2 Docks:
unity.exemo.net SlideUpDown
unity.exemo.net/4 flipp over
unity.exemo.net/5 different flipp over
what do you say?
David Reichling
2011/3/13 David david.reichl...@googlemail.com:
Hi,
can someone tell me how to make a new thread here?
I tried twice to send an mail to ayatana
types of folders
http://unity.exemo.net/6/
Click on Firefox, Ubuntu One and Nautilus to see it in action
What do you think?
David Reichling
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Hi,
you can forget the ubuntu one logo. It was already in the mockup and i
put the folder somewhere randomly.
of course there would be an other icon.
my idea is more to have a folder where you can put a few shortcuts.
Not something like show ~/Music in the launcher
David Reichling
2011/3/13 M
unnamed doc...
some unnamed doc...
some unnamed doc...
some unnamed doc...
Would it be technically possible to get in that case something like:
some unnamed ... 1
some unnamed ... 2
some unnamed ... 3
some unnamed ... 4
What do you think?
David Reichling
ps: now that natty comes closer i can't wait
Hi,
i did a mockup already some time ago:
http://unity.exemo.net/7/
click on firefox to see how it could look
David Reichling
2011/3/27 Tomasz Janusz tom...@swww.pl:
Yes, i created smillar bug on Launchpad in last week and we can merge it.
And I agree Expo effect is pretty, but not quite
Would it be possible to have:
Power users show mounted icons on launcher
Like the old: gnome show mounted devices on desktop
?
I prefer having neither showing as I usually only access my device once after I
plug it in, and it can appear poorly organised if there are 4+ devices mounted
- Original Message -
From: David da...@kvr.com.au
To: nick rundy nru...@hotmail.com, ayatana@lists.launchpad.net
Sent: Wednesday, 3 August, 2011 3:00:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Comments on the Device User Menu specs
Would it be possible to have:
Power users show mounted icons
I see many criticisms yet a lack of proposals for a suitable replacement.
Without an explaination, people could dismiss that icon thinking I
don't want to buy applications, I'll go to the internet and see where
I can get some free .exes :-p
There was a variation of that issue with the
I like the idea, but wouldn't it mean coding a delay before Unity
actually launches the program? Otherwise, how will it know whether you
want to launch or just move the icon?
I've been thinking of something similar for a while; my idea was to have
launchers that opened more than one program
I don't understand, I thought the way to shutdown/logout etc was by clicking on
the cog in the top right and selecting shut down...?
- ikt
- Original Message -
From: Carl Ansell afccarl1...@hotmail.com
To: ayatana ayatana@lists.launchpad.net
Sent: Tuesday, 11 October, 2011 2:42:15 AM
In my opinion, every icon that has multiple windows should work as a
stack, popping up the most recently used window from that group, one at
a time instead of the whole group.
Something is not right with the unity launcher for sure, multiple windows of
the same application is a massive pita at
:21:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Proposes to change launcher's behaviour with multiple
windows
Den 18. okt. 2011 17:38, skrev David:
In my opinion, every icon that has multiple windows should work as a
stack, popping up the most recently used window from that group, one at
a time instead
I think they need to make unity more themeable so theme's like the one you
propose can be made.
- ikt
- Original Message -
From: frederik nnaji frederik.nn...@gmail.com
To: Matt Richardson m.richardson.1...@hotmail.co.uk
Cc: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net
Sent: Sunday, 30 October, 2011
.
They even show the latest websites you used etc.
What do you think?
I like that idea
David Reichling
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been connected
- people might not know how to connect to the internet
- what are other problems with this?
I am working on a mockup (in form of a webpage) so that you can try it
out and see how it would work/look.
It should be ready in 2 or 3 days.
What do you think?
David Reiching
Hi,
i didn't explained my idea good enough and you and probably others
have understand me wrong.so i try to explain with different words.
the basic idea is that when you turn the computer on it shows the
minimum of indicators thats
possible.http://unity.exemo.net/panel_beginning.png
you can expand
a
menuentry to shut down their pc when clicking at the clock.
But maybe we could put shutdown at the dashs' first page?
Nice day
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about three words before line
wrapping occurs. Making these bubbles slightly wider will
decrease strain on your eyes when reading them, and will allow
you to read short messages more quickly.
