RE: Take Scag: [backstage] Witty slogan and design for Backstage T-shirts

2006-11-01 Thread Kim Plowright
Backstage: You're not on the list, you're not coming in :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jakob Fix Sent: Tue 31/10/2006 15:21 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: Take Scag: [backstage] Witty slogan and design for Backstage T-shirts On 10/31/06, James

Re: Take Scag: [backstage] Witty slogan and design for Backstage T-shirts

2006-11-01 Thread Mario Menti
On 10/31/06, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like this idea a lot!I can imagine we could run the mail archives through a tag cloud maker and generate pretty much everything we need. How cool would it be if peoples names came up? :) If you want to see what the current tag cloud may look

RE: [backstage] Wikipedia Latt/Longs

2006-11-01 Thread Ian Forrester
Wow that's a awesome find! Good stuff, but I would have thought the KML file would be easier to work on because its simply XML right? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason CartwrightSent: 31 October 2006 15:20To:

RE: [backstage] Wikipedia Latt/Longs

2006-11-01 Thread Jason Cartwright
So it is... a KMZ is a zipped KML, which is a whole hunk of loverly parsable XML (in this case 32mb of it). I didn't know that. Nice. J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian ForresterSent: 01 November 2006 10:34To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.ukSubject: RE:

RE: Take Scag: [backstage] Witty slogan and design for Backstage T-shirts

2006-11-01 Thread Ian Forrester
That is awesome :) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario MentiSent: 01 November 2006 10:35To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.ukSubject: Re: Take Scag: [backstage] Witty slogan and design for Backstage T-shirts On 10/31/06, Ian Forrester [EMAIL

Re: Take Scag: [backstage] Witty slogan and design for Backstage T-shirts

2006-11-01 Thread Paul Makepeace
On 10/31/06, James Boardwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: playing on the whole theatrical metaphor: ...command line not chorus line enter backstage alt *left* ... an open deleteair/delete source production Not to be a party-pooper but one thing that characterised my initial impression of

[backstage] 2 hours till the deadline of the widget competition

2006-11-01 Thread Ian Forrester
Just a final warning if you want to enter your widgets. Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive:

Re: Take Scag: [backstage] Witty slogan and design for Backstage T-shirts (buffy buffy buffy)

2006-11-01 Thread Nic James Ferrier
Mario Menti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 10/31/06, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like this idea a lot! I can imagine we could run the mail archives through a tag cloud maker and generate pretty much everything we need. How cool would it be if peoples names came up? :) If you

RE: Take Scag: [backstage] Witty slogan and design for Backstage T-shirts

2006-11-01 Thread Ian Forrester
Not to be a party-pooper but one thing that characterised my initial impression of backstage was disappointment at the number of things people were doing that were NOT open source, especially from some of the more prolific authors here. I think there is certainly something very different

Re: [backstage] 2 hours till the deadline of the widget competition

2006-11-01 Thread Premasagar Rose
Hi, I posted a comment to the widgets competition blog post a number of days ago, but the comment was never approved and I never heard any response. Basically, I was asking for clarification on the competition rules - whether a 'widget' should be something that lives on a desktop (as

RE: [backstage] Wikipedia Latt/Longs

2006-11-01 Thread Brian Butterworth
It's not just lat and longs, but you can use the height above sea-leveltoo: Freeview transmitters: http://www.ukfree.tv/kmls.php UK analogue shutdown/digital switchover tour: http://www.ukfree.tv/kmla.php Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Take Scag: [backstage] Witty slogan and design for Backstage T-shirts

2006-11-01 Thread Nic James Ferrier
Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think there is certainly something very different about the backstage development community compared to other developer networks. Not a lot of code does get shared, yes I agree. But I don't believe the reason is because people don't care. Maybe the

RE: Take Scag: [backstage] Witty slogan and design for Backstage T-shirts

2006-11-01 Thread Ian Forrester
Well there you go then :) Good stuff! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Bowden Sent: 01 November 2006 12:50 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: Take Scag: [backstage] Witty slogan and design for Backstage T-shirts Ian you

RE: Take Scag: [backstage] Witty slogan and design for Backstage T-shirts

2006-11-01 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Actually that's a really good point... I wonder if there's anything we can do to make that better? What if we could provide some sort of code repository / version control software for the backstage project that would help people share? M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [backstage] 2 hours till the deadline of the widget competition

