Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-07-11 Thread Jan Claeys
Op dinsdag 07-07-2009 om 16:35 uur [tijdzone +0530], schreef mac_v: Labeling the FUSA Presentation state to a Non-critical notifications state with a checkbox is the simplest approach. *We cannot decide every app using full screen* , videos too can/cannot be disturbed by notification ,

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-07-07 Thread Alan Pope
Hi, 2009/7/7 Martín Soto dons...@gmail.com: How many applications are there that are *commonly* used for giving presentations? Five? Ten, maybe? How many web browsers are in main? Given cloud based presentation such as Google Docs, they can all be used to give presentations, and I suspect can

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-07-07 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Martín Soto ha scritto: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Steve Dodier sidnio...@gmail.com mailto:sidnio...@gmail.com wrote: What about console-presenter and evince / other PDF viewers ? They're used too for presentations. I don't think we can maintain an exhaustive list of

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-07-07 Thread Praveen
You are right and hence the only sane way of solving the problem seems to be to give user the control to seta global do-not-disturb mode when he needs it and logging the messages that he misses.This has several advantages such as 1. No need to predict anything as predictions go wrong a lot. 2.

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-07-07 Thread Martín Soto
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Praveen tgpravee...@gmail.com wrote: You are right and hence the only sane way of solving the problem seems to be to give user the control to seta global do-not-disturb mode when he needs it and logging the messages that he misses.This has several advantages

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-07-07 Thread Martín Soto
2009/7/7 Matt Wheeler m...@funkyhat.org 2009/7/7 Martín Soto dons...@gmail.com: Take a look at my last message to this thread: I think it addresses your point much better. In summary, I think we should not pay so much attention to the data source, but to the data destination. If you're

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-07-07 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il 07/07/2009 13:30, Martín Soto ha scritto: I see a big one: you can easily forget activating the do-not-disturb thing, or deactivating it later. For example, unless you're a very experienced speaker, you're likely to be nervous before starting a presentation. This increases the probability

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-07-07 Thread Alex Launi
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:22 PM, mac_v drkv...@yahoo.com wrote: The users cant/shouldnt expect everything to be spoon fed! The Option is there! just because the user forgets ,it isnt a design flaw. A crash is not the error of the car manufacturer but the driver, the manufacturer has provided

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-07-07 Thread Paulo J. S. Silva
Em Ter, 2009-07-07 às 13:49 +0200, Martín Soto escreveu: Also, future versions of X/Gnome wil automatically offer a configuration box as soon as you plug in a monitor. We can consider asking the user once at that point if this is a projector. The UI for doing this would have to be very well

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-07-07 Thread Paulo J. S. Silva
Em Ter, 2009-07-07 às 13:30 +0200, Martín Soto escreveu: I see a big one: you can easily forget activating the do-not-disturb thing, or deactivating it later. For example, unless you're a very experienced speaker, you're likely to be nervous before starting a presentation. This increases

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-07-07 Thread Martín Soto
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:22 PM, mac_v drkv...@yahoo.com wrote: The users cant/shouldnt expect everything to be spoon fed! The Option is there! just because the user forgets ,it isnt a design flaw. I wonder what sort of design philosophy you're advocating here. One where we refrain from

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-07-07 Thread Martín Soto
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Paulo J. S. Silva pjssi...@ime.usp.brwrote: Em Ter, 2009-07-07 às 13:49 +0200, Martín Soto escreveu: Also, future versions of X/Gnome wil automatically offer a configuration box as soon as you plug in a monitor. We can consider asking the user once at that

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-07-07 Thread mac_v
Martín Soto wrote: I will just refrain from falling into the Mark said type of argumentation (see /argumentum ad verecundiam [1]*)*/ I used it since i remember the users name , also.. you can note i used ScottK's name earlier , its not about authority , but just a valid point raised by a

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-07-07 Thread mac_v
Alex Launi wrote: If your car manufacturer provides *brakes*, but puts them somewhere inaccessible, where you can't get to them quickly in an emergency, it's a design flaw. I think the UX team can place the brakes perfectly in the right position ;) cheers, mac_v

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-07-07 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
What about putting up a notification when someone goes into fullscreen mode that notifications are enabled and will be displayed, as a reminder that they might want to disable them? Mark signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-07-07 Thread Praveen
This idea was brought by someone else on this list today and the problem is that a typical user goes fullscreen and back many many times even on a single day especially in and hence each time i watch a movie, or want firefox in fullscreen if i get a notification it is very much annoying. also

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-07-07 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il 07/07/2009 17:40, Mark Shuttleworth ha scritto: What about putting up a notification when someone goes into fullscreen mode that notifications are enabled and will be displayed, as a reminder that they might want to disable them? This was just discussed in another thread, with he

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

2009-06-05 Thread Jan Claeys
Op donderdag 04-06-2009 om 13:39 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef David Siegel: * Firefox + firefox flash videos Not only with flash videos, on my EEE 900 or when I have to use an old PC with a low resolution screen, I use Firefox's full screen mode quite often while browsing. -- Jan Claeys