I believe David Siegel is a member of this team, correct? David, does
and log in at any point.
David
Alex Launi wrote:
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:51 AM, mac_v drkv...@yahoo.com
mailto:drkv...@yahoo.com wrote:
First of all you painted a story saying:
devs had update ready in the night and the user got the update in the
morning! That is misleading
it and forget it mentality of updates at shutdown is actually
a very advanced user behavior, and does not work well for anyone, even
advanced users, on portable computers.
David
on the use case of a sedentary
desktop.
David
tacone wrote:
People who auto-login or never restart can be handled differently.
Personally, I auto-login, so I would not use this feature, but let's not
think of gurus like us, who participate on Linux mailing lists, and let's
think instead about
I think this is the ideal, but every time I start to bring up implicit updates,
I get smacked :)
David
Wouter Stomp wrote:
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:38 PM, David Siegeldavid.sie...@canonical.com wrote:
Most of us would be perfectly comfortable initiating an update on shutdown,
and walking
feature request in here that you believe would improve usability
in Ubuntu, tag the bug feature-request and we can continue to track
these suggestions.
David
Joseph A. Feinstein wrote:
There are (usability) features that are absent in Ubuntu, but are
present in other operating systems.
I
I've created a project milestone with a more stable set of ten paper
cuts to fix by next Friday:
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+milestone/round-1
David
David Siegel wrote:
We've identified the first ten of one hundred paper cuts* that we plan
to fix for Karmic:
https
://edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+milestone/round-1 for
Friday and we're making great progress!
David
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it,
configure it, and then set the preference to remove it.
On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 10:24 +0100, David Barth wrote:
seems a bit difficult to discover.
I think we need an option in the Preferences to hide the icon.
I disagree with this. I think that it is hard to discover if your
goal
the launcher. If the messaging menu lets you
access a simple blacklist, you can just go there and uncheck Evolution
and be done with it.
David
On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 10:24 +0100, David Barth wrote:
seems a bit difficult to discover.
I think we need an option in the Preferences to hide the icon.
I
On Aug 25, 2009, at 9:14AM , Rick Spencer wrote:
On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 09:06 -0500, David Siegel wrote:
For a concrete example, consider Evolution. To remove the Evolution
launcher from the messaging menu, you'd have to launch Evolution and
set up your email account before you can access
On Aug 25, 2009, at 9:29AM , Rick Spencer wrote:
On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 09:20 -0500, David Siegel wrote:
On Aug 25, 2009, at 9:14AM , Rick Spencer wrote:
On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 09:06 -0500, David Siegel wrote:
For a concrete example, consider Evolution. To remove the Evolution
launcher
been
standardized and approved by both Gnome and KDE, it would make sense for
them to reconsider using that feature by default.
David
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mac_v wrote:
From: David Barth david.ba...@canonical.com
To: Steve Dodier sidnio...@gmail.com
Cc: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net
Sent: Wednesday, 9 September, 2009 1:59:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Notification consistency
Steve Dodier wrote:
+1 too, but it'll require Mozilla to natively
, please
subscribe me to it.
David
This would seem like another great justification for the indicator-applet to
have a preferences dialog. Users will want to configure what shows up and
what doesn't (Just because evolution is installed doesn't mean I want it
there. Likewise, just because I
://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgnome/+bug/407621/comments/17
It would be a bug , i guess.
It would alse be a paper cut :)
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. the menu entry under the cursor) were shown?
David
* https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/403691
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On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 15:37 -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote:
On Jan 12, 2010, at 01:53 PM, David Siegel wrote:
Drawing upon the discussion surrounding the bug Underline under
accelerator characters in buttons and menu bar should only show when Alt
is pressed*, Rich Jones suggested curbing
On 12 March 2010 18:58, Dr. David Alan Gilbert ubu...@treblig.org wrote:
If it was part of the new theme and it was just a matter of going to
appearance and flipping to another theme or customising to the way
you like them then I haven't got a big problem with it
Same here, but that would go
immediately sets in when we have an other
button, but I think we're on to something! Let's continue the discussion and
see if anyone can help us prototype :)
David
2010/3/26 Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com
Hi folks
Got this interesting proposal from Pablo, and thought it should be sent to
the list
and see a nice overlay/silhouette of the
right-maximized state of the window.\
David
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Allan Caeg allanc...@gmail.com wrote:
Cool. That other button can be rendered like a joystick. The idea would
be disorienting to a lot of people haven't read the manual, though
Le vendredi 26 mars 2010 à 06:18 +, Mark Shuttleworth a écrit :
Hi folks
Got this interesting proposal from Pablo, and thought it should be
sent to the list rather than handled in private correspondence. It
reminds me of something David Siegel was sketching out, also inspired
Interesting ideas. Something similar I've seen is in Mac OS X where
document-based application windows have little icon in the window titlebar
that represents the underlying file. You can drag this icon and drop it on
an application icon in the Dock to open that file in another application,
for
this idea in terms of other familiar ideas, we'd basically
show a text entry that turns into a text entry + combo box when you
click it to set your status, and also has auto-completion for standard
status options.
