be better discussed on the xdg@ list, though.
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it.
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One of the things we'll consider for 9.04 is giving the bubbles an
appearance that makes it more obvious that you can click through them.
For example, they could look more gaseous or cloudy somehow.
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think this would have prevented the problem you observed.
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Martin Albisetti wrote on 09/12/09 20:34:
On 12/09/2009 04:09 PM, mac_v wrote:
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 18:37 +, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
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https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SessionTerminationConfirmation
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The mockup is a bit of , the question
Manager (which
soon, maybe in Lucid, will use PolicyKit rather than gksudo). I could
just as well put up a gksudo-imitating window saying Sorry, the program
gconfig-spi closed unexpectedly. Enter your password to access the error
report.
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name, the full name, or just an icon in the panel.
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interface should look like.
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difficulty is that his extension assumes that notifications are
interactive, whereas Ubuntu's native notification bubbles are not.
With his permission, I've attached our discussion here.
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them amongst your LoCo team
etc and send me the results, that would be awesome.)
Thanks in advance for your help. In a few days I will follow up with a
summary of everyone's feedback.
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to click on it, and realize that I
didn't need to because the icon was already telling me what I needed to
know.
(Disclaimer: I don't really have a party shirt.)
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-clicking on a status menu to open the menu exactly the same way as
left-clicking does -- just like it does in a standard GTK menu bar already.
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bubbles
arrived at once, the more annoying each of them would be.
2.) A close button on the corner of the bubble as soon as a mouseover
occurs (like Growl, instead of disappearing away)
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Thanks, but we're not particularly interested in that.
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Philipp Wendler wrote on 15/04/10 14:18:
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Am 15/04/10 14:15, schrieb Matthew Paul Thomas:
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But even though (a variation of) that guideline has been around since
Windows 95, it hasn't worked out well. Many users have given up on
left-clicking
tasks are busily
vanishing.
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, and
seeking patches for applications. The more help we can have, the better.
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compromising security. One example is increasing the proportion of
people who download updates in the background and install them at
shutdown. Another is prompting people to install any pending updates at
the same time as they install an application in Ubuntu Software Center.
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don't think it's useful to have a
visual barrier between them. The system ones will be grouped at the end
of the panel, and in a fixed order, and that's probably enough.
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with how heavily Empathy has been patched, but in
general, that's a QA process problem, not an engineering problem. Bug
reports on Ubuntu applications should be reported at
bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu. They should then be reposted upstream *if*
they also exist in the upstream version.
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://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2010-February/msg00036.html
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2009-December/011179.html
There's been some interesting discussion in both places, but people seem
to be waiting for us to demonstrate that it works. So, here we are.
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forward to your feedback on the rest of the specification.
Cheers
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Jan-Christoph Borchardt wrote on 10/05/10 10:51:
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Thanks MPT for this game/task, had real fun doing it.
Thanks Jan-Christoph, that's good feedback. Does anyone else want to
have a go?
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extracting them
should happen automatically after the download. In Safari's Downloads
window, for example, it's shown using the same progress bar.
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Marc Deslauriers wrote on 23/04/10 16:36:
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 16:17 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
On the Canonical Design site, I've just posted about the design of
Ubuntu's battery status menu.
http://design.canonical.com/2010/04
a bug, but could become a
feature.
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into switching. I'm
more interested in how Ubuntu could merge some of those too, than in
reinventing two different ways of minimizing.
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be something
like Lauren inserts a DVD for the first time
http://twitter.com/LaurenVanB/status/13624104456, and the end point
would be the DVD starts playing.
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, and only then can we make sensible
suggestions for how it could be improved.
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a screenshot of, never mind that that thing might have
disappeared in the meantime.
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will
be in the same situation.
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/CompatibilityFixes,
so it can be removed.
And if anyone is willing and able to fix gnome-panel to make long-lived
minimized windows more compact, please submit patches for that too. :-)
Thanks
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other window types is a long-standing design flaw in Gnome.
In 2008 I wrote a specification for Nautilus's progress window.
http://live.gnome.org/Nautilus/ProgressWindow
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of them, which means more and
more ellipsis and less and less actual text.
...
Excellent point. Maybe someone could report a papercut on changing the
ellipsis to a fade-out of the last few pixels, or something like that.