2006-11-01 Thread Ian Forrester
Hi, I posted a comment to the widgets competition blog post a number of days ago, but the comment was never approved and I never heard any response. --- Yep we've been having problems with the blog comments, sorry. I always suggest the list over comments for now. We do moderate the comments

Re: [backstage] 2 hours till the deadline of the widget competition

2006-11-01 Thread Premasagar Rose
Thanks for your response, Ian. I'll post the widget if I do create it... I look forward to seeing the results of the competition. Regards, Premasagar. - Original Message - From: Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 12:56

RE: Take Scag: [backstage] Witty slogan and design for Backstage T-shirts

2006-11-01 Thread Jason Cartwright
Like Google's free SVN hosting offering... http://code.google.com/hosting/ J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Cashmore Sent: 01 November 2006 13:09 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: Take Scag: [backstage] Witty slogan and

Re: Take Scag: [backstage] Witty slogan and design for Backstage T-shirts

2006-11-01 Thread Paul Makepeace
On 11/1/06, Nic James Ferrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think there is certainly something very different about the backstage development community compared to other developer networks. Not a lot of code does get shared, yes I agree. But I don't

Re: [backstage] BBC Backstage London Christmas Bash

2006-11-01 Thread Robert Kerry
Hi Ian, Thanks for your reply and sorry for the delay in getting back to you. We would love to have LondonSEO associated with the Christmas event and more then happy to help the organisers in anyway possible. LondonSEO events usually have a sponsor who picks up the bar tab, although I'm not

RE: Take Scag: [backstage] Witty slogan and design for Backstage T-shirts

2006-11-01 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Very very very cool... and not just because my name is on there! :-) Ian's use of theword awesome however is a little suspect... especially when you see this http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattcashmore/282153124/ He's currently suggesting we somehow get his new scooter into the shirt

Re: Take Scag: [backstage] Witty slogan and design for Backstage T-shirts

2006-11-01 Thread Mario Menti
On 11/1/06, Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's an implementation of the subject line tag cloud which otherpeople are welcome to copy, mash-up, hack, use on their own mailinglists, etc. http://paulm.com/inchoate/2006/11/backstage_get_with_the_program.htmlWhat do you do when you want to

Re: [backstage] BBC Touch

2006-11-01 Thread Matthew Somerville
Chris Riley wrote, reordered slightly: In particular I think its useful for highlighting issues the public care more about. For instance a couple of says ago whilst Pakistan was the headline, most of us were reading the climate change story. Are you sure Pakistan was the headline? The climate

Re: Take Scag: [backstage] Witty slogan and design for Backstage T-shirts

2006-11-01 Thread Richard P Edwards
Mario rocks.I can't see a place for that scooter on the road, let alone on a t-shirt. sorry Ian. :-)RichE.On 1 Nov 2006, at 11:39, Matthew Cashmore wrote: Very very very cool... and not just because my name is on there! :-)   Ian's use of the word awesome however is a little suspect...

[backstage] Re: Sharing Code

2006-11-01 Thread Jonathan Chetwynd
Surely, it's more political or philosophical than merely sharing php code.. the fact is that after ten years or more there's still not a single successful web authoring application that's publishes accessible validated code and is used by the public. (in part which explains the rise of

Re: Take Scag: [backstage] Witty slogan and design for Backstage T-shirts

2006-11-01 Thread Nic James Ferrier
Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 11/1/06, Nic James Ferrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Standing on the fringes and contributing a little from time to time I can say that there is not a code sharing atmosphere here. I wonder if that is due to the tone set by BBC which is about

Re: [backstage] Wikipedia Latt/Longs

2006-11-01 Thread Mikel Maron
GeoRSS might be an even better format to work with, since it's can refer to each Wikipedia article in a well defined chunk (an RSS item or Atom entry)Placeopedia, a similar effort from mySociety, offers GeoRSS [http://www.placeopedia.com/data/]It's also should be noted that the copyright status of

[backstage] Weather conditions?