This could be cool! Thoughts?
David
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Frederik
On 22 April 2010 08:49, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote:
The workspaces experience has languished, and I'd
like for us to climb in and improve it substantially. At the moment, we
do a half-hearted job - we ship what's there but as you say, only
configure two workspaces. I'd be
That's interesting.
David
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Guys, this is an excellent discussion. Will someone please volunteer
to organize some of what's been said on a wiki page, or Google
Doc/Wave, or something? Otherwise these ideas will likely never escape
this thread.
David
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:41 AM, Robin Anderson afisy...@gmail.com wrote
in my accessories menu, but
if you've found in there it should be very easy to place it in the
top-level applications menu. It would be a great project to improve
this dialog and merge it with the many different Open With... dialog
implementations to introduce FAYT to users.
David
On Sun, Apr 25
proposing. It will help keep this discussion focused and
minimize entropy.
David
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Frederik Nnaji
frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 16:27, Luke Benstead kaz...@gmail.com wrote:
I like the mockup, but I think something similar to the attached
What does this have to do with the notification area changes? Please
continue this conversation elsewhere if you must. Let's all do our
part to keep Ayatana discussions on track.
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, but there is reluctance to change
the behavior because upstream considers it a feature. They're wrong,
it's broken, let's fix it.
David
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com wrote:
Just because other programs are doing it doesnt make the functionality
correct. Why
an application indicator displaying the most used
files/activities with the one you are currently doing (aka the last
logged zeitgeist event) ?
One click, and you are provided what you probably need, or at least what
you used to need.
David
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I second everything said by Soto. Simplicity is a luxury that
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Rather then adding complexity, windicators
Indicators are icons, different applications have different icons.
http://meson.us/x/gnome/Nautilus.jpg --assume distro polish of course
All the app needs is an minimize icon/close icon. The rest of the
design is up to the app designer, who could
I disagree. I think it will only be good for the user if we have
consistent rules in the windicator area.
Okay, I think I see what your getting at. This is good, and consistent
rules are good at a programing level, however what you see directly
in-front of you is also art, and there are places
imagine being able to open your contact list from the top right
hotcorner, choose a contact and drag the app to the message box. Check
the box that says fuse. This sends an email/im to the user and
Ubuntu's share service now kicks in and syncs the applications like
gwave. This is your share icon
feel free to make up your mind. - my brain is in quantum flux.
rules, like having icons for everything, ex. nautilus
usability, like only having a home button on an iphone.
Sorry for destroying the thread! :D I will try to proceed more quietly.
btw. can't wait for ff4, it couldn't come soon
been working on a few mockups of hotcorner
activated mini-apps that would work very well for simple tasks in place of
evolution or other similarly complex applications.
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:09 PM, David Hamm davidth...@gmail.com wrote:
imagine being able to open your contact list from
Was following you up till this
IMO, we should start by getting rid of the system-wide volume.
read that line again, now consider that all popular os' have this
function. Windows, osx, linux, android, iphone, etc. etc.
Think of how you record volume in a record studio. Do you go around
and
I may have suggested getting rid of the system wide volume in the
past, but only for the reason that most hardware already has a system
wide volume- and for that reason alone. Linux however caters to such a
broad environment it is a necessity to keep this function.
add it http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/24627 :D lot of good ideas
but hard to sort through them all.
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Diego Moya turi...@gmail.com wrote:
I've created a mockup for a simple version of the panel with
per-application settings.
