Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-29 Thread Dave Crossland
2009/3/18 John O'Donovan john.odono...@bbc.co.uk: A blog reader does not replace all the things people buy a newspaper for in my criteria. If it did, Newspapers would be dead already, This strikes me as fallicious. Just because it hasn't collapsed yet doesn't mean that it won't peter out.

[backstage] BBC WorldSerice Radio schedules disappeared

2009-03-29 Thread Paul Webster
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RE: [backstage] BBC On Demand - XML feed dried up again

2009-03-29 Thread Paul Webster
This problem remains. i.e. no updates since TUESDAY. Happened also around 18th March. Becuase the XML file contains some information about future programmes. it is not always obvious to an end-user that something has gone wrong until some days later (which is good). How about BBC putting some

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-29 Thread James Ockenden
I think this is a false dilemma. Guys in my office have phones with 8MP cameras. My 18-month old phone has a 5MP camera. I suspect a good lens and skill with photoshop is vastly more important than the photographer being professional. Sure, some kid with a 10MP phone can take a 300dpi

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-29 Thread Dave Crossland
2009/3/29 James Ockenden james.ocken...@gmail.com: I think this is a false dilemma. Guys in my office have phones with 8MP cameras. My 18-month old phone has a 5MP camera. I suspect a good lens and skill with photoshop is vastly more important than the photographer being professional. Sure,

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-29 Thread Richard Lockwood
As ever, the answer, and the future lies somewhere inbetween. While 'bloggers can, and do pass opinion, and produce stories based on primary news stories, they don't have the resources to become those primary news sources. The BBC, The Times, Reuters etc do have the resources. There have been a

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-29 Thread Rob Myers
Dave Crossland wrote: 2009/3/29 James Ockenden james.ocken...@gmail.com: I think this is a false dilemma. Guys in my office have phones with 8MP cameras. My 18-month old phone has a 5MP camera. I suspect a good lens and skill with photoshop is vastly more important than the photographer being

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-29 Thread Dave Crossland
2009/3/29 Richard Lockwood richard.lockw...@gmail.com: Dave C will have you believe that a 'blogger is more trustworthy because he's free - but he's unaccountable to anyone. That's not what I am saying. I don't say that any random blogger is more trustworthy than a random journalist. I say

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-29 Thread Fearghas McKay
On 29 Mar 2009, at 19:48, Dave Crossland wrote: Photography did in portrait painters. Same story, different century. It did ? There really are no portrait painters left? I think the effect of photography was that portraiture as a market increased, the affluent could still ( and did ) get

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-29 Thread Rob Myers
Fearghas McKay wrote: On 29 Mar 2009, at 19:48, Dave Crossland wrote: Photography did in portrait painters. Same story, different century. It did ? There really are no portrait painters left? I think the effect of photography was that portraiture as a market increased, the affluent

RE: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-29 Thread John O'Donovan
Hi Phil - yes I think we are heading into that middle ground. On pictures I agree of course that consumer technology is making the equipment better and more accessible, but I would say this has been happening for years and so maybe you underestimate the value of the professional photographer

Re: [backstage] Clay Shirky: Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable

2009-03-29 Thread Phil Wilson
On pictures I agree of course that consumer technology is making the equipment better and more accessible, but I would say this has been happening for years and so maybe you underestimate the value of the professional photographer or photo journalist. Most of us can't take photos as well as a