2011/5/8 Ed Lin edlin...@gmail.com
I think that's the best implementation of taskbar meats dock offering
all functions of both without sacrificing too much.
But I'm not sure that's what you after. You are asking for a primary
window-centric launcher. That doesn't exist, it's not possible to
Matthew, I love your idea. With little twist:
- unmaximized windows get a menu button that displays (drops down?) the
menu when clicked. This button should be on the opposite side of the
close/maximize/minimize window buttons and should be large enobaleough to
present a viable click target (see
2011/6/21 Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de
Those who have been arguing for minimizing on yet another click on the
launcher will likely not be satisfied with an option.
What do you base this assumption on? Multiple commenters have
stated explicitly that they would be satisfied by such an option.
Desaturate + darken is the way forward. The white overlay is ugly (plus it's
the same effect as stuck applications on Windows) and the blur effect, while
nice, hinders usability.
2011/7/5 Marco Biscaro marcobiscaro2...@gmail.com
Why don't we go with blur instead?
I think that it's because
Hi Eylem,
it would be interesting if you could try a slight variation of the first
mockup: the Ubuntu button at the bottom-left (like it already is) but the
application launchers aligned on top (like they are in the default Unity
layout). Right now, the mockup feels somewhat unbalanced with the
2011/8/22 Owas Lone he...@owaislone.org
Hi Niklas,
You have some valid points here BUT this problem has already been
solved. In fact, it was solved in the first version of Unity. The
solution is autohide. Launcher autohides by default on Ubunut making
it effectively disappear and give all
Hello,
I really like the blur behind the new dash in Oneiric. Will this be enaibled
behind the launcher and the dash decoration (the area around the dash)?
These are not blurred right now and the result looks rather jarring. See for
instance: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/183140/unity.png (it's
2011/8/26 Gord Allott gord.all...@canonical.com
On Fri 26 Aug 2011 08:47:31 BST, Stefanos A. wrote:
Hello,
I really like the blur behind the new dash in Oneiric. Will this be
enaibled behind the launcher and the dash decoration (the area around
the dash)? These are not blurred right
2011/8/27 Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.com
Den 27. aug. 2011 19:10, skrev André Oliva:
From my observations of classmates, fellow students and various other
users, I see roughly 2 categories of users (putting all nuances aside for
the moment):
- Those who do learn a lot by
And in spite of everything else, the close button does not extend all the
way to the top left of the screen. You cannot simply move your mouse to the
top left and click - you have to move the mouse to show the controls, aim,
move some more and finally click. Try doing that on a laptop touchpad and
2011/8/28 Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.com
Den 28. aug. 2011 07:55, skrev huff:
Yes, but from what you're saying I don't think you've tested
it yourself, much less tested it on others. For instance, we've
never before had the buttons in the corner.
I may have missed
2011/8/28 Stefanos A. stapos...@gmail.com
2011/8/28 Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.com
Den 28. aug. 2011 07:55, skrev huff:
Yes, but from what you're saying I don't think you've tested
it yourself, much less tested it on others. For instance, we've
never before had
2011/8/28 Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.com
Den 28. aug. 2011 15:07, skrev André Oliva:
And I also think that Unity shell has to be as simple as possible for the
end user. Unfortunately we can not force to all the users to read a manual
before using an interface, except when
Some food for thought on restored window menus. The Firefox icon is
clickable and displays the menu. The menu is also displayed on the top panel
on mouse over (exactly like global menus function right now). Maximize the
window and the orb disappears.
Essentially, what this does is add a second
2011/8/29 Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com
On 29 August 2011 03:06, Stefanos A. stapos...@gmail.com wrote:
This is Firefox's problem, not ours. The same information is available on
the address bar and the tab text - i.e. Firefox *triplicates* this
information. I don't think Unity should
2011/8/29 Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com
On 29 August 2011 03:06, Stefanos A. stapos...@gmail.com wrote:
2011/8/29 Stefanos A. stapos...@gmail.com
Some food for thought on restored window menus.
Your prototype looks similar to what GNOME Shell is doing. When
clicked, an appmenu
2011/8/29 Eylem Koca eylemk...@gmail.com
I have to say, I _love_ the application button idea on the corner! The
thing is, it should be confined within the titlebar limits. Think
about vertically (or horizontally ) maximizing the window, or just
tiling it to one side of the screen...