Instead of volume sliders for each
http://design.canonical.com/2010/04/notification-area/
:} I there isn't a Sound Menu UI blueprint yet afaik.
I almost never have to adjust application volumes
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/24627 say yes to the Unicorn!
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The Shut Down (etc.) menu is in the top-right. I understand it was put
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the top-left?
lol, oh how right you are.
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Problem: All your sound are belong to the sound icon.
Redesign is inevitable, we are arguing for the best outcome to solve
this (very general) problem.
Vote: continue this in irc. probably won't happen tho :p
Individual Problems Associated with Sound Menu Redesign:
How will music applications
oops, didn't mean to sent that just yet (alex), sry... but
Basically: Voice chat, and notifications should just work! Incoming
communication.
For these instances background volume is automatically lowered.
For other use cases and fine tuning a easy to get-to mixer solves the job.
In try to get a more accurate look at what the sound menu could be.
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/24744
ps. I'm trying to bend brainstorm to my liking but i'm not sure if
this will work :p
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Really neat stuff. Shame the nested pie menu's aren't being explored,
would be really handy for touch based interfaces. Especially seeing as
people aren't buying netbooks anymore, and rather ipads. Plus it
forces the menu to be simplified. Just like a cd prevents ubuntu from
bloat- to some extent.
Maybe a pin icon at the top of the handle, instead of a checkbox?
I like the checkbox better, it has more of a human feel. I also added
the handle on the opposite side for more balance.
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Anyone else feel like seeing avatar again? In all honesty single
clicking isn't something that should be brushed off.
For the short term I would copy windows7 to the T.
Hovering over and icon selects it.
For the long run I would consider making it default; with touch in mind.
Normally single
Chat windows used to be one click away. This was one of the best
arguments against it until they made the tray.
http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/2009/07/05/getting-the-message/
but you can still use the same argument, in that, gnome shell cannon't
presume to know how all applications will work.
Thanks Tyler!
I like the idea of rapid access to contacts, but how would we handle
an address-book with 2,000 entries?
the same way android does! not readily done in a menu tho :p a filter
could be added as well cus we got a keyboard.
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https://wave.google.com/wave/waveref/googlewave.com/w+FogEP8aTA :p I
really gotta stop sending you personal messages Tyler.
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Maybe this would be better then wave, :p wave is still to young.
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The more options and questions and choices we present to the
user, the less they will want to know about *any* of them.
btw, you have seen the power menu right?
.right, back to single click discussion. I'd say get everyone round
the office to set single click and have a vote after a week. reason
ps. select on hover-over (for devices w/ keyboards) is kinda necessary
if we switch to single click, which i'm all for btw.
the only thing that can enslave a person, is another person.
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As a matter of dignity and manly pride I challenge you, Alex Lourie,
to open nautiluseditpreferencesbehaviorsingle click, for a week.
And after that week, comeback and complain!
btw. the whole freaking internet is single click. psh.
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Alex Lourie djay...@gmail.com
, Send-to, as David Siegel would probably say, please be
unforgiving if am i completely wrong David?! ;)
We mentioned open-with in connection with GNOME Do (ingenious) and FAYT
already...
I'd like me a FAYT Send-to.. dialog in Nautilus' right-click menu. Copy-to
and Move-to don't consistenly offer
with with Compiz Live Preview like popups with
Windicators instead of Window Previews.
Interesting... yes, one could put a rendition of the Windicators on the
windows in the Alt-TAB preview. Cool idea.
David, could you make a note of that, please, in your window management
file?
Windicators would
Nice mockup, Frederik -- keep playing with the idea, I think you could
be on to something.
David
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 4:02 AM, Frederik Nnaji
frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 23:43, Tyler Brainerd tylerbrain...@gmail.com
wrote:
I agree. Both gwibber and evolution
help people
understand how to structure productive conversations on this list?
Just to throw in my $0.02, other words and phrases that should be
discouraged are:
* subjective (this is almost always used incorrectly)
* IMHO (we need less humility, more bravado!)
David
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12
differently so that I don't need a 'bucket'? Challenge
yourself to make a fundamental change to your design so the bucket
isn't needed.
As Mark pointed out, this additional entity is not needed, and the
Launcher should not contain unnecessary parts!
David
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Mark
is clicked, this just means that Close has become another
Minimize button, and the tray has become another window list. Ugly!
