I see no good reason to merge the drafts: all current extensions are
logically independant, at least at the protocol level.
I agree. All the more so since the three extension drafts have different
authors and are therefore written in very different styles, and it would
therefore be a lot of
01.07.2014, 17:22, Juliusz Chroboczek j...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr:
Dear all,
In order to get the extension protocol published, I need to define
a policy for allocating TLV numbers. The reviewer has suggested
First-Come-First-Served with public reference, but is also willing to
accept
Specification Required today seems most workable for everybody in
foreseeable future, I finally understood it includes Designated Expert,
which I suggested in the past.
Sorry for not following up at that time, Denis, but we've got different
timings -- there's very little energy I can devote to
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Juliusz Chroboczek
j...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr wrote:
I'm open to discussion, but I'm planning
0-127: Specification Required
128-144: Experimental Use
145-254: Specification Required
255: Reserved
What do you think about moving Experimental Use
Henning Rogge hro...@gmail.com wrote:
The best would be to get the RX power right from the radio. Does babel
currently get any info that way?
No. Contrary to pretty much everyone's intuition, RSSI is not a good
predictor of packet loss.
Yes...
RSSI is a good
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On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 09:54:55AM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote:
BabelWeb seems to be node.js... is that gonna fit on an NetGear3800?
No. The usual approach is to have a ssh tunnel from your computer
running node.js to your router (or to have a netcat forwarding). You can
also just run
I'm open to discussion, but I'm planning
0-127: Specification Required
128-144: Experimental Use
145-254: Specification Required
255: Reserved
The idea about the Experimental range is that it should be easy to decode
by sight in a hexdump. Hence the choice of values.
It would also be
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 4:57 AM, Juliusz Chroboczek
j...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr wrote:
I see no good reason to merge the drafts: all current extensions are
logically independant, at least at the protocol level.
I agree. All the more so since the three extension drafts have different
Regarding Z3 and RTT, you're right, it's not exactly clear. The current
implementation of Z3 applies the diversity factor *after* all other costs
are computed, included the one induced by babel-rtt.
Huh? RTT and Z3 work at completely different places -- RTT tweaks the
cost computation,
CeroWrt runs babel on ad-hoc, ethernet, and ap-mode connections
all at the same time by default.
We name interfaces a bit weirdly to make for easier iptables rules:
Ethernet is ge00 and se00 (wan, and lan in openwrt parlance), ap-mode
is usually on gw00, gw10, sw00, and sw10,
and ad-hoc is gw01
Anyway... in ethernet, adhoc or station mode, babel figures out the
channel number of the interface ok, but on the ap-mode (master) mode,
it logs stuff like this at startup and periodically thereafter.
It's the kernel answering EINVAL to SIOCGIWFREQ. Is there a different API
that would work
I was fiddling with filtering out cero's /27s with the method
described in the previous thread, using the blackhole route to the
covering /24 and
redistribute ip 0.0.0.0/0 le 24 allow
in the conf file
and a command line of babeld -D -z3 -c /etc/babeld.conf ge00 se00 gw00
gw01 gw11 sw00 sw10
I was kind of hoping to be rid of most of P2P announcements also...
What do you mean by P2P? Everything's P2P in Babel. (We don't do
centralised protocols here at Babel Towers.)
If you mean the host routes (/32 and /128), you can say
redistribute local deny
to get rid of them. (You could
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 06:58:59PM +0200, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
including the files generated by UCI, if any.
UCI does not generate any file, it builds a huge command-line (and yes,
this is a bug: https://github.com/openwrt-routing/packages/issues/33).
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On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Juliusz Chroboczek
j...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr wrote:
I was kind of hoping to be rid of most of P2P announcements also...
What do you mean by P2P? Everything's P2P in Babel. (We don't do
centralised protocols here at Babel Towers.)
If you mean the host
Could you please send the full configuration? I.e. babeld's command line
in full, together with any files mentioned on the command line, including
the files generated by UCI, if any.
The simplest thing from my perspective...
Please send me the command-line that caused Babel to run amock.
The simplest thing from my perspective...
Please send me the command-line that caused Babel to run amock.
Sorry if that sounded dry, Dave. I do appreciate your help with that.
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On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Juliusz Chroboczek
j...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr wrote:
Could you please send the full configuration? I.e. babeld's command line
in full, together with any files mentioned on the command line, including
the files generated by UCI, if any.
The simplest thing
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Juliusz Chroboczek
j...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr wrote:
The simplest thing from my perspective...
Please send me the command-line that caused Babel to run amock.
Sorry if that sounded dry, Dave. I do appreciate your help with that.
np! I have implemented
Nothing wrong with your config, Dave. I'd need a -d3 log of when Babel
gets into the feedback loop.
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My assumption is that I will blow up a goodly portion of my network,
but that the damage will be constrained to immediate hops only. ?
And: I should also get a tcpdump of what happens.
I am running a test series at the moment; I can do it after lunch
(T+1.5 hours). I'll need some popcorn for the
Gabriel Kerneis gabr...@kerneis.info wrote:
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 09:54:55AM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote:
BabelWeb seems to be node.js... is that gonna fit on an NetGear3800?
No. The usual approach is to have a ssh tunnel from your computer
running node.js to your
The computer you see my son operating is actually an Android tablet; maybe
can run node.js. Maybe not, I will try. It has a debian chroot, 4 CPUs and
1GB ram...
jch@ariane:~$ ps l $(pidof babelweb)
F UID PID PPID PRI NIVSZ RSS WCHAN STAT TTYTIME COMMAND
0 0 27658
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 11:14:51AM -0700, Dave Taht wrote:
attached is the command line generated and the babeld.conf
/usr/sbin/babeld -D -I /var/run/babeld.pid -z 0,128 -c /etc/babeld.conf -L
/tmp/babeld.log -C 'interface ge00' -C 'interface se00' -C 'interface sw00'
-C 'interface sw10'
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