Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-07-07 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Martín Soto ha scritto: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Steve Dodier sidnio...@gmail.com mailto:sidnio...@gmail.com wrote: What about console-presenter and evince / other PDF viewers ? They're used too for presentations. I don't think we can maintain an exhaustive list of

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login

2009-07-07 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il 07/07/2009 12:55, mac_v ha scritto: Why do they have to wait! there is no need , it is just install+shutdown! User just selected install and shutdown! I just don't trust the system enough to guarantee it will shut down, and don't trust an old laptop I use at office enough to be sure that

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-07-07 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il 07/07/2009 13:30, Martín Soto ha scritto: I see a big one: you can easily forget activating the do-not-disturb thing, or deactivating it later. For example, unless you're a very experienced speaker, you're likely to be nervous before starting a presentation. This increases the probability

Re: [Ayatana] Solving the user forgets about presentation mode problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

2009-07-07 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il 07/07/2009 15:19, Praveen ha scritto: hmm.. not a bad idea though one must consider that this one initial notification will be always displayed whenever one goes fullscreen. so if i watch a lot of movies or am review/editing a presentation i would be going to fullscreen and back so many many

Re: [Ayatana] Solving the user forgets about presentation mode problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

2009-07-07 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il 07/07/2009 16:39, Sohail Mirza ha scritto: The limitations of the form-factor may require entirely a different solution to common problems. This much is apparent when comparing Ubuntu Desktop to Ubuntu Netbook Remix. The EEEPC 1000HE has a 10'' screen on which the default gnome desktop is

Re: [Ayatana] Solving the user forgets about presentation mode problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

2009-07-07 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il 07/07/2009 17:34, Sohail Mirza ha scritto: Weighed against the configuration set and dialogues being proposing, I still think that full-screen = I'm busy is a reasonable assumption to make with the vast majority of the user population. I would venture a guess that most users don't even use,

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-07-07 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il 07/07/2009 17:40, Mark Shuttleworth ha scritto: What about putting up a notification when someone goes into fullscreen mode that notifications are enabled and will be displayed, as a reminder that they might want to disable them? This was just discussed in another thread, with he

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login

2009-07-06 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
On sab, 2009-07-04 at 15:31 -0300, Paulo J. S. Silva wrote: That is a good point. However, the likelihood of a failure in a security update that doesn't allow for a clean shutdown is very low (it never happened to me and I use Linux since 1994). I know that perhaps it is overkill to talk

Re: [Ayatana] System / hardware indicator

2009-06-23 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno mar, 16/06/2009 alle 15.48 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia ha scritto: On 16/06/2009 Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Ted Gould has been a proponent of a system / hardware indicator, and I've been working on how to handle things like USB-unmount and Bluetooth-connect and am coming round

[Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines

2009-06-23 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
[CC-ing ayatana, if this is wrong just tell me] Today I tried empathy on my karmic testing system. Here are the scores. The last part IS VERY IMPORTANT please read it too. Don't thake my comments as angry, I'm just in a hurry. +1 The first time I launch it, it offers me to import accounts from

Re: [Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines

2009-06-23 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
On mar, 2009-06-23 at 18:04 +0200, Nicolò Chieffo wrote: Sayersandrew-ubuntu-de...@pileofstuff.org wrote: who don't feel like compiling their IM client from source every day. you are definitely right, anyway now empathy is actively developed, and the only way to test it is git Nah. I

Re: [Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines

2009-06-23 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
On mar, 2009-06-23 at 16:58 +0100, Andrew Sayers wrote: Could you give us some idea of when a testable version will land in Karmic? We've got two months left until the final decision on whether this becomes as significant a part of Ubuntu as Firefox or OpenOffice, so it would be nice

Re: [Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines

2009-06-23 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
On mar, 2009-06-23 at 19:00 +0200, Sense Hofstede wrote: Hello, There is an PPA at https://launchpad.net/~telepathy/+archive/ppa. Unfortunately it gives you 2.27.2, instead of the latest 2.27.3. It is a start, though, and I expect 2.27.3 to be uploaded soon. Very kind of you. Will test

Re: [Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines

2009-06-23 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
On mar, 2009-06-23 at 19:13 +0200, Nicolò Chieffo wrote: as I was saying 2.27.3 is already old. You need to be synchronized to a current git version of empathy, weather it is self compiled or from an external PPA. ah, ok so I will not test the PPA :) Didn't check the version number.