Makes
Not only is the text unreadable, but the lenses icons look bad. A soft drop
shadow around every icon and text element would help immensely.
Of course, toning down the transparency, saturation and luminocity would
also solve the issue and look better to boot.
2011/9/4 a.gra...@gmail.com a.gra...@gmail.com
Hi,
On 4 September 2011 14:04, Kévin PEIGNOT winniemie...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't agree. PPA should be used only to install unstable / unsupported
features. I think the problem is that a lot of very good programs aren't
in
the default
://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/835977 but is a design
issue rather than a bug, so I raise this here for commenting.
What do you think? Does anyone know how this could be fixed?
Thanks,
- Stefanos
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2011/9/6 Eylem Koca eylemk...@gmail.com
Thank you for your comments! I too hope the design team will consider
this for 12.04, even if it's not accepted as it is...
@Stefanos
I know what you're saying about the maximized-window control buttons,
and the problem is partly because they're
Every desktop environment has its own set HIG. Unity is sufficiently
different than Gnome Shell or KDE4 that it merits some form of guidelines,
even if they are as simple as must work with the global menu, must offer a
tailored launcher menu and must follow global font settings. Most of these
will
2011/9/12 Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.com
I've started using Thunderbird with Lightning for my appointments and
tasks lately. It seems quite nice so far. I would probably like it even
better if they could have their own windows, but that's another issue.
(I really do like it
2011/9/12 Kévin PEIGNOT winniemie...@gmail.com
For battery low, icon become red i remenber (it did few times ago). It's
red when it's urgent, blue for notifications.
I think it's a sort of must be the blue icon for calendars ;). Maybe for
12.04 since Thunderbird+Lightning is just new in
2011/9/22 Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.com
Den 22. sep. 2011 20:40, skrev Alex Launi:
Can someone explain why we think we want the ability to run rm directly
from unity anyway? Is there a single person who wants this functionality who
doesn't have a terminal open all of the
2011/9/26 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen mikkel.kamst...@canonical.com
On 09/22/2011 08:46 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
Den 22. sep. 2011 20:40, skrev Alex Launi:
Can someone explain why we think we want the ability to run rm directly
from unity anyway? Is there a single person who wants this
to the free text
I have not proposed anything like that. That was someone else ...
Yeah, I mixed up the replies, sorry :) It was Stefanos, who proposed
it.
Indeed. Please note that I proposed a toggle button, not a command prefix.
Huge difference.
and I
completely disagree with it. I don't
2011/9/27 James Jenner james.g.jen...@gmail.com
Not a big fan of using something like ~ or $ or # in a lens either.
That was my suggestion but it appears it keeps getting misunderstood. You'd
*never* have to type such strange symbols in the dash. That's insane.
What I suggested is adding a
2011/9/27 David tenniswithshov...@gmail.com
I like the idea, but wouldn't it mean coding a delay before Unity actually
launches the program? Otherwise, how will it know whether you want to
launch or just move the icon?
That is a very good question. Would the reuse Super+# indeed add a
2011/9/27 matt m.richardson.1...@hotmail.co.uk
I have already submitted a bug for the fact that the last active window
is not necessarily the one which receives focus when switching between
applications with multiple windows.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/854643
I agree that
2011/9/27 Ian Santopietro isan...@gmail.com
Adding a 5th stop just makes it harder to get to it. The point of having
the separate dashes, as I see it, is to provide very quick access to both
pieces of very important functionality.
Alt-F2 will still be available. I suggested the *addition* of
And a different viewpoint: Win7 doesn't distinguish between 'execute
command', 'launch application', 'search applications' and 'search files' in
its Dash equivalent. Instead, it works through the list in that order: if
the text entered matches a command, then it's treated as a command (e.g.
ping
2011/9/28 Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.com
Den 27. sep. 2011 16:39, skrev David:
I like the idea, but wouldn't it mean coding a delay before Unity actually
launches the program? Otherwise, how will it know whether you want to
launch or just move the icon?
No, it
2011/9/28 Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.com
Den 28. sep. 2011 11:24, skrev Stefanos A.:
Change the key press to key release would indeed introduce an unacceptable
delay. I have already filed bugs on Unity for things that are activated on
release rather than press, like
2011/9/28 Ian Santopietro isan...@gmail.com
But Alt-F1 triggers keyboard navigation of the launcher, not the dash. You
can switch directlyfrom there to either dash or the Run dialog without any
other action. To open the dash, briefly press and release Super, which is a
very different shortcut
2011/9/28 Ian Santopietro isan...@gmail.com
It is simple, but it isn't intuitive.