2006-11-01 Thread John Wards
Right best make clear what I mean by weather conditions. From a weather feed description for example from: http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/4376.xml You get: The forecast for Hartlepool, United Kingdom on Wednesday: sunny intervals. Max Temp: 8°C (46°F), Min Temp: -2°C

RE: [backstage] Re: Sharing Code

2006-11-01 Thread Jason Cartwright
the fact is that after ten years or more there's still not a single successful web authoring application that's publishes accessible validated code I'm not sure that this is fault of the application - all your major desktop apps, as well as most (mainly open source) CMSes will happily produce

Re: [backstage] Re: Sharing Code

2006-11-01 Thread Jonathan Chetwynd
Jason, which web2.0 apis are you proposing that produce accessible or even validating code? cheers Jonathan Chetwynd On 1 Nov 2006, at 16:29, Jason Cartwright wrote: the fact is that after ten years or more there's still not a single successful web authoring application that's

[backstage] PHP Code for weather conditions

2006-11-01 Thread John Wards
Right heres a little snippet of code to play with the description from the weather feeds. $description = The forecast for Hartlepool, United Kingdom on Wednesday: sunny intervals. Max Temp: 8°C (46°F), Min Temp: -2°C (28°F), Wind Direction: NW, Wind Speed: 17mph, Visibility: good,

Re: [backstage] BBC Touch

2006-11-01 Thread Chris Riley
Hi Matthew,Thanks for your feedback. On the Pakistan thing, I'm not sure, it was just when I glanced at it when writing the mail that stuck in my mind. So you're probably right :o)On your second point about the editorial, completely agree that they shouldn't be ordering stories by popularity (I

Re: [backstage] Re: Sharing Code

2006-11-01 Thread Mark Birbeck
Jason, [Apologies if this is duplicated, but GMail is not indicating clearly whether this is making it to the list or not. :( ] I disagree. Web 2.0, and whatever people's interpretations of this flimsy collection of technologies and concepts is, in my view invariably shows a shift to

Re: [backstage] PHP Code for weather conditions

2006-11-01 Thread Matthew Somerville
John Wards wrote: preg_match(|(The forecast for (.*), (.*) on .*): (.*)\. (.*)|,$description,$match); I'd make the .*s .*?s (or add a U), just in case it ever had a new entry added along the lines of Last checked by: Mr. Jones preg_match_all(| (.*):

RE: [backstage] Weather conditions?

2006-11-01 Thread Kathryn Schmitt
Hi John, The complete list of weather conditions that appear on the BBC Weather site is as follows: [desc] 'clear' 'sunny' 'partly cloudy' 'sunny intervals' 'dust storm' 'misty' 'foggy' 'cloudy' 'light showers' 'drizzle' 'light rain' 'heavy

[backstage] checks balances: validating the BBC

2006-11-01 Thread Jonathan Chetwynd
checks balances: validating the BBC http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://news.bbc.co.uk 97 errors which is about par makes it difficult to consider or discuss the accessibility of BBC web1.0 product. suffice it to say they have a process all there own, which awaits an independent

Re: [backstage] PHP Code for weather conditions

2006-11-01 Thread John Wards
Quoting Matthew Somerville [EMAIL PROTECTED]: preg_match_all(| (.*): (.*),|U,$match[5].,,$matches,PREG_SET_ORDER); This doesn't catch Sunset, due to you forcing that comma. Try: '| (.*): (.*)(,|\.|$)|U' (I can't remember if I put the full stop in there just in case, or if I had an

Re: [backstage] BBC Touch

2006-11-01 Thread Tom Loosemore
personally, I think it's a fabulous experiment in data. from a news angle? vast amounts of news consumption is people who don't click a link or read a single story - they go to the homepage to check if anything 'important' has happened (usually not). That's editorship, which is different from

Re: [backstage] PHP Code for weather conditions

2006-11-01 Thread Matthew Somerville
John Wards wrote: Ah it does though as I add a , to the end of the subject which catches the sunset. Duh, of course, sorry. Hopefully my other suggestion still stands. :) -- ATB, Matthew | http://www.dracos.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please

Re: [backstage] PHP Code for weather conditions

2006-11-01 Thread Andrew Disley
On 1 Nov 2006, at 20:35, Laurence Samuels wrote: This sharing of code is all well and good. I support it. But sending codes along on this email address may obscure some other messages that are not about code. Isnt it possible to have a central place where codes could be put and a forum

Re: Take Scag: [backstage] Witty slogan and design for Backstage T-shirts

2006-11-01 Thread Mr I Forrester
Nic James Ferrier wrote: I don't do the second part (generating the tag cloud) but there are lots of options: - do it in xslt: http://cse-mjmcl.cse.bris.ac.uk/blog/2006/08/08/1155058345613.html - spit out to some unix pipeline that gens tagclouds (perl?) - spit out to curl and have curl