Re: [Ayatana] What most people would find useful (was: Re: Updates on Login )

2009-06-18 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno gio, 18/06/2009 alle 18.25 -0400, Scott Kitterman ha scritto: These would also probably need some additional QA to reduce the risk for users installing the update with no chance to consider if it would be a good update for them. I will trust no human on that :) If you have a way

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login (was: Re: [Fwd: Update manager])

2009-06-17 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno mer, 17/06/2009 alle 09.26 -0500, David Siegel ha scritto: I auto-login, so I would not use this feature, but let's not think of gurus like us The argument that's for gurus or power users keeps popping up :) This can not be applied here: auto-login is enabled by checking an innocent

Re: [Ayatana] Idea: letting users of the testing distribution participate in testing and report feedback on different UI choices if they wish

2009-06-17 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno mer, 17/06/2009 alle 19.23 +0200, Martín Soto ha scritto: 2009/6/16 Vincenzo Ciancia cian...@di.unipi.it If we manage to come this far (and I hope we do at some point) this is already a usability experiment. We'd have to design it properly though, so that results can be considered

Re: [Ayatana] Mumbles Brings (More) Growl-Like Notifications to Linux

2009-06-17 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno mer, 17/06/2009 alle 11.35 -0700, ajmctaggart ha scritto: I am sure many of you have already seen this, I for one have not. Seems like it would be of interest to those working on notifications... http://lifehacker.com/5293943/mumbles-brings-more-growl +like-notifications-to-linux

Re: [Ayatana] [Fwd: Re: Update manager]

2009-06-16 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
On 16/06/2009 Ryan Prior wrote: I don't see the popups as intrusive. No information is being sent outside the computer. A window is being opened so that you see it, because it very important and it absolutely needs your attention. It's not as though some foreign entity is intruding upon your

Re: [Ayatana] [Fwd: Re: Update manager] - a secure way to ask for information

2009-06-16 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
On 16/06/2009 Natan Yellin wrote: A few websites use a similar trick and display a custom image which the user chooses. I think it's a bit of a better solution than using a phrase, because people are more likely to notice if it changes. Hmm, if I enter fatti non fummo a viver come bruti and

Re: [Ayatana] Getting users to care (was Re: [Fwd: Re: Update manager])

2009-06-16 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno mar, 16/06/2009 alle 17.17 +0200, Martín Soto ha scritto: Would you mind showing us some evidence of said overwhelmingly negatively reaction? From what I've seen on the mailing lists so far, those complaining about the update pop-under mostly belong to a small, yet very

[Ayatana] a radically different solution for updates and reboot requests

2009-06-15 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Paulo J. S. Silva ha scritto: Hi, Sorry for the long message, must I need to set some context before going to the point. I am trying to bring the discussion on update-manger changes, with its new pop-under behavior to this forum as suggested in

Re: [Ayatana] a radically different solution for updates and reboot requests

2009-06-15 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno lun, 15/06/2009 alle 11.09 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia ha scritto: I originarily wanted to add comments to the wiki page, but it is oriented to notifications while this is a specific idea for the notification manager, so I finally deleted it from the wiki and I post it here

Re: [Ayatana] Notifications are annoying when typing in the upper right corner of a window

2009-06-01 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno lun, 01/06/2009 alle 10.30 -0400, Celeste Lyn Paul ha scritto: kwin can also know when a dropdown or context menu is open. i've been looking into the possibility of delaying notifications which occur during these types of interactions for n seconds. several researcher groups

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd feedback

2009-04-27 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno lun, 27/04/2009 alle 15.47 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth ha scritto: Martin Pitt wrote: Hello, just received an interesting comment about notify-osd, and some deficiencies which come up a lot: