Hi,
2009/7/7 Martín Soto dons...@gmail.com:
How many applications are there that are *commonly* used for giving
presentations? Five? Ten, maybe?
How many web browsers are in main? Given cloud based presentation such
as Google Docs, they can all be used to give presentations, and I
suspect can
Martín Soto ha scritto:
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Steve Dodier sidnio...@gmail.com
mailto:sidnio...@gmail.com wrote:
What about console-presenter and evince / other PDF viewers ? They're
used too for presentations. I don't think we can maintain an
exhaustive list of
So is it possible to know *before* when a reboot will be required ? Very
likely yes, right ? It only happens when hardware drivers and kernel get
updated ?
The packages list is updated when the computer is turned on, anyway, but
let's assume Mr. User didn't do his updates Monday, then Tuesday he
You are right and hence the only sane way of solving the problem seems to be
to give user the control to seta global do-not-disturb mode when he needs
it and logging the messages that he misses.This has several advantages such
as
1. No need to predict anything as predictions go wrong a lot.
2.
Alex Launi wrote:
Whether or not it asks you, the idea is still flawed. Shutting off your
computer is an, ok- I'm finished activity. It's really not safe to
walk away during an update. David and Ivanka are working Friday evening,
18h roles around and it's more than time to leave. They go to
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:55 PM, mac_v drkv...@yahoo.com wrote:
Why do they have to wait! there is no need , it is just
install+shutdown! User just selected install and shutdown!
We Just Make sure we send proper updates. Also... we can set rules that
if the shutdown stalls for x mins , cause
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Praveen tgpravee...@gmail.com wrote:
You are right and hence the only sane way of solving the problem seems to
be to give user the control to seta global do-not-disturb mode when he
needs it and logging the messages that he misses.This has several
advantages
2009/7/7 Matt Wheeler m...@funkyhat.org
2009/7/7 Martín Soto dons...@gmail.com:
Take a look at my last message to this thread: I think it addresses your
point much better. In summary, I think we should not pay so much
attention
to the data source, but to the data destination. If you're
Alex Launi wrote:
Leaving the computer while it's still working is /very/ likely to cause
a sense of discomfort, and chances are people will stick around and wait
for it to finish.
As you say, chances are i.e user *can wait* but is not forced to,
but for a login update user *has to wait* .
Il 07/07/2009 12:55, mac_v ha scritto:
Why do they have to wait! there is no need , it is just
install+shutdown! User just selected install and shutdown!
I just don't trust the system enough to guarantee it will shut down, and
don't trust an old laptop I use at office enough to be sure that
Il 07/07/2009 13:30, Martín Soto ha scritto:
I see a big one: you can easily forget activating the do-not-disturb
thing, or deactivating it later. For example, unless you're a very
experienced speaker, you're likely to be nervous before starting a
presentation. This increases the probability
Siegfried Gevatter wrote:
2009/7/7 mac_v :
As you say, chances are i.e user *can wait* but is not forced to,
but for a login update user *has to wait* .
Login update is a forced behavior. while the shutdown is the users
option to stick around!
Why is it forced? If I understood the
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:18 PM, mac_v drkv...@yahoo.com wrote:
Well... the user has to update at some point, right.
Even if he chooses to ignore it for now, he has to do it again at some
time. We are forcing him to wait,. He will have to sit idle , waiting
for the system to update.
While
Il 07/07/2009 15:19, Praveen ha scritto:
hmm.. not a bad idea though one must consider that this one initial
notification will be always displayed whenever one goes fullscreen. so
if i watch a lot of movies or am review/editing a presentation i would
be going to fullscreen and back so many many
Isn't this whole discussion of a presentation mode making the issue more
complex than it needs to be?
I would think that taking an application into full-screen allows us to
safely assume the user is making the following statement: this application
is the only thing I'm interested in right now.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:22 PM, mac_v drkv...@yahoo.com wrote:
The users cant/shouldnt expect everything to be spoon fed! The Option is
there! just because the user forgets ,it isnt a design flaw.
A crash is not the error of the car manufacturer but the driver, the
manufacturer has provided
Em Ter, 2009-07-07 às 13:49 +0200, Martín Soto escreveu:
Also, future versions of X/Gnome wil automatically offer a
configuration box as soon as you plug in a monitor. We can consider
asking the user once at that point if this is a projector. The UI for
doing this would have to be very well
Em Ter, 2009-07-07 às 13:30 +0200, Martín Soto escreveu:
I see a big one: you can easily forget activating the do-not-disturb
thing, or deactivating it later. For example, unless you're a very
experienced speaker, you're likely to be nervous before starting a
presentation. This increases
On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:12:24 +0530 mac_v drkv...@yahoo.com wrote:
So is there a way to mark the packages which require reboot , and Not
start them during the boot , but to update them and this would just
*delay the boot by a few seconds during which the present icon is shown*
The current
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:22 PM, mac_v drkv...@yahoo.com wrote:
The users cant/shouldnt expect everything to be spoon fed! The Option is
there! just because the user forgets ,it isnt a design flaw.
I wonder what sort of design philosophy you're advocating here. One where we
refrain from
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Paulo J. S. Silva pjssi...@ime.usp.brwrote:
Em Ter, 2009-07-07 às 13:49 +0200, Martín Soto escreveu:
Also, future versions of X/Gnome wil automatically offer a
configuration box as soon as you plug in a monitor. We can consider
asking the user once at that
Martín Soto wrote:
I will just refrain from falling into the Mark said type of
argumentation (see /argumentum ad verecundiam [1]*)*/
I used it since i remember the users name , also.. you can note i used
ScottK's name earlier , its not about authority , but just a valid point
raised by a
Alex Launi wrote:
If your car
manufacturer provides *brakes*, but puts them somewhere inaccessible,
where you can't get to them quickly in an emergency, it's a design flaw.
I think the UX team can place the brakes perfectly in the right position
;)
cheers,
mac_v
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Sohail Mirza mirzmas...@gmail.com wrote:
First off, netbooks are not a fair use-case for this discussion. The
limitations of the form-factor may require entirely a different solution to
common problems. This much is apparent when comparing Ubuntu Desktop to
Il 07/07/2009 16:39, Sohail Mirza ha scritto:
The limitations of the form-factor may require entirely a different
solution to common problems. This much is apparent when comparing
Ubuntu Desktop to Ubuntu Netbook Remix.
The EEEPC 1000HE has a 10'' screen on which the default gnome desktop is
What about putting up a notification when someone goes into fullscreen
mode that notifications are enabled and will be displayed, as a reminder
that they might want to disable them?
Mark
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Il 07/07/2009 17:34, Sohail Mirza ha scritto:
Weighed against the configuration set and dialogues being proposing, I
still think that full-screen = I'm busy is a reasonable assumption to
make with the vast majority of the user population. I would venture a
guess that most users don't even use,
This idea was brought by someone else on this list today and the problem is
that a typical user goes fullscreen and back many many times even on a
single day especially in and hence each time i watch a movie, or want
firefox in fullscreen if i get a notification it is very much annoying.
also
Il 07/07/2009 17:40, Mark Shuttleworth ha scritto:
What about putting up a notification when someone goes into fullscreen
mode that notifications are enabled and will be displayed, as a reminder
that they might want to disable them?
This was just discussed in another thread, with he
Hello,
I was wondering if bug/wishlist 294523 [1], about the installer (Ubuntu,
Kubuntu possibly others) which
gets stuck at 82% for long periods during installation thereby ruining the
install experience, has been
looked at by anyone for the Karmic release?
I had tried to mark it as a papercut
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