Pressing enter (in combination with any other key) indicates that you want
to do an action with the item selected on the screen. We don't want the dash
to search commands, as this is not end-user friendly. A
2011/10/7 Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.com
On 7 October 2011 14:25, nick rundy nru...@hotmail.com wrote:
to 11.04), I have always HATED how hard it is to resize windows in
ubuntu.
So I turned to the grabber because it was the only way to reliably get a
It's really easy
2011/10/13 anthropornis anthropor...@gmail.com
Incidentally, I just upgraded to Oneiric today (and I do mean upgrade, not
a fresh install), and perhaps I am doing something wrong, but I do *not*see a
restart option in the power cog menu (nor do I see gnome-terminal in
my Dash, but that's a
2011/10/13 Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com
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Stefanos A. wrote on 13/10/11 15:09:
I just installed 11.10, just to be assaulted by ugly non-resizable
windows. Why, oh why?
Off-hand, I recall the official installer, which cannot
*Some* windows are ok to resize, because for those windows, the
probability that people would resize them deliberately
multiplied by the benefit from doing so is greater than the
probability that people would resize them accidentally
multiplied by the pain from doing so.
I disagree with the
2011/10/16 nick rundy nru...@hotmail.com
I've had the opposite experience with Windows. I find the Windows font
painfully small and scanty.
It's always refreshing to get to use Ubuntu with ubuntu-font because I feel
like the font size and everything is sized just right. One of the things I
2011/10/16 Christian Rupp christ...@r-k-r.de
But power users just head to the software center and install gnome tweak
tool - nothing big
Nice would be a simple tweak tool which provides things like font and -
size or opacity
Absolutely agreed. The two most common support requests I get for
2011/10/18 frederik.nn...@gmail.com frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 16:13, Christian Rupp christ...@r-k-r.de wrote:
But I still don't like the idea behind, melting dash and Commands. I think
keep on using [alt]+[f2] is a better choice. Anything else would confuse the
normal
For what it's worth, I've pretty much stopped using menus since I started
using 11.04. There are times when I forget menus even exist and stand there
wondering how to perform some action - especially in applications I am not
familiar with. Other applications with complex menus, such as gimp, have
2011/10/19 David da...@kvr.com.au
The problem I want to fix is that the launcher handles multiple windows of
the same program extremely poorly.
Open 2 terminal windows, then open a window on top of both of them, so both
windows are hidden (eg a typical multi-tasking environment), try opening
Two other potential solutions:
1. A visual proximity indicator to the hidden launcher, for instance as a
very soft glow that becomes more visible as the mouse moves towards the
left side (similar to KDE 4.x when its taskbar is set to autohide).
- or -
2. Make the left-most column a clickable
2011/11/4 Mark Curtis merkin...@hotmail.com
That would only work for Firefox, not all programs that have buttons on
the left hand side.
Do you have a specific application in mind? I can't recall any application
with buttons that touch the left side of the screen (please note that if
the
2011/11/18 Christian Giordano christian.giord...@canonical.com
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas
m...@canonical.comwrote:
Why? Why are they designed for a specific size, when that's
against the Gnome HIG?
That isn't true either. The HIG says that toolboxes should be
2011/11/19 Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de
On 11/18/2011 11:03 AM, Stefanos A. wrote:
To my non-expert mind, not only do the guidelines contradict themselves
(fixed size 675x530 in order to fit on netbooks, but netbooks have only
490px available), but they also add invalid constraints
2011/11/19 staticd staticd.growthecomm...@gmail.com
Another problem that is brought about by non resizable windows is dealing
with error messages: they get truncated and cant be read.(e.g. software
center error messages)
And that's the worst issue of all. It's windows-ism at its worst: fixed
2012/1/29 Chow Loong Jin hyper...@ubuntu.com
On 29/01/2012 23:53, supernova wrote:
maybe it is because I have intel graphics, but I find gnomeshell
faster then unity, at first and clean installation I mean. Let's hope
better for the future...
I have two laptops, one of which runs on the
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