting up persistence time * UI modifications over a basic structure * Font size/style ...other similar stuff we can decide upon. OK

Re: [Ayatana] Menu complication

2010-05-17 Thread Shane Fagan
David will this happen for Maverick or Maverick+1 for the desktop? On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Shane Fagan shanepatrickfa...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hey all, I looked recently at the system menu items and I have to say even I got confused. Theres just way too many menu items

Re: [Ayatana] Epiphany as a desktop-consistent web browser in Ubuntu

2010-05-17 Thread Shane Fagan
On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 11:15 -0700, Tyler Brainerd wrote: Aren't we after the application selection stage? Any change would have to be 10.10 +1 Well we are but id say if there was something important that was missed im sure the desktop team would want to talk about it. I mentioned Epiphany and

Re: [Ayatana] How to handle long labels in indicators?

2010-05-16 Thread Shane Fagan
On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 17:51 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: On 16/05/10 16:54, Shane Fagan wrote: Anyone have any ideas how to do the long labels without them looking so strange? Classically, the content scrolls-and-pauses, on a repeating cycle. Mark Hey Mark, Can we do

Re: [Ayatana] Default to single click to open files and folders

2010-05-12 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey all, I completely missed this thread so sorry if im going over anything someone else said. I like the idea of switching from double click but we'll have to handle when people double click so we dont open multiple instances when people expect the previous behaviour. Other than that id agree

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

2010-05-03 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey, In terms of the sound indicators id like if all the sound levels could be controlled from the main sound indicator rather than having 2 sound level controls. So when an application that uses sound starts playing, another sound level bar is added with a description above it. Just an idea but

Re: [Ayatana] Unexpected close functionality

2010-04-27 Thread Shane Fagan
H would it be crazy if I propose making a different button for minimising to the notification area? Its just if the close button means close the program in most users mind and the minimise button means leaving the window open but hiding it away, then what should the new user expect to minimise

Re: [Ayatana] Unexpected close functionality

2010-04-27 Thread Shane Fagan
I suggested in my last email making another button just to minimise to the notification area. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Shane Fagan shanepatrickfa...@ubuntu.com wrote: H would it be crazy if I propose making a different button for minimising

Re: [Ayatana] Unexpected close functionality

2010-04-27 Thread Shane Fagan
On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 18:08 +0530, Vishnoo wrote: On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 23:51 +1200, Benjamin Humphrey wrote: I don't like the idea of having an extra button only for apps that close to the notification area, if that's what you mean. Nope.. no extra buttons. I meant , instead of the

Re: [Ayatana] Finger Swipe Gadgets

2010-04-27 Thread Shane Fagan
I wouldnt think it would be that hard to get it working with the integrated web cam. If its done right it would be awesome. -fagan On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 14:56 -0400, Martin Owens wrote: On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 09:56 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Best we get those finger-swipe gadgets

Re: [Ayatana] Finger Swipe Gadgets

2010-04-27 Thread Shane Fagan
:-) Alex. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Shane Fagan shanepatrickfa...@ubuntu.com wrote: I wouldnt think it would be that hard to get it working with the integrated web cam. If its done right it would be awesome. -fagan

Re: [Ayatana] Integrating Application Search Install

2010-04-26 Thread Shane Fagan
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 13:30 +0200, Conscious User wrote: Well the Shell guys still arent convinced about using Zeitgeist yet but tracker and Zeitgeist would be very powerful for FAYT. Using Zeitgeist you could filter the results of searches going by their regular activity for instance

Re: [Ayatana] Integrating Application Search Install

2010-04-26 Thread Shane Fagan
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 14:35 +0200, Frederik Nnaji wrote: hi there, conscious :D On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:11, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com wrote: We should also keep in mind that the average user is probably a slow typist. there's nothing better for a slow typist than

[Ayatana] Unexpected close functionality

2010-04-26 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey all, I was playing a song in rhythmbox and I pressed the close button (the x button) and currently it stays running in the background. I wondered to myself is the close button meant to be close window rather than close program? -fagan ___

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-04-21 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey mpt, I think the target is far enough but I wouldnt like to remove it from the default install until upstreams adopt the new spec fully. Which will take a long enough time. I think remove it cold turkey from the next LTS release just to give it fair warning to universe app

Re: [Ayatana] gnome 3 interface?¿

2010-04-03 Thread Shane Fagan
and it seems that the Shell guys want to do something cool here but it may not be within the spec of the app indicators so maybe it will have to be tweeked for the Gnome 3.0 release of Ubuntu. Regards Shane Fagan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net

Re: [Ayatana] Web application notifications vs. Notify OSD

2010-02-11 Thread Shane Fagan
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 07:04 +, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Thanks for posting the discussion, MPT. Your suggestion of a dedicated, managed window for this seems quite reasonable, at least as a starting point. Separately, it might be worth exploring a persistent indicator as a placeholder

Re: [Ayatana] Application indicators in gnome shell

2010-01-21 Thread Shane Fagan
On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 16:40 -0600, Ted Gould wrote: On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 00:56 +, Shane Fagan wrote: I just wanted to ask about application indicators in gnome shell. The screenshots they have made up may not work with the spec. Here is how they want rhythmbox to look http

Re: [Ayatana] Application indicators in gnome shell

2010-01-21 Thread Shane Fagan
On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 17:24 -0600, Ted Gould wrote: On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 23:01 +, Shane Fagan wrote: Well would the implementation of the application indicators have to be revisited for lucid+1 because Shell doesnt have a way to embed things in its panel like how it is currently

[Ayatana] Application indicators in gnome shell

2010-01-14 Thread Shane Fagan
with the application indicator's spec currently? Regards Shane Fagan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net

Re: [Ayatana] Message Indicator: Listing apps in menu even if they are not on

2009-11-09 Thread Shane Fagan
. I think they want to get away from the old model but they havent thought of anything concrete to replace it yet. Regards Shane Fagan -Original Message- From: Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com To: Ayatana List ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Message Indicator: Listing

[Ayatana] Notification consistency

2009-09-07 Thread Shane Fagan
Hi, I was looking for some information about the sound level. I hovered the mouse over the sound icon and a tool tip appeared displaying the information. I was thinking that this info could be displayed in notify-osd too. If you change the sound level a nice notification appears displaying the

Re: [Ayatana] Chocolate Color Scheme

2009-06-21 Thread Shane Fagan
Personally another earthy colour scheme isn't what im looking for. I like notify-osd I think its slick but at the moment its a little out of place with the desktop look. So in that way maybe making a darker theme to match might work well but not brown please not brown. Like a light grey might be

Re: [Ayatana] Chocolate Color Scheme

2009-06-21 Thread Shane Fagan
Well Gnome-Shell is glossy but in the short term the panels are quite ugly and the brown makes it worse to look at. My point is that at the moment compared to Mac OSX. In something as basic as the theme we have brown. Mac has its white solid and slick. Windows has black ish grey which also looks