David
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 11:34 AM, David Siegel
david.sie...@canonical.com wrote:
We have a great metaphor that's familiar to users and already
implemented: minimized
Also, window positions in the window list are apparently arbitrary and
therefore undependable.
Luke, thank you for the excellent description of your use case.
David
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Luke Benstead kaz...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17 May 2010 11:40, David Siegel david.sie
Fair enough. Alt-tab could still show minimized windows and preserve
MRU ordering, but maybe do so in a way that naturally de-emphasizes
minimized windows so they're easier to ignore?
David
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On 17/05/10 12:16, David
GNOME is currently putting new effort into getting Control Center into
shape, as the Preferences and Administration menus will be deprecated
in GNOME 3. UNE 10.10 will promote Control Center by placing it in the
Launcher.
David
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Shane Fagan
shanepatrickfa
it's unlikely that we will prematurely
jettison the Preferences and Application menus and introduce Ubuntu
users to the soon-to-be-replaced Control Center.
Maybe Matthew Paul Thomas can say more about the new Control Center
and when we can expect it in Ubuntu.
David
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:06 PM
eck redundant wording, let me rephrase.
Wouldn't it be easier to just remove the close button?
ex. file transfer, click the cancel button to close.
imo, minimize to system-tray wouldn't be necessary with an icon dockbar.
Thus returning the close icon to its previous state of actually quiting the
One big thing Evolution has over Thunderbird
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/9656/
Guess there's no big reason to keep evolution anymore :p
and it seems like a great opportunity to rebuild that component in a
more extensible -this is still needed.
the mouse disappears after timeout. no need to move it. Is the video
full screen?-nothing should happen anyway.
If hover is too slow (1 sec delay), you could always click as well.
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Close=quit, some apps could just minimize to tray by default (music
player). The music tray would already provide more function then the
taskbar, no reason to minimize it there.
Rather then making rules, let function define the result.
I'm more interested in how Ubuntu could merge some of those
to keep on topic, dip the bucket in gravy, put it in mash-potatoes,
and eat it. Need there be another icon in the tray let it earn its
keep. Dis be a klean an tight ship. wwld *what would linus do
btw. Automatic Toll Ticketing sucks. yah, pretty lame acronym
seeing as single click is grasping hold, check-box's aren't far off.
Kde's way of having the plus icon would seem to be a good way to do
this, either plus or a checkbox.
This is probably the best way to do it, however I must ask if maybe a
menu option (select files) or a bottom popup of some sort
If someone wants to keep the icon in the launcher, for things like
drag-to, they should be able to minimise it that way. So no, I think
both buttons should stay.
Think of music in the system tray as a fall back. If there's a
dedicated tray icon the controls and such appear there, and not in the
Mouse modes
sounds bad already :p
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Frederik Nnaji
frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 01:38, Joern Konopka cldx3...@googlemail.com wrote:
a) Just wanted to know if i got this right, by Menu Option you mean
something like Edit-Select Files in
Android=Google
instantly forget...impossible...
And android is much better...or maybe you just wanted me to say that...
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+1, unity.
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Frederik Nnaji
frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote:
here the last message on this, the conversation had continued on the
GNOME Shell list:
-- Forwarded message --
From: Kao Chen kaoch...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, May 22, 2010 at 14:20
I think it would break alot of geek's expectations. For basic users
however, its already an improvement.
But then again... I would also vote to make btrfs default for
maverick. I'm reay hoping btrfs can get out on the big stage
before exfat starts becoming default on flash drives.
I've been looking through some of the maemo stuff and it actually
looks pretty sexy. I've never used it in person so I apologize for my
arrogance :p
I'd just prefer android cus its more small screen friendly, although
as cellphones get larger oled screens ( :D )...
anyway whatever :p had to say
don't forget websites.
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Paper cut! I'm pretty sure this is already reported.
Also, this is not a \focus-stealing issue per se, in that it involves
input focus within a single window and not multiple windows contending
for focus.
David
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Tyler Brainerd tylerbrain...@gmail.com wrote:
I
...Pardon my intrusion.
This seems similar to android and linux, they may both want different
things, but they're gonna have to come back together eventually. Would
seem easier to shift the river then build a new one. Gnome imo is
doing more right then wrong.
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