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have now (mostly) finished a
specification for windicators, with a few examples.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana/Windicators
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small bits that can be
implemented independently. https://code.launchpad.net/update-manager
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Shane Fagan wrote on 18/06/10 23:08:
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On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 21:42 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
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I have now completed about half of a specification for software
updates in Ubuntu. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdateHandling
(The main
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Diego Moya wrote on 08/05/10 00:20:
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On 7 May 2010 15:58, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
About the title of the menu, Diego Moya wrote on 04/05/10 20:20:
And one feature I miss is having a volume slider always shown in
This is perhaps one case
.
It's very much a Chrome-specific thing.
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Frederik Nnaji wrote on 30/05/10 15:36:
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On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:31, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com
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So when should the window manager switch from assuming you want a
new window focused, to assuming you don't? After five seconds
after you launched
OpenOffice.org, *then* become unfocused as soon as OO.o became able to
do anything.
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Shane Fagan wrote on 20/06/10 09:47:
On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 03:13 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
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#1 priority: Fix the update settings interface so it matches reality.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdateHandling#settings
This one is easy
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Martin Owens wrote on 21/06/10 11:47:
On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 10:46 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
If you are referring to Ubuntu's notification bubbles, Chrome's
notification API is fundamentally incompatible with Ubuntu
notification bubbles
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Frederik Nnaji wrote on 21/06/10 16:44:
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:00, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com
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Greg K Nicholson wrote on 29/05/10 02:05:
I suggest that if you haven't had time to focus another window (i.e.
if you haven't
applications to update without confirmation?
Yes, we agreed at UDS that we should move towards installing updates
automatically whenever possible. But it's still important to make the
interface for manual updates interface the best we can.
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Scott Kitterman wrote on 22/06/10 11:54:
Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote:
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Yes, we agreed at UDS that we should move towards installing updates
automatically whenever possible. But it's still important to make the
interface
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It might also have separate items for @replies, direct messages, etc.
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Christian Giordano wrote on 11/06/10 15:09:
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com
mailto:m...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On 11/06/10 10:08, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
The ideal screenshot tool would instantly take
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Frederik Nnaji wrote on 16/06/10 23:29:
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 17:04, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com
mailto:m...@canonical.com wrote:
To avoid that kind of confusion, a progress window -- a window that
embodies a task the computer
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Kristoffer Lundén wrote on 21/06/10 21:12:
2010/6/21 Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com
So how do you define started doing something else?
Something else is mouse and/or keyboard activity in an other
application.
So how do you define
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Scott Kitterman wrote on 22/06/10 18:01:
Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote:
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Scott Kitterman wrote on 22/06/10 11:54:
Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote:
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Yes, we agreed at UDS that we should move towards installing
should not
be broken if they did not exist. Let's not bring to the title bar
the same historical abuse of the notification area. :)
...
Good point. I've just added this.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana/Windicators?action=diffrev2=20rev1=19
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Luke Benstead wrote on 17/06/10 20:20:
On 17 June 2010 15:58, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com
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https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana/Windicators
...
So... what's the status for the Gimp and F-spot mockups
, than you were when Ubuntu
knew the update was available but you hadn't installed it yet. Should
the icon be red then too? And if not, why should it be red now?
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Ryan Peters wrote on 06/08/10 17:15:
On 08/06/2010 06:17 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
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What sense does it make to have a menu that's labelled Calculator
when doing a calculation, Banshee when you're playing music, and
Empathy when you're
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Vishnoo wrote on 07/08/10 19:59:
On Sat, 2010-08-07 at 14:46 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas
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In Ubuntu 9.10 and later, the application icon does not appear in the
window title bar, partly for the same reason (it's not relevant to
user goals
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Ryan Peters wrote on 07/08/10 20:12:
On 08/07/2010 08:46 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
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In this scenario someone is using (for example) Calculator, Banshee,
Empathy, Gmail, Amazon, CNN, Farmville, the Gundam AnimeSuki Forum,
and Hulu
, as
long as there are gconf keys for each setting, so that the menu and
window can interoperate.
Thanks
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,
instead of
Mouse Orientation
(*) Right-handed
( ) Left-handed
it could have
Mouse orientation: ( ) Left-handed (*) Right-handed
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be investigating for Natty.
It would be very helpful if people on this list could brainstorm
different ways to present it.
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It does specify the behavior, and it has since March. Each item should
be sensitive only if at least one of the accounts you have set up in
Empathy supports that status, regardless of whether Empathy is currently
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is taking more than a second
or two to display (as we do in Ubuntu Software Center in Maverick, for
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touch screens in mind.
The starting point i feel is: You touch it and it goes away.
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So, how would you avoid touching it by accident just after it appears?
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Diego Moya wrote on 17/09/10 13:59:
On 17 September 2010 14:18, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
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Well, Jef had some odd ideas about user input and focus of attention.
He thought, for example, that error messages should behave rather like
Notify
.
Interesting idea, though it might result in a long queue.
- Even if the bubble is closed, allow the user to reopen it from the Me
menu.
Many if not most notification bubbles have nothing to do with social
networks or instant messaging, so that would be a poor fit.
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frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 29/09/10 08:43:
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On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 15:34, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com
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frederik.nn...@gmail.com mailto:frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on
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With a persistent indicator for activity
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Diego Moya wrote on 21/09/10 16:48:
On 21 September 2010 15:57, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
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For the same reason operating systems don't have visible controls for
configuring the appearance of tooltips. If they're designed right,
they should
to double-click on the shortcut to open it in Firefox, then
close Firefox. Now show them Chromium, and say, If you wanted that
shortcut to open in Chromium whenever you double-clicked on it, what
would you do?
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a lot of sense. Perhaps someone could
sketch what a combined menu might look like?
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I would like to know what the rationale for the current functionality
is.
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There is none.
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Chow Loong Jin wrote on 04/10/10 19:43:
On Monday 04,October,2010 05:57 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
[...]
I would love to see results of this user test: Before the test,
install Ubuntu from scratch, then install Chromium alongside Firefox
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frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 04/10/10 16:40:
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:57, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com
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I would love to see results of this user test: Before the test,
install Ubuntu from scratch, then install Chromium alongside
me as very
important.
...
You were right. We ended up dropping the scrub bar for Maverick.
It may return in future if we can find a more subtle way of presenting
it. Separately, we could let people do basic scrubbing by holding down
the Previous/Next buttons.
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a couple of
years ago) is the excessive modality. There shouldn't need to be a
separate Changing password for dialog, or a separate Restrictions/
Account Information dialog.
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So there's a vague pattern: selecting an informational item should
display more detail about that information. Probably we'll get a clearer
idea about this as we exercise the menus more (e.g. finish
indicator-network).
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for ensuring that anything
else in that corner stays out of the way too.
Making windows easily resizable in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and Ubuntu 10.10
remains a separate problem.
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, if there are multiple
objects in the clipboard.
If there are no objects in the clipboard, the entry is greyed out aka
disabled.
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What problem are you trying to solve here?
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http://design.canonical.com/2010/04/notification-area/ But I don't see
how that has anything to do with either the clipboard or context menus.
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Jan Claeys wrote on 07/10/10 00:50:
Matthew Paul Thomas schreef op di 05-10-2010 om 14:08 [+0100]:
If we discovered that most people expected to find the settings in
individual applications instead, [...]
That might be a learned trick after
://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking
For power, we're currently using a custom status menu inside
gnome-power-manager. It's possible this may migrate to a system status
menu, but it wouldn't matter much if that didn't happen for 11.04.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BatteryStatusMenu
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Scott Ritchie wrote on 15/06/10 04:29:
On 06/14/2010 12:31 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
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You mentioned at UDS that before Wine began inserting notification
area items into the Gnome notification area, it put them in a
separate window. I
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One solution could be merging the two menus, but that could create too
large a menu. A better solution could be to have
. But there are other layout
issues to consider, too.
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the session menu should not be there -- but it should be
somewhere obviously system-ish.
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a clipboard manager.
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, to compare them
before keeping just one, and their icons may look alike. That makes text
labels more useful for them.
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on the live CD would take up space
that could be used by more useful things.
Anyway, issues like that are better discussed on the ubuntu-installer@
mailing list.
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to do with each other.
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in Nautilus for Ubuntu One) that offers the option to add the
songs from File System Queue to the Library could fix this problem.
File System Queue? Criminy.
Five-minute design exercise: Think of five labels for that section which
would be better than File System Queue. Go. :-)
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frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 04/11/10 23:35:
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frederik.nn...@gmail.com mailto:frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on
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To experience the Sound Menu the way it was intended
have a hard
gut feeling chromos is going to destroy both interfaces before they
have a chance to breath. Sorry, just had to say it.
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Do you have any reason to think that's true? How does Chrome OS notify
people of new mail? How does it notify people of new Twitter updates?
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Vishnoo wrote on 17/10/10 11:39:
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Is there a reason Unity's Launcher has tooltips for applications and
places? [While
like that
more obvious.
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, because people
didn't notice the menu. See Design goal 1 in
http://knabedesign.com/articles/applehelp/applehelp.html.
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